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Posted: 5/31/2018 12:12:12 PM EDT
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Hopefully it hits retailers some time this year. I'll be an early adopter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Well I have good news for you! 
The XH30 is a thing! XH30 Personally I want an X300 based XH30. Basically an XH30 without the low output or strobe mode; preferably one that fits in all the current X300 holsters. I'll be an early adopter. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it comes down the pipe sooner rather than later. I'm holding out for the simpler X300ish version, which I dont even know if it's coming, but I have my fingers crossed. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:18:25 PM EDT
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Read through some of the posts here. Came to say Surefire is a top notch company, and I will buy nothing else. They are proud of their products, and their prices show this. But I'll be damned if I use anything else. Personal and operational experience (before I knew better) has shown lesser lights --wont mention any particular company(s)-- do NOT come close to dependability, construction OR warranty as Surefire.
No, I am not endorsed by them. P.S. How many Lumens do you need? All of them. No such thing as too much light....turds. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:34:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: P.S. How many Lumens do you need? All of them. No such thing as too much light....turds. Now I’ll only purchase their weapons lights, for hand held lights I purchase Fenix. They are DEPENDABLE, they cost quite a bit less, and they ARE A HELL OF LOT BRIGHTER !!!! |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I drank the Surefire Kool Aid for years, I have over $2,000 worth of Surefire lights..,,,NO MORE! Now I’ll only purchase their weapons lights, for hand held lights I purchase Fenix. They are DEPENDABLE, they cost quite a bit less, and they ARE A HELL OF LOT BRIGHTER !!!! It had been mounted on a rifle for a short period of time to see if it could handle the abuse, and its still ticking. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:42:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I drank the Surefire Kool Aid for years, I have over $2,000 worth of Surefire lights..,,,NO MORE! There are only a handful of actual WML companies. Streamlight is trash. You do the math. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 4:45:56 PM EDT
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I’d have to dig them out but off the top of my head I have a
Guardian M6 it would burn through 6 123 batteries in 20 minutes and throw a whopping 500 Lumens Centurion C3 w/the first Gen LED Head (bright as a small candle) I had a M900, it was a HEAVY PIG. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 5:00:27 PM EDT
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I’d have to dig them out but off the top of my head I have a Guardian M6 it would burn through 6 123 batteries in 20 minutes and throw a whopping 500 Lumens Centurion C3 w/the first Gen LED Head (bright as a small candle) I had a M900, it was a HEAVY PIG. What's better, then? FWIW, I'm talking about real WMLs, like the M900. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 5:06:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, no failures, just ate batteries and not bright enough or too heavy... What's better, then? FWIW, I'm talking about real WMLs, like the M900. 
I have 25 Fenix TK41’s issued to my employees and after two years there are ZERO issues! The prior TK40 had issues with the switch, but the TK41 has been FLAWLESS! 900 Lumens and a price of just over $100.00 ea. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 5:08:38 PM EDT
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I drank the Surefire Kool Aid for years, I have over $2,000 worth of Surefire lights..,,,NO MORE! Now I’ll only purchase their weapons lights, for hand held lights I purchase Fenix. They are DEPENDABLE, they cost quite a bit less, and they ARE A HELL OF LOT BRIGHTER !!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: P.S. How many Lumens do you need? All of them. No such thing as too much light....turds. Now I’ll only purchase their weapons lights, for hand held lights I purchase Fenix. They are DEPENDABLE, they cost quite a bit less, and they ARE A HELL OF LOT BRIGHTER !!!! |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 8:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually I had a failure of a M951, when I called Surefire they had me stretch the spring.
I have 25 Fenix TK41’s issued to my employees and after two years there are ZERO issues! The prior TK40 had issues with the switch, but the TK41 has been FLAWLESS! 900 Lumens and a price of just over $100.00 ea. I'm talking about WMLs, you're talking about handhelds. I totally agree that there are much better options for handhelds. There simply aren't any for WMLs, though. My EDC is a Nitecore P12. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 8:34:30 PM EDT
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As I stated somewhere in this thread, no one has a tape switch that’s even remotely on the level of Surefire.
