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Posted: 9/25/2003 8:05:40 PM EDT
I finally save enough money to buy a kit or a complete rifle. So many choices, can you help me narrow down? Which would you buy for under $1000? RRA, Model 1, J&T?
Any other good web sites?
Thanks!
Link Posted: 9/25/2003 8:27:18 PM EDT
1) RRA complete rifle 2) J&T 3) Model 1 In that order 4) there is no better AR website! However, here are some other good websites (courtesy of Buddy Hinton of Sturmgewehr.com): http://www.sturmgewehr.com/ http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/nonnfaad.cgi http://www.paradise-web.com/plus/plus.mirage?who=tuco10&all=yes http://www.concentric.net/~Ldrennan/Gun_Related_Message_Boards.htm http://www.gunandknife.com/boards/ http://www.bachmangun.com/buysell/wwwboard.html http://www.prebanguns.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html http://www.selectfire.com/wwwboard/ http://www.bigjimsmgs.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html http://www.Radiks.net/~srm/wwwboard/non-nfa/index.html http://x-pointcgi.com/cgi-bin/users/3081/wwwboard/wwwboard.html http://www.biggerhammer.net/sigamt/wwwboard/ http://www.urban-armory.com/wwwboard2/wwwboard2.html http://www.dalphon.com/wwwboard.html http://www.championfirearms.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html http://12.4.191.54/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl? http://www.sonic.net/~manzer/rack/ http://www.gunxchange.com/ http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/armedpredato/index.html http://www.naaminis.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html http://www.civilwarguns.com/meeboard/index.cgi http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=worldmilitaria;list http://www.hk91.com/ http://www.armsnet.com/ http://www.shooterstalk.com/index.html http://www.uwm.edu/~jpipes/wwwboard/wwwmess3.html http://www.okcgs.com/bbs/ Hundreds of links at....http://www.reloadammo.com/rel-link.htm and at........ http://web4.integraonline.com/~bbroadside/Links.html ...............http://www.ontarget-ny.com/links.html ...............http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Guns/Manufacturers/ from New Zealand........http://www.shoopar.co.nz/lnks.html ...............http://www.pla-net.net/~rcomer/ammo.htm Manuals online at.... http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/ Auction sites................. http://www.auctionarms.com/ http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/all/category135/index.html http://gunbroker.leaseanauction.com/ http://www.antiqueguns.com/ Fal Board at...... http://www.fnfal.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro HK Board at....... http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/ AK board at....... http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/ in Russian at..... http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/ AK47.net at....... http://www.ak-47.net/ Valmet Board at... http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/valmetweaponsclub AUG Board at...... http://STEYR-AUG.COM/ MAC Board at...... http://gulfcoastarmory.com/m11.html 1941 Johnson Board... http://www.qis.net/~pullen/cgi-bin/wwwboard.html Glock Board at.... http://glocktalk.com/ Makarov Board at.. http://makarov.com/wwwboard/ Ruger 10/22 Board at.. http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/g/27940 British weapons... http://hotboards.com/powerforum/pwrforum.exe?who=canadianweapons Swedish weapons at.... http://www.hotboards.com/powerforum/pwrforum.exe?who=swedeforum&all=yes Shotgun News at..... http://www.shotgunnews.com/ Gun List at......... http://www.krause.com/firearms/ pictures of weapons at...... http://www.securityarms.com/gallery.htm where to post pictures for the Internet... http://www.photopoint.com/
Link Posted: 9/25/2003 10:58:06 PM EDT
Another great site to learn about builing your own guns, not just assembling them is Roderus Custom, not as busy as here, but great people who will help when they can. http://www.roderuscustom.tzo.com/ between here and there you should be able to learn about all there is to know on building and maintaining AR's.
Link Posted: 10/6/2003 6:52:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2003 6:54:07 PM EDT by meanshot]
If you are decent with your hand and your able to follow directions,a kit is a very good way to go. I have seen complete rifles around 860.00 and I believe it have a life time waranty." Not positive but I'm thinking thats what I seen. I bought a 16" upper kit from Model 1 and a lower of AR-Toys.com assembled the lower with plans off of this site and I'm real happy with what I ended up with. And I only have about 540.00 invested.
