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Posted: 4/8/2006 5:14:49 PM EDT

Well,
Simply put...My son and I were shooting today, and he felt like he needed to adjust my Aimpoint

I almost feel like it is at the point of no return

I have tried and tried to get this back on track, but I ran out of daylight.....It is so far out of whack, it is not even on the paper

Please help, I am pulling my hair out!
I wonder if something is broken???????????????
It was previously sighted in at 50 yards, and I have close to 1000 rounds through it, and it has been perfect!
Thanks,
Sean

Posted: 4/8/2006 5:48:26 PM EDT

[#1]

Turn Dial All the way until it stops moving.

Then turn backward, counting the clicks it takes to get to other end.

Take that number and divide it by 2 (TWO). Then go back that many clicks and your at the factory zero.

Posted: 4/8/2006 6:48:34 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Turn Dial All the way until it stops moving.

Then turn backward, counting the clicks it takes to get to other end.

Take that number and divide it by 2 (TWO). Then go back that many clicks and your at the factory zero.

+1

or just line it up with your irons

Posted: 4/8/2006 6:53:41 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Turn Dial All the way until it stops moving.

Then turn backward, counting the clicks it takes to get to other end.

Take that number and divide it by 2 (TWO). Then go back that many clicks and your at the factory zero.

Yup thats the way to do it.

Posted: 4/9/2006 6:18:32 AM EDT

[#4]

Hopefully you had some irons/BUIS that cowitnessed and you can just get it back on track with your irons. Otherwise, start counting clicks.

Posted: 4/9/2006 6:22:38 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Turn Dial All the way until it stops moving.

Then turn backward, counting the clicks it takes to get to other end.

Take that number and divide it by 2 (TWO). Then go back that many clicks and your at the factory zero.

Yup thats the way to do it.

Actually, kids, that would be your "mechanical zero". To get your "factory zero" back, you need to know what Aimpoint sets their Aimpointers at. Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

Posted: 4/9/2006 6:31:18 AM EDT

[#6]

Thanks folks :-)
No BUIS on this one

Sean

Posted: 4/9/2006 7:30:42 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Actually, kids, that would be your "mechanical zero". To get your "factory zero" back, you need to know what Aimpoint sets their Aimpointers at. Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

Thank you for your wise words Nationwide. Now if you have nothing to add to the OPs ?. I suggest you go troll your normal turf. Which BTW is not the Tech forums........So beat feet.

GD is up and to the right.

Posted: 4/9/2006 7:35:29 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Actually, kids, that would be your "mechanical zero". To get your "factory zero" back, you need to know what Aimpoint sets their Aimpointers at. Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

Thank you for your wise words Nationwide. Now if you have nothing to add to the OPs ?. I suggest you go troll your normal turf. Which BTW is not the Tech forums........So beat feet.

GD is up and to the right.

WTF???

Better check again... my post is both technically accurate and sophmorically humerous.

Posted: 4/9/2006 8:37:11 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Turn Dial All the way until it stops moving.

Then turn backward, counting the clicks it takes to get to other end.

Take that number and divide it by 2 (TWO). Then go back that many clicks and your at the factory zero.

Yup thats the way to do it.

Actually, kids, that would be your "mechanical zero". To get your "factory zero" back, you need to know what Aimpoint sets their Aimpointers at. Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

What

Mechanical Zero pertains to the irons sights on an AR/M16 weapon. All the poster is trying to do is get his Aimpoint dot back to a setting reasonable enough to begin re-zeroing it.

Tell us how Aimpoint “adjusts” their optics to the 5.56mm round? I can take an ML2/M2 and mount it on ANY weapons platform I wish! 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm it doesn’t matter!!!!!

Posted: 4/9/2006 8:47:31 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
What

Mechanical Zero pertains to the irons sights on an AR/M16 weapon. All the poster is trying to do is get his Aimpoint dot back to a setting reasonable enough to begin re-zeroing it.

Tell us how Aimpoint “adjusts” their optics to the 5.56mm round? I can take an ML2/M2 and mount it on ANY weapons platform I wish! 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm it doesn’t matter!!!!!

The concept of mechanical zero applies to ANY sighting system in which there is provision for adjustment in any axis. Windage, elevation, whatever. Irregardles what the sighting system consists of. The previous statement of "counting the total clicks and divide by two" is indeed mechanical zero.

Adjustment to a particular round is simple. Standard optic, standard height above the bore and standard ammunition = aproximate standard point of impact. Then, you adjust the optic from it's mechanical zero to the actual zero ie. point of aim = point of impact.

ETA: Do you move your Aimpoint around without re-zeroing it???

ETA: I never said Aimpoint factory adjusts for a 5.56mm round, but I did ask the question, how are they adjusted when the scope leaves the factory. RIF

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:21:30 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
ETA: Do you move your Aimpoint around without re-zeroing it???

ETA: I never said Aimpoint factory adjusts for a 5.56mm round, but I did ask the question, how are they adjusted when the scope leaves the factory. RIF

First: What does removing and reinstalling have to do with the posters original question.

Second: Sure sounds like what your saying here. Don’t know any other way to interpret it.

Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

I’m not going to debate with you on the technical meaning of “mechanical zero”. Sure, you can technically “mechanically zero” any optic system weather it’s iron sights or glass optics.

You make mention of a "factory zero". I’m sure in Aimpoints manufacturing process there is a point where the adjustment range of the optic is checked and then the dot re-centered. And I bet you that it’s basically the same procedure as what has been suggested at the beginning of the thread.

The poster needed a simple procedure to bring his Aimpoint back on paper and that is what he received, a simple, proven procedure.

