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Posted: 1/12/2013 4:02:34 AM EDT
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I finally got to try out my new 1-6x !
Below are a few details and pics for you: Rock River .308 LAR-8 16" barrel, 1-10 twist Federal Premium Match 175 gr. 1/2" - 3/4" groups @ 100 yards from the bench. Great scope, excellent reticle. I hope to wring it out to at least 800+ yards. I'll post more pics soon... http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0782_zpsae9fd72d.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0612_zpsd3cd3104.jpg |
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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:45:57 AM EDT
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Ed, it was a pleasure meeting you and your buddy at the Ventura show today. The optical clarity and build quality of your 1x6 is impressive. Hopefully will bump into you at SHOT.
Guys, it looks like a damn fine scope for the money, and the reticle is intuitive. I think this one is a winner. Amazing resoloution, definition and light transmission. No haze, just a sharp image. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 5:42:57 PM EDT
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who bought it and still likes it? is it definitely daylight visible and yes I've seen all the others videos. I cannot decide between the 1 to 6 or an elcan os4x fixed. I know they are completely different but this is a set up I'm shooting for. the elcan has left magnification but wow what an optic. Grsc a little more expensive when you include them out.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:46:43 AM EDT
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Zulu 77
Nice shooting! ! ! ! Recondodan It was a pleasure to meet you. I'm glad you liked the scope. FYI I will be at the Costa Mesa Ca. gun show this weekend. I will have the 1-6 CRS available for sale and demo. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 2/3/2013 4:27:22 PM EDT
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I'm finally getting around to posting in this thread. I've had my 1-6X for some time now and I'm thoroughly impressed. Optic quality is fantastic and the reticle is awesome and fast. I haven't been able to run any close-in drills, but on 1X this scope seems like a great compromise. Not quite as quick as the T1 on another rifle, but you can't have it all. I don't have any experience with it's direct competitors, but from my research Ed's creation is the winner every time in the 1-6X category. Funny how I'm seeing more and more reticles that are a close approximation to Ed's.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:23:42 AM EDT
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Funny how I'm seeing more and more reticles that are a close approximation to Ed's.
This is quite common now. A few reticles are decent but really, most are copies by people who did not understand what made the original good. Their results are often not really good for anything. That is the funny thing about copying somebody's work that you don't understand. Often what you end up with is not unlike what you would have if you randomly copied 1/3rd of the lines from an E.E. Cummings poem and pasted them in any old order. Anybody could tell that you copied Cummings work but nobody would call it poetry. |
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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:58:38 PM EDT
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I know that the bdc is calibrated for 62gr 5.56, but does anyone know how the BDC matches up with 308? Is there any published data on this for thehold overs at different ranges? I know that it will depend on the bullet and velocity, but any insight would be great to have as a starting point. Thanks!
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Posted: 2/8/2013 10:04:59 AM EDT
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I'm glad to see the positive reviews are still coming in on this scope. I have a KAC SR15 LPR on order and I've been looking for an optic for it. I want a 1-? that can go higher than 4x. I've tried the Leupold 1.5-5 demo unit at Cabela's, but I'm not a fan of it, and I really don't want to or see the need to spend for a nightforce, swarovski, or one of the other scopes that are $2k+... I agree with akflier; when you look at the market space and the offerings, Ed's scope has the best performance/dollar by a good margin.
I've been able to not order the scope yet because I don't have a rifle for it. But, my birthday is in a few weeks and I might have to order the CRS 1-6 and a MGM lever for myself. |
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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:30:57 PM EDT
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My latest endeavor...
Rock River 7.62, 16" barrel GRSC 1-6x scope Bobro QD mount My new Mako stock! Federal Premium Match 175 gr. @ 100 yards Average group size was about 3/4" (respectable). I hope to post some longer range groups in the near future! http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0831_zpse35d0651.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0870_zpsf1887fa1.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0835_zps65bc7b0e.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/IMAG0837_zpsee08fafe.jpg |
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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:01:51 PM EDT
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can someone please take some images of this scope from all sides close up. all the images are either on rifles from far away or on the GRSC website and the 1 on the website looks like a pre production sample
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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:46:46 PM EDT
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Here are some photos. This a production scope. My original review, middle of the page here, was with a prototype but these photos are of an early production run. The only difference between mine and the current ones is the turret caps. The current scopes have caps with spare battery compartments. I guess I have had this scope for almost 2 years now with no problems. I have gained enough confidence in it that I sold off my Leupold CQ/T a few months ago. I always liked the GRSC much better, that Leupold is a 10 year old design at this point and shows its age. It just took a while before I had enough confidence in the GRSC to let go of the security blanket. These close up photos should show the quality of construction pretty well.