Link Posted: 10/6/2003 7:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2003 7:06:56 PM EDT by xanadu]
Originally Posted By AK_Mike: 1) RRA complete rifle 2) J&T 3) Model 1 In that order 4) there is no better AR website! However, here are some other good websites (courtesy of Buddy Hinton of Sturmgewehr.com): [url]http://www.sturmgewehr.com/ [/url] [url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/nonnfaad.cgi[/url] [url]http://www.paradise-web.com/plus/plus.mirage?who=tuco10&all=yes [/url] [url]http://www.concentric.net/~Ldrennan/Gun_Related_Message_Boards.htm [/url] [url]http://www.gunandknife.com/boards/[/url] [url]http://www.bachmangun.com/buysell/wwwboard.html [/url] [url]http://www.prebanguns.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html[/url] [url]http://www.selectfire.com/wwwboard/ [/url] [url]http://www.bigjimsmgs.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html [/url] [url]http://www.Radiks.net/~srm/wwwboard/non-nfa/index.html[/url] [url]http://x-pointcgi.com/cgi-bin/users/3081/wwwboard/wwwboard.html [/url] [url]http://www.biggerhammer.net/sigamt/wwwboard/[/url] [url]http://www.urban-armory.com/wwwboard2/wwwboard2.html[/url] [url]http://www.dalphon.com/wwwboard.html[/url] [url]http://www.championfirearms.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html[/url] [url]http://12.4.191.54/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl?[/url] [url]http://www.sonic.net/~manzer/rack/[/url] [url]http://www.gunxchange.com/[/url] [url]http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/armedpredato/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.naaminis.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html [/url] [url]http://www.civilwarguns.com/meeboard/index.cgi[/url] [url]http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=worldmilitaria;list[/url] [url]http://www.hk91.com/ [/url] [url]http://www.armsnet.com/ [/url] [url]http://www.shooterstalk.com/index.html[/url] [url]http://www.uwm.edu/~jpipes/wwwboard/wwwmess3.html [/url] [url]http://www.okcgs.com/bbs/[/url] Hundreds of links at....[url]http://www.reloadammo.com/rel-link.htm[/url] and at........ [url]http://web4.integraonline.com/~bbroadside/Links.html[/url] ...............[url]http://www.ontarget-ny.com/links.html[/url] ...............[url]http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Guns/Manufacturers/[/url] from New Zealand........[url]http://www.shoopar.co.nz/lnks.html[/url] ...............[url]http://www.pla-net.net/~rcomer/ammo.htm[/url] Manuals online at.... [url]http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/[/url] Auction sites................. [url]http://www.auctionarms.com/[/url] [url]http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/all/category135/index.html[/url] [url]http://gunbroker.leaseanauction.com/[/url] [url]http://www.antiqueguns.com/[/url] Fal Board at...... [url]http://www.fnfal.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro[/url] HK Board at....... [url]http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/[/url] AK board at....... [url]http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/[/url] in Russian at..... [url]http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/ [/url] AK47.net at....... [url]http://www.ak-47.net/[/url] Valmet Board at... [url]http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/valmetweaponsclub[/url] AUG Board at...... [url]http://STEYR-AUG.COM/[/url] MAC Board at...... [url]http://gulfcoastarmory.com/m11.html [/url] 1941 Johnson Board... [url]http://www.qis.net/~pullen/cgi-bin/wwwboard.html[/url] Glock Board at.... [url]http://glocktalk.com/ [/url] Makarov Board at.. [url]http://makarov.com/wwwboard/[/url] Ruger 10/22 Board at.. [url]http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/g/27940[/url] British weapons... [url]http://hotboards.com/powerforum/pwrforum.exe?who=canadianweapons[/url] Swedish weapons at.... [url]http://www.hotboards.com/powerforum/pwrforum.exe?who=swedeforum&all=yes [/url] Shotgun News at..... [url]http://www.shotgunnews.com/[/url] Gun List at......... [url]http://www.krause.com/firearms/[/url] pictures of weapons at...... [url]http://www.securityarms.com/gallery.htm[/url] where to post pictures for the Internet... [url]http://www.photopoint.com/[/url]
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Sorry, but it was just too good to pass up... MADE YOUR LINKS HOT! FWIW - get a RRA lower, a DPMS lower parts kit and a J&T Upper, stock and grip kit, you'll spend 550 -600 and pocket the rest. When you get done, you'll have working knowledge of the internals of the AR and you'll have a rife that will shoot at least the same as everyone elses, and better than some out there now. (edited 'cause I missed one)
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 1:18:08 AM EDT
[:O] Whoa! Way to go, xanadu - that must have been a pain in the a$$, I was far to lazy to do that. Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 4:37:38 PM EDT
Marked for the links
Link Posted: 10/7/2003 7:04:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AK_Mike: 1) RRA complete rifle 2) J&T 3) Model 1 In that order
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Yeap, I second whatever he said...in that order BR
Link Posted: 10/8/2003 2:09:51 AM EDT
My Next Build will be a J&T with the chrome lined barrel. After my first, which I admit I screwed up worse than most, but now shoots well enough to hang on my wall [8)], I watched and listened and observed about the different kit manufacturers. My final conclusion is that J&T is the way to go. That extra twenty-five or thirty bucks over some of the others is ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT in the level of customer service they provide. That, and J&T gets high marks from other builders here. And as soon as my wallet starts weighing me down again, I'm gonna be another happy J&T Customer. Okay, gonna put down my pompoms and take off this stupid little skirt now. Panz [bounce]
Link Posted: 10/8/2003 2:46:26 AM EDT
Have to go with Panz on this. J&T prides themselves on quality. Built my first for around $550 including forged lower. The barrel is really tight and acurate and can't beat a Colt trigger system. Bought my Bush M4 for $850 at a gunshow. Hope that helps, Tj
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