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Posted: 1/12/2021 12:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We started with a clean slate and said how small can you make a optic that will perform to these parameters. I think we nailed it with the new Micro 1X and 3X (more info on 3X shortly). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks for the reply, Marsh. I have a few of your offerings, and they have worked out great including an early red dot that still works fine. I may drop the hammer on this new 1x. I really like the spitfire, but would prefer a smaller and lighter package. We started with a clean slate and said how small can you make a optic that will perform to these parameters. I think we nailed it with the new Micro 1X and 3X (more info on 3X shortly). Y'all are really killin' it at PA. My wallet is moist. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 2:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We started with a clean slate and said how small can you make a optic that will perform to these parameters. I think we nailed it with the new Micro 1X and 3X (more info on 3X shortly). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks for the reply, Marsh. I have a few of your offerings, and they have worked out great including an early red dot that still works fine. I may drop the hammer on this new 1x. I really like the spitfire, but would prefer a smaller and lighter package. We started with a clean slate and said how small can you make a optic that will perform to these parameters. I think we nailed it with the new Micro 1X and 3X (more info on 3X shortly). I just purchased a 3x Prism Gen 3, Gen 4 is right around the corner?  Is gen 3 going to use full size Acog Mounts, or will it use Mini Acog? Just wondering if I should keep my GDI Mount or not. 
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Posted: 1/12/2021 2:51:35 PM EDT
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How shortly?
S or G line? |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 9:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The photos are scaled so that the images are the proper sizes for 1.5x compared to 2x. What you see is how they each appear to the viewer looking at the same object at the same distance. Note that the field of view on the 2x is fricking huge compared to the ACOG BUT the TA45 has a massive eyebox due to ridiculously long eye relief. It’s just physics for those that don’t know. I’d rather have the massive eye box. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 11:08:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How shortly? S or G line? All remember these are SHOT show releases. We will release our catalogue next week. That means for some new for 2021 items like the 3X they can be late in the year. The large brick and mortar dealers need to plan their in store assortments far in advance. The thread is about the 1X so I will stay focused on that and it will be the one of the first new for 2021 products available. EDIT ON SPECS: THE PRELIMINARY FOV POSTED WAS NOT ACCURATE. We can't defy the laws of physics. Will post updated specs shortly |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:29:38 AM EDT
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@Marsh1
Any 1x updates...or teaser photos? Action shots would be neat! |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:50:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All remember these are SHOT show releases. We will release our catalogue next week. That means for some new for 2021 items like the 3X they can be late in the year. The large brick and mortar dealers need to plan their in store assortments far in advance. The thread is about the 1X so I will stay focused on that and it will be the one of the first new for 2021 products available. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How shortly? S or G line? All remember these are SHOT show releases. We will release our catalogue next week. That means for some new for 2021 items like the 3X they can be late in the year. The large brick and mortar dealers need to plan their in store assortments far in advance. The thread is about the 1X so I will stay focused on that and it will be the one of the first new for 2021 products available. Can you give us a rough idea when it will be available to purchase? Are we talking in the upcoming months or later on in the year? Interested in this for sure. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:55:37 PM EDT
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Dammit...now I want one...
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:02:54 PM EDT
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MAKE ONE FOR 300 BLACKOUT!
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:49:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Carry handle mount please.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:29:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a red dot the dot is at infinity,... I thought so, too, but asked for confirmation and was told it is not so. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:55:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought so, too, but asked for confirmation and was told it is not so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With a red dot the dot is at infinity,... I thought so, too, but asked for confirmation and was told it is not so. Hmmm. I'm not an optical scientist, but this doesn't match my experience. I'm farsighted, but with a red dot I don't have any issue seeing the dot. I just look at the target. I do with a 1x prism scope, and need to set the ocular adjustment correctly. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:19:49 PM EDT
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MSRP?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:22:51 PM EDT
[#14]
delete me
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:16:36 AM EDT
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I know you can't cowitness with 1x prism optics, but how is the sight picture with an fsb?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:49:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you can't cowitness with 1x prism optics, but how is the sight picture with an fsb? You can cowitness with this 1X prism |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:20:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:25:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP? Yes. How much is this going to hurt? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can cowitness with this 1X prism Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know you can't cowitness with 1x prism optics, but how is the sight picture with an fsb? You can cowitness with this 1X prism Excellent!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was to be a SHOT show release but since it was canceled I have been showing it around a little. 11 brightness settings including NV Is this the SLx MD-25? I think it’s the one I am looking at placing a preorder for. I want three of them. Two for two AR builds and one for an x95. Question. Will the sight co-witness with my x95 built in iron sights? I see that it has a few risers with it. That’s a big big plus. How is the battery life? I saw a review that a guy did (no follow up just yet) and his battery died within five or six months. I’m guessing it was a bad battery. I want either an always on optic or one that shuts off and shakes awake. I need to order three of these and stop doing Google searches and YouTube videos. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:39:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the SLx MD-25? I think it’s the one I am looking at placing a preorder for. I want three of them. Two for two AR builds and one for an x95. Question. Will the sight co-witness with my x95 built in iron sights? I see that it has a few risers with it. That’s a big big plus. How is the battery life? I saw a review that a guy did (no follow up just yet) and his battery died within five or six months. I’m guessing it was a bad battery. I want either an always on optic or one that shuts off and shakes awake. I need to order three of these and stop doing Google searches and YouTube videos. This thread is about the new 1X Micro Prism. The MD25 is a red dot. There is another thread about it here. I will and questions about it there. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Primary-Arms-SLx-MD-25-Rotary-Knob-25mm-Microdot-with-2-MOA-Red-Dot-Reticle/18-760669/ |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:40:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP? We do not do inflated MSRP. It will sell for $249.99 |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:49:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2021 12:29:10 PM EDT
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Is there a link on the site for pre-order?
