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Yes. You can focus the diopter to your eye. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are these better for astigmatism? ETA: Meant to say Naked Eye blur. For me, I can use them with corrective lenses. See my rambling below.. |
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Agreed. This is a godsend for those with astigmatism. Can't dial out the blur with RD's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are these better for astigmatism? Red dots were like a starburst for me. Now with the Cyclops i have a super crisp picture |
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+3 Red dots were like a starburst for me. Now with the Cyclops i have a super crisp picture View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm fortunate enough to still have use for my RD collection. I've got to wear my corrective glasses to get the "pin prick, best look" but so be it. They work well for range target use no doubt.
I've noticed that the units with push button intensity (Sig Romeo 5, 4S and Holosun HS512C) work best for me. The latest iteration of PA's 2MOA dial units are the worst in my eyes as the first non-NV setting of 3 is too bright (relatively speaking.) The push button units allow the minimum amount of illumination, which in-turn reduces dot blowout. They're all still viable for me, so I'll keep them. Options, and backup. |
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+4. Had to sell off all my red dots....1x prismatics are it for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are these better for astigmatism? Red dots were like a starburst for me. Now with the Cyclops i have a super crisp picture No idea why the circle dots look clearer to me than a single dot. |
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Just picked up a cyclops on the EE
It’s nice to be able to see a clear and crisp reticle. Astigmatisms suck. Reticle is tiny. The chevron doesnt look much like a chevron to me, more like a dot. I see its utility with the horseshoe for close and the chevron for further out. I may grab another. |
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Just picked up a cyclops on the EE It’s nice to be able to see a clear and crisp reticle. Astigmatisms suck. Reticle is tiny. The chevron doesnt look much like a chevron to me, more like a dot. I see its utility with the horseshoe for close and the chevron for further out. I may grab another. View Quote |
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Just picked up a cyclops on the EE It’s nice to be able to see a clear and crisp reticle. Astigmatisms suck. Reticle is tiny. The chevron doesnt look much like a chevron to me, more like a dot. I see its utility with the horseshoe for close and the chevron for further out. I may grab another. View Quote I think some folks try to use it as a precision type optic which it isnt. |
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Sooooo, are you using the magnifier to magnify the target image
or are you using the magnifier to magnify the reticle? |
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There have been complaints about the reticle... but IMO, that is because the user is using it incorrectly. The horseshoe acts much like a red dot. Place the horseshoe on a close in target and go. Use the chevron on more distant targets...where it won't obscure smaller aiming points. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just picked up a cyclops on the EE It’s nice to be able to see a clear and crisp reticle. Astigmatisms suck. Reticle is tiny. The chevron doesnt look much like a chevron to me, more like a dot. I see its utility with the horseshoe for close and the chevron for further out. I may grab another. |
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Sooooo, are you using the magnifier to magnify the target image or are you using the magnifier to magnify the reticle? View Quote Now that they're at a height I'm comfortable with I'm happy thus far. |
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I wonder if PA will introduce a LPVO with this same reticle. That would be nice.
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Would I be crazy to put one of these on an offset mount? I've been shooting with a PA 5x prism and a sig dot, not a fan of the sig though. I really appreciate the clarity and crispness of the PA reticle.
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It would be big, but I don't see why not View Quote |
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Approved as Duty Optic by Pasadena PD
Article Two Primary Arms Optics Products Granted Approval for Duty-Use by Pasadena Police
The SLx™ Compact 1×20 Prism Provides Close-Quarters Precision with ACSS Cyclops Reticle The SLx Advanced Push Button Microdot Offers a Lightweight Red Dot Sight with Rugged Body Both Optics were Field Tested and Highly Rated by the NTOA Earlier in 2019 HOUSTON, TEXAS – The City of Pasadena Police Department has approved two Primary Arms Optics for duty-use. This approval comes shortly after a similar approval letter from Missouri City Police Department, which issued Primary Arms Optics’ SLx 3x Prism on duty carbines. For Pasadena police, both the SLx Compact 1×20 Prism Scope and SLx Advanced Push Button Microdot are designed for superior performance in the close-quarters environments commonly faced by law enforcement. With months of field-testing of the NTOA certifying their effectiveness, these two optics ensure a quick sight picture with proven reliability. For Pasadena Officers looking to equip their rifles, these two optics will provide similar benefits in application, though each has its own benefits. The SLx Compact 1×20 Prism Scope (commonly known as the Cyclops) is a 1x Prism with an etched ACSS® reticle. This reticle can be set for multiple illumination settings, providing a clear point of aim—even to those with strong astigmatisms. For those who prefer a micro red dot sight, the SLx Advanced Push Button Microdot maintains a minimal footprint on a service rifle, though its durability and feature-set make it a strong competitor in the field. With 50,000 hours of average battery life and 12 illumination settings, this dot can be configurated to any conditions, including low light with NV compatibility. Regarding the SLx Compact 1×20 Prism Scope, the