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Posted: 8/26/2003 6:39:51 AM EDT
Ok Its Time for me to build. I think for my first AR I want a 20" Or an M4 I cant really decide but anyway. I need to build one for Cheap Really Cheap. This means probably getting an A@ because i dont want to hassle with optics! So... Can you help me?!
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 7:54:52 AM EDT
olympic arms striped lower receiver $82.00 You can find complete rifle parts kits from manufacturers or distributers for $400.00 If you want better parts and have time, just watch auctions and the EE.
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 8:06:38 AM EDT
I can highly recommend the J&T kits, and use with Oly, DPMS or whatever other lower you want. With a lower for about $100-$150 (depending on brand and after paying FFL transfer) and the J&T kit for about $450, you end up with a very nice rifle for about $600.
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 8:37:30 AM EDT
I want a 20" What is better 1/8 or 1/9 twist? And I think im going with M&A parts kit unless i can find a complete upper on EE Justin
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 8:37:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/26/2003 8:42:03 AM EDT by monkeyman]
If you want cheap... I second the Oly arms lower or one of the other stripped lowers found here or at other web sites. A guy on assaultweb.net sells contract stripped lowers at a good price. You can find uppers and some other parts on ebay for fairly cheap. Look at preban uppers to convert to postban. Swap the flash hider for a comp, grind off the bayo lug and you got a post ban. Cut the 20" bbl down for dissapator type carbine if you want a shorter rifle. Model 1 sales has some pretty good deals on uppers. They will also sell the bolt/carrier with the upper at a slight dicount. M16 bolts/carriers can sometimes be found cheaper than a semi bolt. These are easy to convert to semi with 5 minutes on a grinder.
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 9:35:40 AM EDT
I already got a Forged lower. So I think i will go with M&A. What is better 1/8 twist or 1/9. Justin
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 9:45:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By justinwb: I already got a Forged lower. So I think i will go with M&A. What is better 1/8 twist or 1/9. Justin
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Link Posted: 8/26/2003 9:47:33 AM EDT
Thanks I will do 1/9
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 10:33:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/26/2003 10:34:25 AM EDT by Fenian]
Get the Model 1 standard CAR kit for $400, and an Eagle or Mega lower. With shipping, $517 to you (more if you have to pay trasfer/shipping on the lower...I didn't). BTW, Quantico Arms has the Eagle lowers back in stock TODAY, according to an email they sent me. $100 plus shipping. I've seen the Megas for $89 shipped, and if you can get the Oly for $82, jump on it. In the long run, I think you'll be happier if you get the flat top; you can always snag an inexpensive red dot or scope on the EE., then replace it when you can afford something better. Even a $30 BSA red dot would work for a while; you're not gonna be happy with the limited sighting options of the A2 config, if that's gonna be you're only rifle for a while. My 16" Model 1 just did a bunch of sub moa groups with the loads I was testing...first chance I had to put good ammo through it. I don't see you needing a 20" rifle; the 16" standard barrel will do everything you need it to, and be lighter and easier to track with. The M4 profile is cool, but I don't think it gives you anything special, and I think the M4 kit will be more expensive...stick with a standard barrel with no muzzle device. Down the road, if you want to swap the barrel or install a float tube or whatever, you won't have to worry about removing the muzzle brake. I'm VERY happy with my Model 1 standard CAR kit. I've pimped it out some, but still, the basic rifle has performed flawlessly ever since I got it. I'm happy with the accuracy so far; I'm gonna tweek the load I worked with this weekend some more, when I can afford more bullets lol, so I expect I can really get it dialed in to do sub moa all the time.
Link Posted: 8/26/2003 12:34:19 PM EDT
I dont want a 16" I just bought an AK and thats a 17" So im getting a 20". If and when i get a 16" m4 i will take the 20" off and use that lower! Thanks Justin
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 10:00:19 AM EDT
I went with the model 1 20" kit- 400+18 s&h oly arms FORGED lower- 118 good price for an excellent gun
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 12:15:22 PM EDT
Iblis was selling fully asembled Stinger lowers for $230 last I remember- don't remember his business webpage though. With a $289 upper from J&T, that would give you a fully assembled rifle for $520!
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 2:48:02 PM EDT
ahh...that doesn't include the bolt or bolt carrier. It would be closer to $610 or so.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 3:33:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2003 3:36:16 PM EDT by IANick]
Not to sound too much like a noob(which I am), but if I buy this kit: [URL=http://www.model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=KSO200&storeid=1&image=s20postk.gif]KIT[/URL] and this lower:[URL=http://www.quanticoarms.com/graphics/items/EA900P.jpg]Lower[/URL] That's all I need for complete AR. Maybe a few tools, spare parts(pins and such) and the USMC manual. Thanks Nick
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 4:46:26 PM EDT
Yep...thats all you need. Except for a magazine or two. You don't even need alot of tools to complete a rifle. The Model 1 kits come with the upper fully assembled. All you have to do is put the lower together. All you need for that is a screwdriver and maybe a punch set.
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