Pushing probably 15 years on the site! lol Glad to be here. Thanks guys - was great seeing you at the class here this last weekend.

Yep there's definitely some confusion in that breakdown, but you've already determined it's not for you, so it's a moot point and all good in the end! Good thing there are plenty of choices in optics these days.

Well... We're already way too far down the rabbit hole and now we're comparing apples to oranges for very different types of users and agonizing over a difference of 1/8 inch - again - *IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO* in your 50 yard zero. All this with a scope, in the Gen II's case, that you're not going to dial again once zeroed... And it is significantly better than the Gen I in every way... There's a lot we could go into on all of the sights you've mentioned above, or about "Today's standards" but that's a novel for another time, or stuff we're happy to discuss with you any time if you want to keep chatting about all this over the phone some time. (Despite the fact it's not even a sight you're in the market for in the first place?)

No snarkiness intended here whatsoever. It happens all too often that a company comes out with a product, people have questions/comments/concerns/etc about it, but no one ever gets to hear from the company themselves about the who/what/why/etc behind all that. We're just here to provide as much context as possible. What you're looking for, it sounds like the Spitfire Gen II 5x here isn't quite there to deliver. For precise shooting, something with the turret system of an actual riflescope, like the Spitfire AR has, would be the better bet. The reason the Spitfire AR has a turret system like a regular riflescope intended for actually dialing is because we couldn't put a BDC reticle inside that optic for a number of reasons, but still wanted it to be a viable solution for limited division shooters in the multigun world who are limited to only 1x optics and still need to be able to ring steel out to 600-700 yards. Consequently, the Spitfire AR, despite being a 1x optic, is notably longer and a bit heavier than even the new Gen II 5x. We went for overall form/weight savings on the 5x, used a different turret system not intended for dialing precise shots, but were able to put a BDC reticle in it, which offsets that needs for most intents and purposes, and this is the end product you got.

There's tradeoffs everywhere in optics, which is why there's still no one optic that's perfect for every application, and we try to match the needs/wants of certain core groups of users with each different one. The idea of a fixed power, 5x prism with dialing turrets and a reticle more well suited for precision shots than a BDC admittedly didn't seem like it would be a common request, on account of the fact that there seem to be much better options out there for accomplishing the task of making more precise shots at intermediate distances (Like LPVO's - Which more and more military and law enforcement are switching to for that exact application, for example). Maybe you're right and maybe there is a giant market waiting for something like that to come along. We're always happy to take requests like this from people who would find themselves in that market and pass them along to our product development team - it's what we've always done. If someone isn't really even seemingly interested in the idea in the first place, then we'll just do our best to explain a few things around the concept and move on.

Speaking of "Moving on", that's probably what we should do now at this point before we somehow come across more negatively than you and perhaps others have interpreted. Again, that was never the intention and that's something we never want to do. Just trying to help make sense of things.

As we mentioned before - if anyone would ever like to call us and talk to us about things like this - we're always here. 800-426-0048 - It's also far easier to understand our tone and where we're coming from via real human voice and interaction rather than typed words on a keyboard.

Any mount that works with the very common micro red dot footprint that our SPARC series, Crossfire red dot and a ton of other dots use. AKA the "T1" footprint.

The previous generation Vortex Prism sights sell like hotcakes in the used optic world. They never collect dust on the shelves.

They're out now and shipping, but as with everything, they are likely going to be on backorder wherever you look. Depending on where you go, the backorder time could vary - it just depends on how that given dealer does their purchasing (Waiting for you to buy from them to buy from us, or keeping a steady cadence of orders through us regardless of orders from their customers).

AAOptics is usually on the ball and it looks like Al has the 3x in stock, but 5x is on BO. https://aaoptics.com/Spitfire-HD-Gen-ll-_c_56.html

EuroOptic and Midway are also good spots to get on order, just to name a few.

Admittedly could have done a better job at directions and/or labeling on the sight there. Glad you got it sorted out, though and thanks for the feedback!