How do you all like the new camera? I had it at this years Shot Show as well. It takes pretty good snapshots doesn't it? 
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Posted: 2/15/2013 11:35:08 AM EDT
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Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for. They need to put these on their site. I am going to have around 1300 to spend on an optic for my DD that will be here soon. I keep coming back to this. I talked with Ed early on. A little set back by the warranty of 2 years though. All these scopes look the same, it seems to come down to the rericle. Others I am still strongly considering are the leupold mr/t and the IOR 1.5-8.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 4:27:14 PM EDT
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Akflier
Nice looking set up,I'm glad you like the CRS. BigJIm Thanks for posting the pictures. Zog 117 If you call me I can answer your questions in detail. I hate to type ! ! ! Also I will be at the Phoenix gun show this weekend. If you make it to the show look me up, I will have the 1-6 CRS there. Zulu77 That stock looks interesting. I have to use a cheek riser on AR15 type rifles to get the proper cheek weld. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 3/4/2013 2:57:45 AM EDT
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FYI, Thought you might be interested in this:
Ed Verdugo grscinc.com Norden Performance Review My name is David Bailey, and I am a former 3rd SFG sniper, presently working for Teludyne Tech Industries, Inc. (TTI). Norden Performance was gracious enough to allow us to use their 1-6x 24mm CRS scope for testing with our Sine Pari M4 upper. In May of 2012 we were invited to Camp Roberts for SOCOM testing of our StraightJacket® Barrel System on our Sine Pari M4s, .300 Win Mag, and .308 Remington 700s. Utilizing the CRS scope on our M4 upper we were able to get results that boggled the minds of the snipers that had been tasked to test our products. The CRS scope has a very unique reticle which allows for rapid target engagement at CQB distances, but also affords the shooter with very accurate ranging capabilities out to 800 yards. During the SOCOM testing, shooters using our StraightJacket® Sine Pari M4, and the CRS scope, were able to do magazine dumps (30 rounds of 75 grain Black Hills ammo) on targets out to 785 meters! The snipers who shot this combination (StraightJacket® and CRS scope) were very impressed, but what blew their minds was when we put this same weapon in the hands of two inexperienced female shooters. These ladies were able to easily match the performance of these SOTIC trained snipers by firing 30 rounds into the same target at 785 meters by simply holding the 800 circle on top of the head of the silhouette. Using the hash marks left and right of the ranging circles, one could easily spot his/her round strike, and make accurate adjustments rapidly. The CRS scope was also sent for testing, while in TTI’s possession, to a SOF unit. Their results and comments mimicked the above statements with the additional comments of desiring the vertical and horizontal hash marks to be in mils for more accurate wind hold formulas. They loved the speed of the CRS’s engagement capabilities no matter the range. One comment that should also be mentioned is the exceptional quality of the glass being used in this scope. The clarity is so incredible that this 1-6 scope holds its own beside scopes with 8 power magnification. Another comment made by the SOF unit was the ease in which this scope can be taught to an individual to make them an effective designated marksman. SOF members were able to effectively and rapidly engage targets ranging from 100 to 800 using 77 grain OTM rounds (even though the CRS is designed for 62 grain M855). If you desire a high quality scope that provides ease of use, rapid accurate target engagement at any range between 0-800, with the high quality glass, Norden Performance’s CRS scope is an excellent choice. My saddest day in the past year was the day I had to send this scope back to Norden Performance! |
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Posted: 3/8/2013 3:20:03 PM EDT
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FYI
I will be at the Ventura Calif. gun show this weekend with the 1-6 CRS for sale and demo. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 3/29/2013 12:45:28 AM EDT
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I got to the range today with Andy, a guy that I met at the Costa Mesa gun show. He got to try out the 1-6 CRS on his new S&W M10. Very nice rifle, first group he shot was 1.25 inch at 100 yards with ultramax 168gr ammo.
Good shooting Andy!!!! FYI I will be at the Visalia Ca gun show this weekend with the 1-6 CRS on hand for sale and for demo. Hope to see you there! Here are some pictures of Andy shooting his new rife. 
Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 12:16:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Thanks Ed. Does it matter that there is a gap from the knob to the lever? By the way, I was shooting balloons on a line at 130yds up a steep hill with my 1-6x24 GRSC CRS. I have never had any formal "scope" training and I was able to zero and maintain 1/2 inch groups @ 100yrds. This scope is incredible! Everyone wanted to shoot and after 10secs of explaining the sight picture they were dead on! http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/ccline3/kellycrs1s_zps53fbe44f.jpg Spinner We have had the rifle with the switchview out in the field several times. The gap does not affect anything in a negative way. I think the lever is to tall as it can snag on your LBE gear. I have heard MGM is now making that unit with a shorter lever. I think that would be better in the field. I like the looks of your rifle. Provided it is reliable and accurate it looks like a good set up for a .308 rifle. Ed Verdugo grscinc.com Yep, the Switchview that is currently listed for the GRSC does, indeed, have a shorter lever. Look at this picture, notice there are only 3 holes in the lever of this model vs, the 4 holes that were in the previous model.  |
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Posted: 4/29/2013 12:55:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: I got to the range today with Andy, a guy that I met at the Costa Mesa gun show. He got to try out the 1-6 CRS on his new S&W M10. Very nice rifle, first group he shot was 1.25 inch at 100 yards with ultramax 168gr ammo. Good shooting Andy!!!! FYI I will be at the Visalia Ca gun show this weekend with the 1-6 CRS on hand for sale and for demo. Hope to see you there! Here are some pictures of Andy shooting his new rife. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/grscguns/photo_zpsc96ea43b.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/grscguns/photo2_zpsf63e1c01.jpg Ed Verdugo grscinc.com Very nice and I bet he could get under 1inch next time. |
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Posted: 5/1/2013 11:26:28 PM EDT
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Jukeboxx13
I have been very impressed with the accuracy of the new breed of .308 AR platform rifles. A week after I shot with Andy I met a young former Marine at the same range. He was sighting in his new Sig 716 at 100yds using reloaded ammo with a very nice Nightforce sniper scope. His groups were 3-4" and he was disappointed. I told him I didn't think it was him or the scope/rifle. I felt it was probably the ammo. I gave him 3rds of FGMM 168gr. He put them into a 5/8" hole. All of the Sig 716s we have tested have been right at MOA or better @ 100 yds with match ammo. I will try to get a picture up of this group up when I get back home. I'm on my way to the gun show in Oklahoma city this week end. I will be set up there. Hope to see some people from ARFCOM there. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 5/2/2013 3:15:17 PM EDT
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First I would like to thank Ed for going out on a limb and offering such a great optic! Second I would like to thank BigJimFish for his awesome reviews of this optic and other optics in his threads.
I recently sold a Nightforce so I could afford a 1-6 CRS. At first I was nervous as to whether I was making a sound decision or not, however once I looked through the GRSC, I knew I made the correct choice. Not only is it clearer and brighter, I really like the reticle and FFP. I am hooked on FFP optics and will never go back to a SFP optic. For those of you on the fence I understand however once you use one of these you instantly understand how great it truly is. I have shot with this optic at unknown distances up to 200 meters with great results. I only wish I could afford several of these scopes as I would like to put one on a tactical 22 and another on a bolt action hunting rifle. For those who are active duty Norden Performance offers a slight discount, all you have to do is prove your AD status. Lastly, I am writhing this as a consumer; I have zero ties to Ed or Norden Performance. I am adding my .02 to help others and to let it be known there is someone else who is extremely satisfied with this scope. |
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Posted: 5/2/2013 3:59:01 PM EDT
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I recently sold a Nightforce so I could afford a 1-6 CRS. At first I was nervous as to whether I was making a sound decision or not, however once I looked through the GRSC, I knew I made the correct choice. Not only is it clearer and brighter, I really like the reticle and FFP. I am hooked on FFP optics and will never go back to a SFP optic. For those of you on the fence I understand however once you use one of these you instantly understand how great it truly is. I talked to Ed on the phone to order the GRSC receiver sling mount 'endplate' for an a2 buttstock and he told me about the scope, and gave me a link to check it out. I've had my eye on it ever since. I know he designed the scope so I expected him to talk it up, but after I listened to everything he had to say, reading peoples reviews of the scope, especially ret. military, it seems like the scope is worth every single penny...not to mention a lot of 'name brand' optic companies are starting to copy his reticle. I have some guns that I never shoot (Keltecs) but apparently some people are infatuated with them. Been thinking about selling one or 2 and partially funding one to put on my 16" middy 
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Posted: 5/3/2013 2:16:54 PM EDT
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Well, this is my first post on this forum. I just ordered the GRSC 1-6x24 scope along with the recommended MGM Switchview. Can't wait to get it and try it out!!
