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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:06:55 PM EDT
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Jeez, talk about a waste of money. I'm not trying to rag on you but what you're going to have at the end of the build is NO WHERE near what you should have for what you spent. I'd return everything and start over. whatever hit you take on restocking fee's will be nothing compared to the overpriced/hodge podge you will be left with. I mean seriously, Strike Industries and "No budget" should never be in the same sentence...
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:10:30 PM EDT
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Jeez, talk about a waste of money. I'm not trying to rag on you but what you're going to have at the end of the build is NO WHERE near what you should have for what you spent. I'd return everything and start over. whatever hit you take on restocking fee's will be nothing compared to the overpriced/hodge podge you will be left with. I mean seriously, Strike Industries and "No budget" should never be in the same sentence... |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:12:16 PM EDT
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Listen to the people man. I almost made your mistake. Don't waste $3000 on an AR. You can get much cooler stuff for cheaper.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:12:53 PM EDT
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If you want to stay local, more Granite Ridge less Shooters Outpost. They are great for looking but not a fan of their prices or ID for a mag thing. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:13:23 PM EDT
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I dont get it, I heard good things about Strike industries stuff? can't make this shit up 
You really should have just picked up a Colt 6920 OEM for like $700 and built everything off that; or went with an Aero M4E1 Upper/lower set and built off that if you wanted teh cuztom. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:13:54 PM EDT
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For me at least, it's not that his rifle's expensive - like I said, my SBR will be past his budget by the time it's done. It's that he's dropping all this on his first AR. As I'm sure most of us are well aware, your first AR rarely ever stays how you build it, because the more you work with and shoot the thing you'll learn more precisely what you like. I do hope that OP loves the hell out of this thing, because I don't want to see him end up with $4k into a $1500 rifle and a big box of parts to get sold at a 50% loss on the EE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's supporting the industry... Nothing wrong with that. Pick your parts, build it how you like! I work in the manufacturing industry. The way people complain about prices here and what's considered "expensive" is just insane. It's that he's dropping all this on his first AR. As I'm sure most of us are well aware, your first AR rarely ever stays how you build it, because the more you work with and shoot the thing you'll learn more precisely what you like. I do hope that OP loves the hell out of this thing, because I don't want to see him end up with $4k into a $1500 rifle and a big box of parts to get sold at a 50% loss on the EE. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:21:45 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up?
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:28:54 PM EDT
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I think it's the point that spending thousands on an AR15 is pretty much a waste unless there is some specific goal like some kind of clone correct rifle or the most lightweight AR15 possible. Otherwise, it's just an AR15 and they are cheap.
I almost dropped $2000+ on a KAC rifle. The good folks on this board got my mind right thank god. I'm building a MK18 clone for a lot less. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:32:15 PM EDT
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I think it's the point that spending thousands on an AR15 is pretty much a waste unless there is some specific goal like some kind of clone correct rifle or the most lightweight AR15 possible. Otherwise, it's just an AR15 and they are cheap. I almost dropped $2000+ on a KAC rifle. The good folks on this board got my mind right thank god. I'm building a MK18 clone for a lot less. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:34:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:45:45 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh ok i see. I just wanted to make it 100% mine. and build it part by part. couldve saved alot by going forged recievers, but because i went billet, that was a chunk of the build. I think that's what people here are trying to say. I would listen to the advice they offer. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:50:22 PM EDT
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Don’t get all defensive , you made the thread. At the emd of the day you (presumably) impusle bought whatever was in stock and now you have a entry level franken-build that really is just a $3000 plinker. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:55:14 PM EDT
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What is/was the intended use of this rifle?