Pasadena PD Firearms Training Staff reports, “The ACSS reticle frames up the target well, which also aids in the fast acquisition of the target. The etched reticle allows use of the sight in the event that the battery goes out. This sight is a great value for the price.” Continuing, the staff further describes the SLx Advanced Push Button Microdot: “The 2MOA dot on this sight is very clear and easy to pick up. This not only allows for fast shots at close range, but also does not cover up too much of the target at extended ranges. The top mounted push button adjustments for brightness are very easy to use. This is in addition to the extended battery life, which makes this sight a great value.” Pasadena’s approval letter comes after the NTOA released its own evaluation of several Primary Arms Optics Products. Through rigorous real-world testing and evaluation, the NTOA awarded Primary Arms Optics 2 gold ratings as well as 4 silver ratings, signifying exceptional performance beyond a simple ‘pass’. With many departments now recognizing the importance of duty optics, Primary Arms will continue to expand its offerings to law enforcement, ensuring they receive best pricing and ample support through any major procurement. About Primary Arms Optics Started in 2007, Primary Arms Optics seek to provide the best optics you can get for any budget. Utilizing the highly regarded, repeatedly-proven ACSS® reticle, Primary Arms optics boast unparalleled precision and adaptability for superior performance across ranges. With four product series available (Classic, SLx, GLx, and PLx), anyone can afford to equip themselves with the latest in optics technology. In addition, every product is backed with Primary Arms’ total commitment to customer satisfaction. View Quote |
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Just picked up a cyclops on the EE It’s nice to be able to see a clear and crisp reticle. Astigmatisms suck. Reticle is tiny. The chevron doesnt look much like a chevron to me, more like a dot. I see its utility with the horseshoe for close and the chevron for further out. I may grab another. View Quote |
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I never really did give use impression..
Cyclops + Mini 3x = Granted this was at 25yds, but it worked out really nice with both @ L1/3 height. Cyclops is a keeper. I don't really need an FDE setup, but... |
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I read all this feedback about how good the glass is and how it would be great for my astigmatism, and I really want it to work. But I need a bold reticle. this was my suggestion in the old thread. Make the reticle with German #4 bars. it will grab the eye quickly. View Quote |
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Much better... ADM CASV QD T1 mount & L1/3 riser plate for the Cyclops came today, added the L1/3 riser plate to the Vortex 3x as well. They seem to align almost perfect.. I'm happy with it. Off to the range later this week to field test! https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spGox9T3R.jpg https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spCjx9T3R.jpg https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spgMx9T3R.jpg View Quote A question for you though. How hard is it to finagle the diopters of both to work with each other? As in, if you set the cyclops up for you to use on it's own, do you then have to change the diopter before you use the magnifier, or does the magnifier's diopter allow you to set up the magnifier to just work with the cyclops with no change to the cyclop's diopter? Also, how much leeway do you have in diopter movement on the magnifier? As in, if it's flipped to the side and banged around, and it's diopter inadvertantly gets turned, does it screw the sight picture up pretty badly because of the sight combination, or is it just a little fuzzy as if you had turned a diopter on a scope accidentally? Sorry if I've missed the answers if they were already given in the thread, and thanks! |
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Thank you for this and 6our other posts, this is a really interesting new optic setup! A question for you though. How hard is it to finagle the diopters of both to work with each other? As in, if you set the cyclops up for you to use on it's own, do you then have to change the diopter before you use the magnifier, or does the magnifier's diopter allow you to set up the magnifier to just work with the cyclops with no change to the cyclop's diopter? Also, how much leeway do you have in diopter movement on the magnifier? As in, if it's flipped to the side and banged around, and it's diopter inadvertantly gets turned, does it screw the sight picture up pretty badly because of the sight combination, or is it just a little fuzzy as if you had turned a diopter on a scope accidentally? Sorry if I've missed the answers if they were already given in the thread, and thanks! View Quote As for knocking the mag diopter out of adjustment, I've yet to do that. It's fairly stiff to turn. Again, who knows. I'm sure it could inadvertently move but I've not had that issue. |
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Most welcome. After initial adjustment of both diopters, for me at least, it works good both magnified and non-magnified without any further fiddling. YMMV, as everyone's eyes are different. I will say wearing my astigmatism corrective glassed still helps tremendously with this setup. As for knocking the mag diopter out of adjustment, I've yet to do that. It's fairly stiff to turn. Again, who knows. I'm sure it could inadvertently move but I've not had that issue. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thank you for this and 6our other posts, this is a really interesting new optic setup! A question for you though. How hard is it to finagle the diopters of both to work with each other? As in, if you set the cyclops up for you to use on it's own, do you then have to change the diopter before you use the magnifier, or does the magnifier's diopter allow you to set up the magnifier to just work with the cyclops with no change to the cyclop's diopter? Also, how much leeway do you have in diopter movement on the magnifier? As in, if it's flipped to the side and banged around, and it's diopter inadvertantly gets turned, does it screw the sight picture up pretty badly because of the sight combination, or is it just a little fuzzy as if you had turned a diopter on a scope accidentally? Sorry if I've missed the answers if they were already given in the thread, and thanks! As for knocking the mag diopter out of adjustment, I've yet to do that. It's fairly stiff to turn. Again, who knows. I'm sure it could inadvertently move but I've not had that issue. |