As I also stated I will probably purchase this new light simply because it uses 18650 batteries. I will in all probability also change the head out for a custom unit. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 8:41:08 PM EDT
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As I stated somewhere in this thread, no one has a tape switch that’s even remotely on the level of Surefire. As I also stated I will probably purchase this new light simply because it uses 18650 batteries. I will in all probability also change the head out for a custom unit. |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 9:23:26 AM EDT
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So is this thing available yet and where? I've got to get me a new light to replace my 952v.
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Posted: 6/1/2018 11:59:38 AM EDT
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I got mine from PSA.
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Posted: 6/1/2018 1:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I drank the Surefire Kool Aid for years, I have over $2,000 worth of Surefire lights..,,,NO MORE! Now I’ll only purchase their weapons lights, for hand held lights I purchase Fenix. They are DEPENDABLE, they cost quite a bit less, and they ARE A HELL OF LOT BRIGHTER !!!! |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 2:59:35 PM EDT
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Wondering how an M600 thread became a "Surefire's handhelds are overrated" thread.
Who gives a shit about standalone lights? This is ar15.com, not pocket lights.com. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 12:10:40 PM EDT
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Wondering how an M600 thread became a "Surefire's handhelds are overrated" thread. Who gives a shit about standalone lights? This is ar15.com, not pocket lights.com. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 9:33:46 AM EDT
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Wondering how an M600 thread became a "Surefire's handhelds are overrated" thread. Who gives a shit about standalone lights? This is ar15.com, not pocket lights.com. I'm not going to go back and edit out posts, but please keep things on topic. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 5:49:39 PM EDT
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Back on topic, now have an M600DF on both my primary rifle and my primary shotgun. And yes, I know my rifle setup is decidedly outside of current Arfcom vogue and more like 2010 era. NFG. It works for me, I like it.
 Attached FileColt LE901-16SE with M600DF mounted on an ADM AD-SF-C mount  Attached FileBenelli M4 Super90 with M600DF mounted on an IWC Multilight Mount |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 7:43:14 PM EDT
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Mine is also now on my new go-to rifle now that the stamps finally came back:
 I like the Cloud LCS so far too, beats tape that's for sure. THe only downside is when I have my thumb up there it appears in the bottom of the Eotech window. My walls are white and I don't a bunch of splashback at night like some people were saying. There is a noticeable shadow from my suppressor though but the farther out the light reaches the less noticeable it is. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 10:18:34 PM EDT
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Anywhere just selling the head?
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Posted: 6/11/2018 11:24:06 AM EDT
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Anywhere just selling the head? |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 1:35:33 PM EDT
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FYI. The DF Scout head will not fit on legacy Scout lights. In order to accommodate the 18650 batteries the head and body of the DF scout are wider than the legacy scouts lights which only accepted 123 batteries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anywhere just selling the head? |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 3:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are the tail caps interchangeable? |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 11:27:09 PM EDT
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FYI. The DF Scout head will not fit on legacy Scout lights. In order to accommodate the 18650 batteries the head and body of the DF scout are wider than the legacy scouts lights which only accepted 123 batteries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anywhere just selling the head? |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 7:57:42 AM EDT
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Tan M600DF's are in stock at Big Tex Outdoors
https://bigtexoutdoors.com/products/surefire-m600-scout-dual-fuel-m600df-1-500-lumen-led-weapon-light-z68-tailcap?variant=9731800694828 |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 1:59:33 PM EDT
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Yes, the tan ones are available. I call them scar scouts, since they're multiple shades of fde.