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Posted: 10/11/2018 7:59:35 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? I just assembled another upper: BCM4 Upper receiver, 18" Larue Stealth barrel, Geissele MK13 14" rail, Mil-Spec BCG, Radian Raptor charging handle Approximately $600 total by buying parts from vendors (mostly 3rd party) when they run sales & they will be having sales coming for Thanksgiving/Black Friday. Wait it out, make a plan & watch the sales.  BTW, Last time I was up in your neck of the woods, Riley's had a good selection of parts & prices were better than Shooters but that was awhile ago. Edit: Don't pass up the deal on the Larue MBT, well worth the money & I own a few Geissele's |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:01:15 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? Hate to brake it to you but there is nothing special about your build. CHF barrel should be standard on any serious rifle but man for the money you are spending. You can get a serious rifle like the several we have mentioned that will perform better and hold value. Your Frankenstein AR will never fetch above $850 at max. I’ll take forged receiver over billet any day of the week. P Honestly...you can get a better setup through PSA for $1000. Heck. I have a Ruger SR556VT with scope for $1000 that is a better platform than your build list. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep what you have if you already bought it. My Larue barrel at $199 shoots on par with my Noveske SS barrels. (77gr Federal Match) I just assembled another upper: BCM4 Upper receiver, 18" Larue Stealth barrel, Geissele MK13 14" rail, Mil-Spec BCG, Radian Raptor charging handle Approximately $600 total by buying parts from vendors (mostly 3rd party) when they run sales & they will be having sales coming for Thanksgiving/Black Friday. Wait it out, make a plan & watch the sales. http://i67.tinypic.com/1z1hj88.jpg Thank you sir BTW, Last time I was up in your neck of the woods, Riley's had a good selection of parts & prices were better than Shooters but that was awhile ago. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a thumbs up. You need our approval?!? Tactical ninja is strong with you. Hate to brake it to you but there is nothing special about your build. CHF barrel should be standard on any serious builds. Honestly...you can get a better setup through PSA for $1000. Heck. I have a Ruger SR556VT with scope for $1000 that is a better platform than your build list |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:07:35 PM EDT
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Billet is weaker than forged. It’s just a fancy name to charge folks more money.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Billet reciever pretty much ate up most the build, cut that for forged and save 300. your opinion. PM Sent! |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:15:09 PM EDT
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For what it's worth, this is the "battle rifle" parts list i came up with 16” DD CHF Midlength $289 ok Spike’s crusader lower $115 Anderson ghost $45 BCM MCMR 15” $199 Midwest industries 130 LPK $49 fine Geissele SSA $240 G2S same as ssa but $50 less Super 42 $65 unnecessary Buffer tube $50 $35 max Magpul SLS $70 ok Gas block $89 $30. you don't want adjustable for "battle rifle" Gas tube $22 $10 Cherry Bomb $80 ok if you're planning on using with their can Lantac ebcg $270 Bcm or dd doesn't even cost that much Ambi selector $48 only if you're left handed Spikes upper assy $104 fine Can get most on Primary Arms. Total: $1,690 |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:24:06 PM EDT
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Save money where you can cause you'll have to budget for optics/mount/buis/white light. That'll run you another $1000 for a quality set up I bought an Aimpoint Pro on sale for $315, A LNIB Nightforce Mil/Mil Zero Stop NXS 2.5-10X32 with Nightforce mount for $1100 The deals are out there to be had. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:30:02 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? It may hurt your pride, but that guy who recommended that you return everything and eat the restocking fees wasn't really wrong. If your parts are already off for coating or if you've gotten rid of all the packaging, then you're pretty much SOL, so I hope that you do enjoy your rig. But the fact is that your first rifle is rarely your last, and rarely does it stay the way you set it up. I'm on my third rifle now and it's on it's umpteenth configuration between lights, foregrips, optics, etc. I've gone through two triggers, one BCG, and a charging handle with it. I don't care much what your rifle looks like, aesthetics are personal. I just don't want to see you be one of the many people that ends up going big on their first gun, realizing that it's a very non-optimal setup for them and they're uses, and spending 150-400% of what they should have so now they've no money left for actually shooting the thing, let alone getting training with it. We'd rather see you swallow your pride on your first build and get a budget build that you can slowly and piece by piece grow with in usage and preference, adding parts as you recognize what you want and need. In the end, you may replace every single part on the rifle. But then you'll have one gun that's what you want, one beater rifle, and you'll still have spent less money than this setup. If it wasn't your first build, you'd probably be getting half the ribbing that you are. But this is ARFCOM, and we're a big fan of blunt love rather than roundabout politeness. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:32:15 PM EDT
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I think I built one with a stainless barrell for about $500... I'm happy. My build cheapo build: Anderson stripped lower $25 CMMG LPK $25 PSA stainless upper 1/2 $200 Refield mount $16 Leupold AR Mod 1 $4 JMT trigger $50 THM 4302MB $75 Magpul CTR stock $30 MOE pistol grip $12 Most of those crazy prices are from industry promos. But crazy light and accurate. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:39:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, the Faxon is the least concern here. Probably one of the better parts options. They're a great barrel if you're working towards a lightweight build, but they aren't top tier - that's what Noveske and such is. If you're dropping "no budget" builds, faxon isn't one of the names you're generally going to see, though for every other build they're more than good enough. It may hurt your pride, but that guy who recommended that you return everything and eat the restocking fees wasn't really wrong..... |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:45:25 PM EDT
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Unfortunately the Receiver, and handguard are already off getting coated. Everything else I still have in packaging. The barrel may be worth keeping as well, depending on what exactly you want this build to be used for. Cherry Bomb I think will come with the suppressor, so just use an A2 until then. There's a few other parts in there that aren't necessarily bad choices, but you just need to know what you want to do with the gun to figure out whether or not it'll be a good idea. If you know what exactly you want to be doing with this, I and others here would be happy to help optimize your parts list to your intentions. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 8:46:03 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 9:41:25 PM EDT
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There's nothing wrong with a Faxon barrel. The point is a high priced AR should focus on the barrel and trigger, not the instagram parts. More money doesn't mean higher quality, but it's your rifle, so if you want a fancy looking one go for it.