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then let me post it on this page too! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Cyclops_Acss_German_4_bars-983707.jpg View Quote |
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If the illumination was brighter would you still want the bars? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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then let me post it on this page too! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Cyclops_Acss_German_4_bars-983707.jpg |
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If the illumination was brighter would you still want the bars? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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then let me post it on this page too! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Cyclops_Acss_German_4_bars-983707.jpg |
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If the illumination was brighter would you still want the bars? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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then let me post it on this page too! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Cyclops_Acss_German_4_bars-983707.jpg Attached File |
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Offer it with your K.I.S.S. reticle (green illumination would be nice as well), and I would immediately buy three of them. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101434/904A37F0-71BF-4CCF-90A1-F2780906DF23_jpeg-1199579.JPG View Quote |
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Absolutely yes. I really only need illumination for nighttime, or on a dark background. the bars draw the eye very quickly to the center, and will be essential even if the battery were dead and I'm only using the etched reticle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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then let me post it on this page too! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Cyclops_Acss_German_4_bars-983707.jpg ETA on the next version? |
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I've been using two for some time now, I really like the reticle. The only change I'd make is to replace the ranging stadia w/close-in 5yd/15yd marks.
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No 'off' detents between illumination settings if not shake awake? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I've been using two for some time now, I really like the reticle. The only change I'd make is to replace the ranging stadia w/close-in 5yd/15yd marks. Tomac Tomac |
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I don't even use the illumination unless it's getting dark. Not an issue for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Our new LE focused GLX 2X being released at SHOT is the first GLX Prism scope. It has our newly designed daylight bright illumination technology that will carry over to the GLX version of the Cyclops coming later in the year. Also will have auto on auto off and our new mounting system. I will post full details in my SHOT update next week. https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/2X_zps7mrrowd1.jpg View Quote |
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Our new LE focused GLX 2X being released at SHOT is the first GLX Prism scope. It has our newly designed daylight bright illumination technology that will carry over to the GLX version of the Cyclops coming later in the year. Also will have auto on auto off and our new mounting system. I will post full details in my SHOT update next week. https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/2X_zps7mrrowd1.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Still a missed opportunity by PA to make a good product better. https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/2X_zps7mrrowd1.jpg |
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Quoted: Our new LE focused GLX 2X being released at SHOT is the first GLX Prism scope. It has our newly designed daylight bright illumination technology that will carry over to the GLX version of the Cyclops coming later in the year. Also will have auto on auto off and our new mounting system. I will post full details in my SHOT update next week. https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/2X_zps7mrrowd1.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: Our new LE focused GLX 2X being released at SHOT is the first GLX Prism scope. It has our newly designed daylight bright illumination technology that will carry over to the GLX version of the Cyclops coming later in the year. Also will have auto on auto off and our new mounting system. I will post full details in my SHOT update next week. https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/2X_zps7mrrowd1.jpg View Quote |
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Much better... ADM CASV QD T1 mount & L1/3 riser plate for the Cyclops came today, added the L1/3 riser plate to the Vortex 3x as well. They seem to align almost perfect.. I'm happy with it. Off to the range later this week to field test! https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spGox9T3R.jpg https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spCjx9T3R.jpg https://media.fotki.com/2v2H2spgMx9T3R.jpg View Quote I like lower 1/3. Do you think if I bought an absolute height t1 mount, it would mount it to lower 1/3? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I have no idea why PA just didnt use standard heights, although atleast they got the mounting pattern right. The verbiage they use on their site is confusing. Edit: Page two of the original thread seems to have answered my question: yes. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Anyone-get-the-Primary-Arms-Cyclops-1x-Etched-Glass-ACSS-yet-/5-2132806/?page=2 Now to buy this or wait for the 2x.... |
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