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Posted: 8/18/2003 1:26:57 PM EDT
I’m getting deployed to Kosovo in a few months and still have a couple things I need to buy. One of the main things I want to pick is a good flashlight. Since I haven’t bought one before, I’m just looking for advice from someone who has used it so hopefully you can help me out.

The only flashlight I have right now is a mini mag light (2 AA type), which is ok but I want something more powerful. I have always heard about Surefire lights, but don’t know anything about their models, or other manufacturers that make similar lights.

What I want is a do it all light similar in size to a mini mag light, that can be always on, or turned on by a thumb button. If possible I would also like it to be able to mount it to a m16, with an instant on pressure switch (is that what they’re called) so it can be used clearing rooms. From looking at the Surefire website I don’t know if they make one that can be hand held and weapon mounted so any info would be great. Any other manufacturers info would be great too.

Link Posted: 8/18/2003 2:59:31 PM EDT
[#1]
SureFire have "Weaver" mounts that mate and lock together using a thumb screw - Model 662's mount clamps around the M16's barrel.
Down-side is that the female mount remains attached to the light when off the weapon. You'll also need a Z41 TailCap to replace the tape pressure switch.

The alternative is to get a dedicated WeaponLight (like the model 678 that mounts to the M16 front sight post) (~$270)
[img]http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/674lrg.jpg[/img]

and a SureFire G2 - SureFire's entry model (~$30)
[img]http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/g2black_full.jpg[/img]

Both the 678 and G2 take two SF123A batteries (~$1,25 each) and the same P60 Lamp Assembly (~$16)
[img]http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/p60_full.jpg[/img]

You can use an SC1 (~$13) to carry six replacement SF123A batteries and a spare P60 Lamp.
[img]http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/sc1_full.jpg[/img]

Two flashlights are better than one. Especially when they use interchangeable parts.

Al
Link Posted: 8/18/2003 9:42:03 PM EDT
[#2]
You can get a Airsoft 6V G&P light with on/off rubber pressure switch tailcap and weaver ring from me for $65 shipped  it will attach to an RAS easilly handheld as well.

You could also get a new Insight military series waterproof M3 light and they make a clamp mount that goes over M-16 handguards if you don't have an RAS it can be handheld too but it has a toggle switch not a thumbutton like you are talking about

[b]both of these lights take 2 3-volt batteries and provide 65Lumens of light[/b] which is pretty much all you need for room clearing (there are a lot of people here who would have you believe you need a $350 turbo head with 9 3-volt batteries but I have cleared rooms in a training environment with a 6 volt and it is plenty bright enough to blind bad guys and light up a room.
Link Posted: 8/18/2003 9:45:04 PM EDT
[#3]
There is also a Fobus RAS mount availible for that above pictured entry-level surefire. It is like $20

the surefire is a decent light too.

That spares carrier is a good idea (if you are getting deployed you should take at least 25 of Surefires $1.25 batteries with you as you may not be able to find them over there.) [ziplock them to keep out moisture]
Link Posted: 8/18/2003 10:56:01 PM EDT
[#4]
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You can get a Airsoft 6V G&P
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Does an Airsoft light hold up like a real one?
Link Posted: 8/19/2003 2:02:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:

That spares carrier is a good idea (if you are getting deployed you should take at least 25 of Surefires $1.25 batteries with you as you may not be able to find them over there.) [ziplock them to keep out moisture]
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FYI: The hub batteries used in the PRC119 are the same as the SF123A types.  They'll work if you can pry them from Comm!
Link Posted: 8/19/2003 6:29:14 AM EDT
[#6]
Here's the setup I've gotten from [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=25&t=165056]Bright Flashlights[/url]

(note - I substituted my 6P and carry the G2, though I may switch back to the lighter G2 - I used the 6P since it's aluminum, like the Z32 bezel)

I also switched to the brighter P61 bulb

Fobus handguards are available for additional charge.

I trimmed the rubber rail cover on the bottom to accomodate the light mount.

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15836[/img]

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15703[/img]

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15704[/img]

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15705[/img]

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15706[/img]

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=141&iGalleryUnq=995&iImageUnq=15707[/img]

Link Posted: 8/19/2003 7:32:49 AM EDT
[#7]
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