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Posted: 12/28/2005 10:21:31 PM EDT
Is there any practical reason to have a bayonet on an AR15 for civilian useage?
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:02:43 PM EDT
Intimidating home invaders... if there still alive
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:09:23 PM EDT
it looks evil
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:10:18 PM EDT
Drive-by Bayonetings
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:39:16 AM EDT
just in case you run out of ammo
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:41:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Chaplain:
Is there any practical reason to have a bayonet on an AR15 for civilian useage?



Only because it enrages liberals and looks tacticool. No real use, except for maybe a field expedient rifle rack ( stick it in the ground )
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:46:25 AM EDT
I use it to roast marshmellows...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:58:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Chaplain:
Is there any practical reason to have a bayonet on an AR15 for civilian useage?



1. You can stick a badguy without waking the nieghbors and there is no chance the bullet will travel trough a wall and hit precious... or, if you decide not to stick/shoot him
2. The badguy is less likely to try and grab for the barrel as you hold him at bay. you may need to clean the floor beneath him after he is hauled off by the cops...

Link Posted: 12/30/2005 11:13:01 AM EDT
I don't know...

Link Posted: 12/30/2005 2:34:52 PM EDT
No, but it is my right to decide what I can put on my weapon.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 5:42:06 PM EDT
Zulu repellent
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 11:01:51 PM EDT
Who has the new style M9's in all black on the cheap?
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 11:17:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chaplain:
Is there any practical reason to have a bayonet on an AR15 for civilian useage?



Yep.
Same practicallity as a full auto AR for a civy.
Full auto should be a factory standard.
JMO
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 12:45:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 7:17:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JackalAR:
Who has the new style M9's in all black on the cheap?



Got mine off ebay for $60
Seems to be the cheapest place to get them NIB.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 7:59:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JackalAR:
Who has the new style M9's in all black on the cheap?



There area lot of knockoffs, if you go the ebay route, make sure you know what you are buying.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:52:16 AM EDT
Thanks guys, I have a pretty good idea...I'll make sure it's USGI mil-spec...blahblahblah.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:15:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By JackalAR:
Who has the new style M9's in all black on the cheap?



There area lot of knockoffs, if you go the ebay route, make sure you know what you are buying.



What do you consider a knock-off?

Mine is stamped:
M-9
ONTARIO
KNIFE CO
USA

I know that LanClay is another and there might be another but I think they are all "real" as long as they aren't jap junk.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:24:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jackal2001:

What do you consider a knock-off?

Mine is stamped:
M-9
ONTARIO
KNIFE CO
USA

I know that LanClay is another and there might be another but I think they are all "real" as long as they aren't jap junk.



There are a boatload (no pun intended) of knock offs out there. Quite often they are sold here on this board in the EE secion.

I consider a knock of to be anything that is not USGI contract. For the M9, there were numerous contracts awarded, and you could be correct with having one or more of several different companies products.

You should be good to go with a Ontario.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:41:37 AM EDT
It's biggest use is to scare wimpy politicians.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:28:16 PM EDT
The bayonet lug alone scares most liberals.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 5:47:56 AM EDT
Do the bayonets work on the 16 inch carbines, I haven't tried but it doesn't look promising, the guy with carbine picture most have a class III if thats a 14 inch?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 10:13:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 10:27:33 PM EDT by Unicorn]
The ring goes too far back on a 16" barrel. I posted a couple pics of mine at someones request.
ETA this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=261768


What practical reason to have a bayonet? What practical reason to have a deadly assault weapon that is designed for nothing but killing as many people as possible, especially little schoolkids, and maybe puppies and kittens too.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 2:01:42 AM EDT
It makes my 16" midlength long enough to stand upright in the safe
(I ususally place the scabbard over the bayonet though)

Link Posted: 1/2/2006 2:37:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 2:43:01 AM EDT
You can open letters with it mounted!
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 3:03:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 3:05:37 AM EDT by FishKepr]

Originally Posted By dSmith45:
It makes my 16" midlength long enough to stand upright in the safe
(I ususally place the scabbard over the bayonet though)

www.myweb.cableone.net/dSmith-45/mysafe.jpg



Hey, what a great idea! I finally have an excuse to get one of those puppies for my ARs.

ETA: I already a 16" for my M1917. When mounted, it's my only firearm that truly looks intimidating to me.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:31:02 AM EDT
Its our civilian right ... to have a knife on our gun how cool is that ? Besides in the military it is designed to keep formation - you stick the guy in front of you if he starts drag -assin' !
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:38:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 12:39:00 PM EDT by JackalAR]
...so I got to handle a fatty M9 bayo and DAMN they're thick. Do these babies actually take an edge you can shave with and keep it or are they just for stabbin / prying? I just don't want to waste $90 on another worthless uber-tactical / heavy add-on. (Not that I'd have it mounted except for pics)

Any quality difference in LanCay and Ontario? I use to see / play with a LOT of Ontario knives and they just seemed like extremely thick bladed dull knives with cheapo plastic / rubber handles and crap finish with matching sheath. Are all the blades black or are there other options? What's going price?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:32:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 12:43:54 PM EDT
Hi all,

Unicorn mentioned that a bayonet will ride on bare barrel if you're mounting it to a 16" carbine. A friend and I are going to be converting our "ban-legal" C.A.R.'s over to standard 16" chrome-moly barrels with lugs and threads pretty soon. Probably going to get the barrels from Model One. We want to put bayonets on `em, probably M7's. Will this in fact work? I've never had an AR with a bayonet lug on it so I'm totally not sure whether or not the 16" barrels will work well with bayonets of any variety.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 12:55:18 PM EDT
No, the standard 16" barrel will not work with the basic M7/M9 bayonet. There are custom bayonets that will work, and are around $70.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 12:17:46 PM EDT
Thanks for the info! Any advice on where to find one of these custom bayonets for a 16" barrel?
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 2:13:03 PM EDT
Jackal, what kind of bayonet and bi-pod is that. Very nice setup!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:24:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DrBlankW30:
Thanks for the info! Any advice on where to find one of these custom bayonets for a 16" barrel?


After being unable to find one myself, I just asked the same question on the G&R Tactical Forum, and one of the guys turned me on to this extended M7...
dsgarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=704

It looks good on the gun, but it sure does look funny in the sheath, with that handle being so long and oddly made. I surely don't need it. But since my rifle has a bayonet lug, it seems a shame to not have a bayonet that fits the rifle. I'll probably order one before the night's over.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:03:24 PM EDT
Thanks much for the help!
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 5:53:18 PM EDT
DSG Arms doesn't mess around. I ordered the bayonet, and three other items, at about 11:00 pm last night. I got an email this morning at 11:30 am saying the items had been shipped, and included a tracking number. My strange looking bayo is on the way!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 3:03:34 PM EDT
All of my AR's have bayonets because I waited ten years to have that freedom.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 8:37:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrBlankW30:
Hi all,

Unicorn mentioned that a bayonet will ride on bare barrel if you're mounting it to a 16" carbine. A friend and I are going to be converting our "ban-legal" C.A.R.'s over to standard 16" chrome-moly barrels with lugs and threads pretty soon. Probably going to get the barrels from Model One. We want to put bayonets on `em, probably M7's. Will this in fact work? I've never had an AR with a bayonet lug on it so I'm totally not sure whether or not the 16" barrels will work well with bayonets of any variety.

Thanks!





Click for full sized image.
The M7 will fit the same way as that M9.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 11:55:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2006 11:56:07 AM EDT by phillyd2]
Because real deterrence is still illegal for civilian use

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