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Posted: 5/3/2013 6:38:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sounds like he had a bad day till you came along, and he will probably be loading 168gr from now on.Jukeboxx13 I have been very impressed with the accuracy of the new breed of .308 AR platform rifles. A week after I shot with Andy I met a young former Marine at the same range. He was sighting in his new Sig 716 at 100yds using reloaded ammo with a very nice Nightforce sniper scope. His groups were 3-4" and he was disappointed. I told him I didn't think it was him or the scope/rifle. I felt it was probably the ammo. I gave him 3rds of FGMM 168gr. He put them into a 5/8" hole. All of the Sig 716s we have tested have been right at MOA or better @ 100 yds with match ammo. I will try to get a picture up of this group up when I get back home. I'm on my way to the gun show in Oklahoma city this week end. I will be set up there. Hope to see some people from ARFCOM there. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com What bullet weight was he shooting?
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Posted: 5/8/2013 12:56:24 AM EDT
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Sounds like he had a bad day till you came along, and he will probably be loading 168gr from now on.Jukeboxx13 I have been very impressed with the accuracy of the new breed of .308 AR platform rifles. A week after I shot with Andy I met a young former Marine at the same range. He was sighting in his new Sig 716 at 100yds using reloaded ammo with a very nice Nightforce sniper scope. His groups were 3-4" and he was disappointed. I told him I didn't think it was him or the scope/rifle. I felt it was probably the ammo. I gave him 3rds of FGMM 168gr. He put them into a 5/8" hole. All of the Sig 716s we have tested have been right at MOA or better @ 100 yds with match ammo. I will try to get a picture up of this group up when I get back home. I'm on my way to the gun show in Oklahoma city this week end. I will be set up there. Hope to see some people from ARFCOM there. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com What bullet weight was he shooting?
Jukeboxx13 The were not his hand loads. They were 150 gr loads that he bought at a gun show.. Here is a couple of pictures of the group he shot with the 168 FGMM. Ed Verdugo grscinc.com  
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Posted: 5/23/2013 5:07:15 PM EDT
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Went to the range yesterday with the F+D .308 and the SIG 716. I accidently dropped my Sig 716 muzzle first onto a concrete floor from about 3ft. wanted to see if I had a shift in zero. The drop did not seem to affect zero or accuracy of the rifle.
I haven't had a chance to shoot the F+D .308 very much. I really like this rifle, but the more I shoot the Sig 716 and compare it to the other test rifles the more I think it is a best buy for the price combined with the features and performance it offers. It also seems that the FGMM 168 gr seems to group better at 100 yds in all the rifles tested than the FGMM 175 gr ammo. All groups were fired resting the forearm on a ammo can/sand bag and using a sand bag for support on the buttstock (see picture). Wind was about 5-10 mph left to right. Here are some pictures. 
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Posted: 5/29/2013 11:49:22 AM EDT
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Will this scope accept a killflash? Is the illuminated reticle visible down range by the "enemy"?