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Posted: 6/15/2018 4:57:39 PM EDT
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Tan M600DF's are in stock at Big Tex Outdoors https://bigtexoutdoors.com/products/surefire-m600-scout-dual-fuel-m600df-1-500-lumen-led-weapon-light-z68-tailcap?variant=9731800694828 Anyone know any discount codes for Big Texas outdoors? |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 5:24:20 PM EDT
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Awesome, finally! Anyone know any discount codes for Big Texas outdoors? https://arisakadefense.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-light?variant=12150658170973 I was able to get 10% off with "SUREFIRE" as well, every bit helps 
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Posted: 6/15/2018 5:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I picked mine up here: https://arisakadefense.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-light?variant=12150658170973 I was able to get 10% off with "SUREFIRE" as well, every bit helps |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 9:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I picked mine up here: https://arisakadefense.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-light?variant=12150658170973 I was able to get 10% off with "SUREFIRE" as well, every bit helps |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 11:12:11 PM EDT
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I picked mine up here: https://arisakadefense.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-light?variant=12150658170973 I was able to get 10% off with "SUREFIRE" as well, every bit helps Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome, finally! Anyone know any discount codes for Big Texas outdoors? https://arisakadefense.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-light?variant=12150658170973 I was able to get 10% off with "SUREFIRE" as well, every bit helps |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 11:16:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:47:41 AM EDT
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Will anyone confirm if the head fits on other E series lights? Thank you.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:00:23 AM EDT
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Will anyone confirm if the head fits on other E series lights? Thank you. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:12:20 PM EDT
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Black available here for $225 shipped
https://www.northeastmunitions.com/products/surefire-m600df-scout-blk-1500-lumen-free-shipping |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:10:58 PM EDT
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Big Tex for the win! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/42168955694_34981c5a5d_h.jpgDF by J M, on Flickr |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:19:11 PM EDT
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Where did you find a tan Dual Switch tailcap? I have looked everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Big Tex for the win! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/42168955694_34981c5a5d_h.jpgDF by J M, on Flickr |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:12:40 PM EDT
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Been waiting to pick one up since they were reviewed by Recoil, so quite awhile. Has more spill than the markoff(sp?) head on an arisaka body and a longer throw. I love it. It's the tits and kills the orginal scout I used in the shit hole.
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Posted: 6/21/2018 3:40:25 AM EDT
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I’d have to dig them out but off the top of my head I have a Guardian M6 it would burn through 6 123 batteries in 20 minutes and throw a whopping 500 Lumens Centurion C3 w/the first Gen LED Head (bright as a small candle) I had a M900, it was a HEAVY PIG. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 3:42:43 AM EDT
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Do 123s rattle around in the DF models like they do other bored bodies?
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Posted: 6/21/2018 3:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I painted it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 5:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice. I've been looking as well. What color/paint did you use. Turned out looking good. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 11:42:43 PM EDT
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Hi guys, I need some schooling on the rechargeable 18650s batteries. How long does it take to fully charge the 18650? And how long will it hold the charge? Can I leave a charged 18650 inside a vehicle during the summer and winter? What is typical life of the 18650 before it need to be replace?
Please share any strategies that you are going to apply for using this new SF 600DF lights with your weapon, this new rechargeable 18650 on the weapon light is all new to me. Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 11:57:33 PM EDT
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Hi guys, I need some schooling on the rechargeable 18650s batteries. How long does it take to fully charge the 18650? And how long will it hold the charge? Can I leave a charged 18650 inside a vehicle during the summer and winter? What is typical life of the 18650 before it need to be replace? Please share any strategies that you are going to apply for using this new SF 600DF lights with your weapon, this new rechargeable 18650 on the weapon light is all new to me. Thanks in advance. It holds a charge for probably 6 months depending on the quality of the battery. My advice is to check it every 30 days when left in a hot/cold car. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 12:07:06 AM EDT
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I'm surprised personally to see SF using 18650s.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/elevating_self_discharge http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/elevating_self_discharge |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 4:44:21 PM EDT
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Do 123s rattle around in the DF models like they do other bored bodies? They do. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 10:59:37 PM EDT
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Do 123s rattle around in the DF models like they do other bored bodies? |
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