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Posted: 1/18/2021 1:02:03 PM EDT
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Can we get some specs, or are we supposed to wait for a magical day when the stars would have aligned in an alternate universe/timeline?
Just tell is about the product. We’re 4 pages in already. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we get some specs, or are we supposed to wait for a magical day when the stars would have aligned in an alternate universe/timeline? Just tell is about the product. We’re 4 pages in already. The thread was a response to a SHOT show teaser post in our industry forum. Wanted to get full catalogue pages in hand of dealers first. I will post link to entire catalogue in our industry forum in the next few days but here are the ones with the new 1X. The discussion tells the story better than the printed page. Best example it eye relief is rated at 3.6" but we easily were pushing it to 7" at the range |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:22:59 PM EDT
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This looks incredibly good and promising! Saw the huge spread in the latest RECOIL Magazine. Looking forward to getting my hands on one for sure.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:17:51 PM EDT
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You are going to sell a metric shitpot of these once word gets out. I'm ready for an arf exclusive pre-order.
count me in for two up front.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:45:47 PM EDT
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after my unexpected good experience with the 2x, I'm very interested in this one
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:59:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are going to sell a metric shitpot of these once word gets out. I'm ready for an arf exclusive pre-order. count me in for two up front.Yup gonna need a pre order link please |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:12:14 PM EDT
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Put me down for a couple. They look glorious!
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:53:18 PM EDT
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Yes! A view of the left side! I'm glad the illumination knob isn't a big honking chunk hanging off the side. It looks pretty slim, which is much appreciated!
And that is a VERY RESPECTABLE FOV number! Everything points to this being a home run! Can't remember the last time I've been this excited for an optic. My only hope now is that it is truly daylight bright, in at least one of the reticle colors. I heard great things about the latest generation of green cyclops prisms. I would love to have retina-burning brightness featured in this little guy as well! I can't wait to have this in hand! Will be joining the pre-order for sure. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:20:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just purchased a 3x Prism Gen 3, Gen 4 is right around the corner? I dropped what I was doing when I got the email for the FDE 3x to place an order. I guess on the bright side it'll have time to save up for the FDE Gen 4. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:59:22 PM EDT
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@marsh1
Besides weight, size and larger reticle, any advantage over my yet to be used green cyclops? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My only hope now is that it is truly daylight bright, in at least one of the reticle colors. I heard great things about the latest generation of green cyclops prisms. I would love to have retina-burning brightness featured in this little guy as well! In the PA industry thread, Marsh posted a teaser image that says, and I quote, "Could this be the death of the red dot?" #deathoftheRedDot With that bold statement, I'm thinking they have that covered lol ... I'm in for a Gemini reticle when they become available for pre order FOR CERTAIN! Probably a cyclops also! He also posted this image in that thread, so it appears as though everyone should rest assured:  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:27:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Cantilever spacers are an awesome idea.
Dying to pre order |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:00:00 PM EDT
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I'm in for two when I hear from someone that has played with this combine with NODs
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:33:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @marsh1 Besides weight, size and larger reticle, any advantage over my yet to be used green cyclops? FOV? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FOV? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @marsh1 Besides weight, size and larger reticle, any advantage over my yet to be used green cyclops? FOV? Reticle size too. The cheveron is supposed to be a bit bigger iirc. My issue with the original cyclops is my eyes would refocus and the cheveron would look like a dot So weird I know. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:10:38 PM EDT
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If it hasn't been asked already, what's the diopter adjustment range? Thx!
Tomac |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:12:46 PM EDT
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Dumb Question:
So if this were going on a 7.62x39 AK, Would I be better off with the 9mm Reticle or the standard one? Would the BDC on the Geminii be usable with that caliber? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:31:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dumb Question: So if this were going on a 7.62x39 AK, Would I be better off with the 9mm Reticle or the standard one? Would the BDC on the Geminii be usable with that caliber? Standard Cyclops G2 _Scan_0001.jpg) _Scan_0002.jpg)
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:19:11 AM EDT
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MSRP is on point.
Last question.. Does this come with any type of lens protection or will protection be available? |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 7:10:06 PM EDT
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Will be interested in seeing a comparison between this and the Swampfox Blade
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:52:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MSRP is on point. Last question.. Does this come with any type of lens protection or will protection be available? Comes with Bikini covers |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:29:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Comes with Bikini covers Sold!! Where can I preorder?
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sold!! Where can I preorder? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Comes with Bikini covers Sold!! Where can I preorder? |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:38:21 PM EDT
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I have two rifles with no optic. I want something like this. Had to sell my Eotech and Aimpoint. My brother in law just got his first rifle, so needing one for him. I have the PA MD one that had the NV issues. Never sent it back. Been fine because I had other optics. Now I don’t. So I am thinking a couple of these would be awesome.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:20:33 PM EDT
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Still no German #1 bars... but you kept ranging stadia on a 1x optic?
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