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Posted: 5/31/2013 7:39:05 PM EDT
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Will this scope accept a killflash? Is the illuminated reticle visible down range by the "enemy"? MIles Thank you for your service to our country! ! ! The front of the scope is 30mm. If trenebrax makes a slide on 30 mm killflash it should fit. Yes the illuminations is visible from the front but in a low light shooting situation the illumination will be set a low setting or it will wash out the target. At a low illumination setting it is very hard to see the illumination if you are farther than about 25 yds and you also have to be aligned with the scope tube. If your using the scope with a clip on NVD such as a PVS 22 you will not need the illumination at all and also the scope will be behind the NVD so if you do use illumination it will be blocked by the NVD. If you are in a dynamic CQB situation with the illumination set on a high setting because the environment your in is well lit, then your enemy will be able to see you much better than the illumination visible from the front of the scope. We tried using the scope with a helmet mounted NVG set up but this is way to slow to be practical. Major alignment/eye relief problems (NVG with scope). If your eyes allow it you can cover the front objective and use the scope as a OEG. This is very fast for people who can use this technique and of course there is no front illumination signature. Also when using with white light you will have to experiment with different techniques to best suit your needs. This scope is just like any other tool in the box in this regard, you must learn its strengths and weaknesses and use it to gain a advantage over your enemy. FYI I will be at the gun show in Costa Mesa Calif this weekend with 1-6 CRS's for demo and sale. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 6/11/2013 2:20:43 AM EDT
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Hi Ed,
I'm happy with my new Rock River 7.62 and the new 1-6x scope. Thanks for the nice targets, ammo and tips on building the target frames! Here are some details on the pics below: Rock River 7.62, 16" barrel Ultramax 168 gr. 100 yards, off the bench http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range1_zpse707e443.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range3_zps3ec19d12.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range5_zps70dedb25.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range6_zpsb39156e0.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range6_zpsb39156e0.jpg http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h447/zulu-77/range7_zps56f9d270.jpg |
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Posted: 7/3/2013 2:26:52 AM EDT
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Zulu-77
That is some good shooting. I had very similar results with the .308 RR elite operator I was testing. In my limited testing the RR has proven to be reliable and very accurate and I like the fact that it uses the FAL mag. I think this makes a very good GP battle carbine with the 1-6 CRS. FYI I will be at the following gun shows with the 1-6 CRS to demo. July 6&7, Fort Worth TX. July 13&14, Topeka Kansas, and July 20& 21 Amarillo TX. Hope to see some ARF15.COMMERS at some of the shows. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:28:33 PM EDT
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Recently went out to a range near Castaic Ca. The farthest target out is a 21" W by 35" L hanging steel target at a distance of 1025 yds. I've been wondering what the effective range of these 16" barreled .308 rifles would be. First let me state what I mean by effective range . When I was in the military I was taught the definition for effective range was " the distance at which the average shooter hits the target the majority of the time". I'm talking hits only not terminal ballistics.
I used my SIG 716 with a 16" 1 in ten twist. This rifle has a RR 2 stage NM chrome trigger. Other than that it is off the shelf. Ammo used was FGMM 7.62x51 175gr. It was late afternoon with no wind. Aiming center mass on the steel plate and using the 800 yd. 10" hollow circle as my aiming point I dialed up 24 clicks of elevation. This put me dead on at 1025 yds.. I told my spotter, " lets go for effective range by definition". Ten shots. He called 6 hits for sure and was pretty sure there was a seventh hit. Drove out to check and paint the target. The target had 28 hits total (remember I was adjusting my elevation turret). Painted the target and drove back to the shooting bench. Did three more strings of 5 shots (ammo is $1.50 per shot  ) and was able to maintain effective range. Got dark, went home.
Two weeks later went out and was able to maintain effective range shooting 5 shot strings with the same Sig 716 and a RR 16" 1 in 10" barrel. Same target, distance and ammo but this time we had to play with wind. We were still getting 3 out of 5 hits on target. This time we also had a smaller more ergo correct human steel target that measured 15"W by 37" long. I will post pictures as soon as I can get one of the kids to do it. Based on the information above, I have convinced my partners at Norden Performance LLC to produce a new reticle for the 1-6 CRS calibrated for the 175 gr. FGMM out of a 16" 1 in 10 twist .308 barrel. This is already in the works. ETA----? Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com nordenperformance.com |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:13:54 PM EDT
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Take. My. Money. I will be a user of a 308 GRSC site.
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Posted: 8/18/2013 10:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Recently went out to a range near Castaic Ca. The farthest target out is a 21" W by 35" L hanging steel target at a distance of 1025 yds. I've been wondering what the effective range of these 16" barreled .308 rifles would be. First let me state what I mean by effective range . When I was in the military I was taught the definition for effective range was " the distance at which the average shooter hits the target the majority of the time". I'm talking hits only not terminal ballistics. I used my SIG 716 with a 16" 1 in ten twist. This rifle has a RR 2 stage NM chrome trigger. Other than that it is off the shelf. Ammo used was FGMM 7.62x51 175gr. It was late afternoon with no wind. Aiming center mass on the steel plate and using the 800 yd. 10" hollow circle as my aiming point I dialed up 24 clicks of elevation. This put me dead on at 1025 yds.. I told my spotter, " lets go for effective range by definition". Ten shots. He called 6 hits for sure and was pretty sure there was a seventh hit. Drove out to check and paint the target. The target had 28 hits total (remember I was adjusting my elevation turret). Painted the target and drove back to the shooting bench. Did three more strings of 5 shots (ammo is $1.50 per shot ) and was able to maintain effective range. Got dark, went home.