Don't spend that much on a "battle rifle". Spend more money on mags and ammo, then optics. You can get that spikes lower for $80 shipped on sale. Geissele triggers are significantly cheaper every time there's a good sale going on. So are mags and ammo. I don't see the point in ambi selectors for most people. Seems like one more unnecessary part to break. I'll take three tool craft BCGs over one of those lantacs any day of the week. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 9:52:17 PM EDT
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There's nothing wrong with a Faxon barrel. The point is a high priced AR should focus on the barrel and trigger, not the instagram parts. More money doesn't mean higher quality, but it's your rifle, so if you want a fancy looking one go for it. Don't spend that much on a "battle rifle". Spend more money on mags and ammo, then optics. You can get that spikes lower for $80 shipped on sale. Geissele triggers are significantly cheaper every time there's a good sale going on. So are mags and ammo. I don't see the point in ambi selectors for most people. Seems like one more unnecessary part to break. I'll take three tool craft BCGs over one of those lantacs any day of the week. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 9:55:34 PM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? That said you framed your post as a no budget build and bought tons of expensive accessories that don't really matter, and than went cheap on the most important part of your rifle, the barrel. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with the Faxon Gunner Barrel, in fact it would be one of my go to barrels on an $800 budget build. They are extremely high quality for their price and one of the best values on the market. That said you framed your post as a no budget build and bought tons of expensive accessories that don't really matter, and than went cheap on the most important part of your rifle, the barrel. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:10:22 PM EDT
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What sites should i keep an eye on for the sales? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's nothing wrong with a Faxon barrel. The point is a high priced AR should focus on the barrel and trigger, not the instagram parts. More money doesn't mean higher quality, but it's your rifle, so if you want a fancy looking one go for it. Don't spend that much on a "battle rifle". Spend more money on mags and ammo, then optics. You can get that spikes lower for $80 shipped on sale. Geissele triggers are significantly cheaper every time there's a good sale going on. So are mags and ammo. I don't see the point in ambi selectors for most people. Seems like one more unnecessary part to break. I'll take three tool craft BCGs over one of those lantacs any day of the week. I've picked up several spikes lowers for $80 from aim surplus. Right to bear has good deals as well. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:10:58 PM EDT
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Fair enough. By no budget i really mean i wasnt worried about the prices of the things i was buying. I based my purchase on the Faxon off reviews, not knowing what i was doing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with the Faxon Gunner Barrel, in fact it would be one of my go to barrels on an $800 budget build. They are extremely high quality for their price and one of the best values on the market. That said you framed your post as a no budget build and bought tons of expensive accessories that don't really matter, and than went cheap on the most important part of your rifle, the barrel. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:14:28 PM EDT
[#34]
An accurate value on the EE for this gun would be around $750.
Just so you know. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:41:29 PM EDT
[#35]
Spent the same $ for a BCG as he did for a barrel
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Posted: 10/12/2018 3:39:40 AM EDT
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Truth be told I’m not hating on the barrel. I use Ballistic Advantage almost exclusively now. Between their accuracy guarantee, price, and performance so far...I see no reason to use anything else (unless looking for specific profile/length/gas setup). I’ve used everything from BA to Rainer, BCM, Noveske and dollar for dollar I’m most pleased with BA.
My mantra after poor experiences with BCM is I try to buy parts that are sold by the ACTUAL manufacturer, not a company rebranding. To each is own but so far my experiences have been far better. Exception being Rainier Arms .308 barrel, that thing is AWESOME and consistent .75-.90 MOA with Aero M5 enhanced build. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 6:09:25 AM EDT
[#37]
For three K, I feel like you could a lot better.