Two weeks later went out and was able to maintain effective range shooting 5 shot strings with the same Sig 716 and a RR 16" 1 in 10" barrel. Same target, distance and ammo but this time we had to play with wind. We were still getting 3 out of 5 hits on target. This time we also had a smaller more ergo correct human steel target that measured 15"W by 37" long. I will post pictures as soon as I can get one of the kids to do it. Based on the information above, I have convinced my partners at Norden Performance LLC to produce a new reticle for the 1-6 CRS calibrated for the 175 gr. FGMM out of a 16" 1 in 10 twist .308 barrel. This is already in the works. ETA----? Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com nordenperformance.com Ok here are the pictures of the targets we were shooting at 1025 yds. We were shooting five shot strings. As I said before we had to play with the wind(note the red ribbon above the target.  " />
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Posted: 8/19/2013 12:17:58 AM EDT
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With a 1-6x at 1k with 16inch .308.
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Posted: 8/19/2013 9:07:31 AM EDT
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Are these ITAR approved for export?
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Posted: 8/29/2013 3:55:33 PM EDT
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Are these ITAR approved for export? Ar180 I checked with Hinman at Norden Performance and he said that he thinks we can ship to Canada. If you are interested contact him at Norden Performance. Got out to the 1000 yd. range again last week. This time we wanted to test the PVS 22 with the 1-6 CRS on the Sig 716 on the 1025 yd. target. We were able to hit the target several times but not able to establish effective range at 1025 yds. We could not see the impact of the misses and that made it hard to adjust our aiming point. You can see a picture of the PVS 22 mounted on the LMT MWS on page three of this thread. Also someone had painted the steel target black so we were able to see how well the black reticle (no illumination) showed up on the black target. We had no problem seeing any part of the reticle on the black steel in day light conditions. At dark under the light of that night we could just barely make out the target at 1025 yds. but we could see the black reticle in the green NV scope just fine. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com nordenperformance.com |
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Posted: 8/31/2013 3:35:12 AM EDT
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Just thinking out loud but, have you thought of a ffp milldot reticle scope with a higher magnification and the rule of 10 circles off to the side for fast ranging for precision shooting? So if you know the drop for your load and rifle combo and you can range with the rule of 10 circles you can get your holdover faster.
Say you see a target, you "range" it at 600 yards by putting the correct circle on the target. You know for your rifle/load you need X mills holdover for 600 yards. Put the milldot on the target and squeeze. Does that make sense at all? Patent Pending© 
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Posted: 9/13/2013 7:45:18 AM EDT
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Just thinking out loud but, have you thought of a ffp milldot reticle scope with a higher magnification and the rule of 10 circles off to the side for fast ranging for precision shooting? So if you know the drop for your load and rifle combo and you can range with the rule of 10 circles you can get your holdover faster. Say you see a target, you "range" it at 600 yards by putting the correct circle on the target. You know for your rifle/load you need X mills holdover for 600 yards. Put the milldot on the target and squeeze. Does that make sense at all? Patent Pending© Mizzarley I'm sorry I wasn't able to get back to you sooner. Been real busy lately, and I'm just leaving for a gun show in Tucson Az this weekend. You ask a good question and I will try to find time to answer it when I get back from the gun show. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 4:24:05 AM EDT
[#38]
Thanks Ed. I'm currently saving my pennys for one of your scopes.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Hey Ed - any chance of producing a version of your scope for a .308/7.62 Nato rifle. I have a SCAR 17 that's really looking for a good scope.
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Posted: 10/1/2013 12:23:10 AM EDT
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Hey Ed - any chance of producing a version of your scope for a .308/7.62 Nato rifle. I have a SCAR 17 that's really looking for a good scope. Jaypkay Yes, we are currently working on a reticle calibrated for the 175gr M118LR fired from a battle carbine with a 16" 1 in 10 barrel. The reticle will have a couple of minor changes but will use the current concept/design. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 10/1/2013 12:42:16 AM EDT
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Just thinking out loud but, have you thought of a ffp milldot reticle scope with a higher magnification and the rule of 10 circles off to the side for fast ranging for precision shooting? So if you know the drop for your load and rifle combo and you can range with the rule of 10 circles you can get your holdover faster. Say you see a target, you "range" it at 600 yards by putting the correct circle on the target. You know for your rifle/load you need X mills holdover for 600 yards. Put the milldot on the target and squeeze. Does that make sense at all? Patent Pending© Mizzarley Thank you for your suggestions. Believe me many different designs were considered for this project. Right now our funds are limited so we can only put a limited number of irons in the fire. The more I use the Rule Of 10 the more I like it and I think it will prove to be even more versatile than I first imagined. I can't go into detail about possible new designs because as you may be aware, a lot of people/companies like to borrow my designs .
Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 10/1/2013 2:40:36 AM EDT
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Have you guys done any durability tests that you can publish? Sorry if I've missed them, I have yet to see one done, and I've been watching this scope on and off for a few months...
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Posted: 10/3/2013 3:15:23 PM EDT
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Have you guys done any durability tests that you can publish? Sorry if I've missed them, I have yet to see one done, and I've been watching this scope on and off for a few months... Hobo We are a very small company. If you know the back ground behind the development of this scope/project you may be some what aware of what it has taken to get this scope into production. To answer your question, no we have not done durability tests independent of the factory that produces these scopes for us. The factory tells us these scopes are rated to withstand recoil to 800 G and water proof to 3 meters. When we first met face to face with the owner and some of the engineers of the company that makes these scope for us it was made very clear that these scopes were intended for real combat and that the durability of the scope was paramount. We have been selling the scopes for just over two years and have had only one scope returned due to a mechanical problem. It had a problem with the illumination. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 2:45:25 AM EDT
[#44]
Cool, thanks for the info, man.
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Posted: 10/5/2013 8:30:45 PM EDT
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Hi Ed,
I would like to buy another 1-6X scope from you. Do you have a table at the Ontario gun show this weekend? How is the new .308 reticule coming along ? When will it be available? Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/6/2013 1:47:57 AM EDT
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Hi Ed, I would like to buy another 1-6X scope from you. Do you have a table at the Ontario gun show this weekend? How is the new .308 reticule coming along ? When will it be available? Thanks! Zulu No. I did not have time to do the Ontario gun show this weekend. It would be best to order from Norden Performance. We are still working on the .308 reticle. I'm sorry but I really don't know how long it will be before it is in production. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 10/6/2013 1:51:12 AM EDT
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Cool, thanks for the info, man. Hobo Your welcome. I take it your a vet. If so, THANK YOU ! ! ! for your service to our country. Ed |
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Posted: 10/9/2013 4:36:33 AM EDT
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Mizzarley Thank you for your suggestions. Believe me many different designs were considered for this project. Right now our funds are limited so we can only put a limited number of irons in the fire. The more I use the Rule Of 10 the more I like it and I think it will prove to be even more versatile than I first imagined. I can't go into detail about possible new designs because as you may be aware, a lot of people/companies like to borrow my designs .
Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just thinking out loud but, have you thought of a ffp milldot reticle scope with a higher magnification and the rule of 10 circles off to the side for fast ranging for precision shooting? So if you know the drop for your load and rifle combo and you can range with the rule of 10 circles you can get your holdover faster. Say you see a target, you "range" it at 600 yards by putting the correct circle on the target. You know for your rifle/load you need X mills holdover for 600 yards. Put the milldot on the target and squeeze. Does that make sense at all? Patent Pending© Mizzarley Thank you for your suggestions. Believe me many different designs were considered for this project. Right now our funds are limited so we can only put a limited number of irons in the fire. The more I use the Rule Of 10 the more I like it and I think it will prove to be even more versatile than I first imagined. I can't go into detail about possible new designs because as you may be aware, a lot of people/companies like to borrow my designs .
Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com Awesome news! Keep us updated.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 11:52:48 AM EDT
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FYI
If any of you are in the Oklahoma City area I will be at the gun show this weekend that is being held at the fairgrounds. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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Posted: 10/18/2013 12:56:31 AM EDT
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FYI
I will be at the gun show in Amarillo Texas this weekend. I will have the 1-6 CRS on hand to sell and demo. Hope to see some of you there. Thanks Ed Verdugo grscinc.com |
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