Also if you’re buying a trash panda you don’t need to buy a cherry bomb as it comes with two. So I saved you 80 bucks already. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 6:59:17 AM EDT
[#38]
Hold my beer OP...
 Attached File Attached FileThat said, you can build a very "cool" AR with a Geissele handguard, Fail Zero NiB BCG, BA barrel and Larue trigger for under $1000. I've done this a few years in a row using the Black Friday sales. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:37:43 AM EDT
[#39]
It's really impressive to reach a price tag that high without having a single piece of Knight's gear on the build sheet.
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Posted: 10/12/2018 8:49:57 AM EDT
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Hold my beer OP... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/0A9FE012-B6B4-4733-B65F-A79E2D106B1A_jpeg-702364.JPG That said, you can build a very "cool" AR with a Geissele handguard, Fail Zero NiB BCG, BA barrel and Larue trigger for under $1000. I've done this a few years in a row using the Black Friday sales. 
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:16:20 AM EDT
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Truth be told I’m not hating on the barrel. I use Ballistic Advantage almost exclusively now. Between their accuracy guarantee, price, and performance so far...I see no reason to use anything else (unless looking for specific profile/length/gas setup). I’ve used everything from BA to Rainer, BCM, Noveske and dollar for dollar I’m most pleased with BA. My mantra after poor experiences with BCM is I try to buy parts that are sold by the ACTUAL manufacturer, not a company rebranding. To each is own but so far my experiences have been far better. Exception being Rainier Arms .308 barrel, that thing is AWESOME and consistent .75-.90 MOA with Aero M5 enhanced build. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:34:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What sites should i keep an eye on for the sales? I have dealt with all of them & they are good to go! https://sharkarms.com/ https://geissele.com/ https://www.aimsurplus.com/ good for BCM parts priced cheaper than BCM https://www.larue.com/ https://www.rainierarms.com/ www.primaryarms.com www.joeboboutfitters.com/ www.vsevenweaponsystems.com (lightweight parts) www.righttobear.com https://dsgarms.com https://www.dsarms.com/c-671-ar15-m16-parts.aspx https://www.andersonmanufacturing.com/ https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15.html |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:36:14 AM EDT
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Hold my beer OP... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/0A9FE012-B6B4-4733-B65F-A79E2D106B1A_jpeg-702364.JPG That said, you can build a very "cool" AR with a Geissele handguard, Fail Zero NiB BCG, BA barrel and Larue trigger for under $1000. I've done this a few years in a row using the Black Friday sales. BA barrel Geissele handguard FZ NiB BCG Larue trigger Magpul MBUS Pro Raptor CH B5 SOPMOD buttstock Like I said earlier, catch the BF sales and it is easy to build a "high-end" AR on a budget.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:40:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Found one of my sub $1K builds... BA barrel Geissele handguard FZ NiB BCG Larue trigger Magpul MBUS Pro Raptor CH B5 SOPMOD buttstock Like I said earlier, catch the BF sales and it is easy to build a "high-end" AR. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Sub1000_jpg-702431.JPG |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 9:43:40 AM EDT
[#45]
Found another one of my old builds. This one was right around $800. Green Mountain SS barrelled tack driver.
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Posted: 10/12/2018 10:00:34 AM EDT
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For real guys, whats wrong with the Faxon 16" gunner barrel? I saw great reviews and videos on them. Do i need to get a $541 Noveske barrel to get thumbs up? or will a DD CHF or Rainier Arms Barrel get some thumbs up? Although your rifle was expensive and not for everyone, it's what you wanted and that's the important part. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 11:47:27 AM EDT
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You guys are harsh, but I understand.
I'm a cheap bastard with champagne taste, so I'm constantly checking the EE on this board and others looking for used or deeply discounted stuff. OP, Build whatever you want, but understand you'll take a beating if you decide to sell this build sometime down the road. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 1:08:14 PM EDT
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Found another one of my old builds. This one was right around $800. Green Mountain SS barrelled tack driver. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Sub__800_jpg-702441.JPG |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 1:48:05 PM EDT
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Q suppressor was a good buy.
$2000 for the rest
Should’ve gone KAC or Radian. Really should’ve just gone Colt, Aero Precision or even PSA for a first rifle. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 1:55:22 PM EDT
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How's the green mountain barrel? They're local, saw their stuff and debated on it before I started ordering. |
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