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:29:46 AM EDT

[#12]

Thanks again guys...I am back in action and dead on at 50

Sean

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:32:45 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
ETA: Do you move your Aimpoint around without re-zeroing it???

ETA: I never said Aimpoint factory adjusts for a 5.56mm round, but I did ask the question, how are they adjusted when the scope leaves the factory. RIF

First: What does removing and reinstalling have to do with the posters original question.

Nothing, it has to do with the subsequent statement about moving the optik to various weapon platforms.

Second: Sure sounds like what your saying here. Don’t know any other way to interpret it.
Remember, many of these uber-tacticool optiks come adjusted for 5.56mm ammo from the factory

And the Aimpoint is ONE of many. That does not mean that it is THE ONE that is factory preset, does it? My ACOG is factory set, my EOTech required sighting in.

I’m not going to debate with you on the technical meaning of “mechanical zero”. Sure, you can technically “mechanically zero” any optic system weather it’s iron sights or glass optics.

I thought this was a technical forum. That's what BOOM scolded me for. Did they move this thread???

You make mention of a "factory zero". I’m sure in Aimpoints manufacturing process there is a point where the adjustment range of the optic is checked and then the dot re-centered. And I bet you that it’s basically the same procedure as what has been suggested at the beginning of the thread.

I don't work at Aimpoint building Aimpointers. So, your guess is as good as mine!

The poster needed a simple procedure to bring his Aimpoint back on paper and that is what he received, a simple, proven procedure.

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:48:48 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Thanks again guys...I am back in action and dead on at 50

Sean

Irish317 excellent, glad we could help.

Nationwide beat feet your a .......

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:49:53 AM EDT

[#15]

I see no subsequent statement about moving optics.

Well gee, I thought the subject here was Aimpoints and not ACOG’s.

The procedures suggested worked, as we all knew. And I’m through with the “bickering” and “picking apart” of each others statements.

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:54:00 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks again guys...I am back in action and dead on at 50

Sean

Irish317 excellent, glad we could help.

Nationwide beat feet your a .......

6.) Repeatedly attacking or insulting a person in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have a right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner.

Posted: 4/9/2006 9:55:46 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I see no subsequent statement about moving optics.

Well gee, I thought the subject here was Aimpoints and not ACOG’s.

The procedures suggested worked, as we all knew. And I’m through with the “bickering” and “picking apart” of each others statements.

Right here...

Tell us how Aimpoint “adjusts” their optics to the 5.56mm round? I can take an ML2/M2 and mount it on ANY weapons platform I wish! 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm it doesn’t matter!!!!!

ETA: Each of those rounds have different external ballistics, and re-zero of the optik would be ncessary.

Posted: 4/9/2006 10:11:54 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What

Mechanical Zero pertains to the irons sights on an AR/M16 weapon. All the poster is trying to do is get his Aimpoint dot back to a setting reasonable enough to begin re-zeroing it.

Tell us how Aimpoint “adjusts” their optics to the 5.56mm round? I can take an ML2/M2 and mount it on ANY weapons platform I wish! 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm it doesn’t matter!!!!!

The concept of mechanical zero applies to ANY sighting system in which there is provision for adjustment in any axis. Windage, elevation, whatever. Irregardles what the sighting system consists of. The previous statement of "counting the total clicks and divide by two" is indeed mechanical zero.

Adjustment to a particular round is simple. Standard optic, standard height above the bore and standard ammunition = aproximate standard point of impact. Then, you adjust the optic from it's mechanical zero to the actual zero ie. point of aim = point of impact.

ETA: Do you move your Aimpoint around without re-zeroing it???

ETA: I never said Aimpoint factory adjusts for a 5.56mm round, but I did ask the question, how are they adjusted when the scope leaves the factory. RIF

Not a word...and spelled wrong at that (if a non-word can be spelled wrong).

Posted: 4/9/2006 2:56:48 PM EDT

[#19]

Irish,

I Know you have your zero again but...

an easy way to do this is the old school boresight method.

take your upper off the lower, remove the BC. Set up a target(any object will do) at say 25 yds. Place the upper on some sand bags, rifle rest, range bag anything that will hold it fairly steady... now look down the bore and line up your target/object... it's easier than it may sound... once you see your target through the bore, pop your head up and see where the dot/crosshairs are in relation to your target without moving the upper... line the 2 up and you have a down and dirty bore sight that will put you on paper... no counting... recountinghis
John

Posted: 4/9/2006 2:57:08 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks again guys...I am back in action and dead on at 50

Sean

Irish317 excellent, glad we could help.

Nationwide beat feet your a .......

Look - all nationwide said is that if you want a FACTORY zero, then you'd have to know what Aimpoint ships their scopes from the FACTORY. Obviously your instructions for a MECHANICAL zero are valid, but *may* not correspond to the FACTORY zero. Splitting hairs maybe, but it could be important if Aimpoint sends out their scopes in anything other than a MECHANICAL zero. The original poster did ask for the factory zero after all.

Posted: 4/9/2006 3:18:34 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
I almost feel like it is at the point of no return I have tried and tried to get this back on track, but I ran out of daylight.....It is so far out of whack, it is not even on the paper
Please help, I am pulling my hair out!

When somebody cranks the target turrets around on my NightForce, (why do people think if an optic has turrets, they are like a volume control??), I start at about 10 yards to figure out which way to start cranking backwards. Once I am within 2" at 10 yards, I go to 25, get it close, then go to 100.

Sometimes faster than going end to end on both windage & elevation, normally only one is so far off you can't tell which way it is missing the paper (like dumping it over the berm...)

Posted: 4/9/2006 3:20:33 PM EDT

[#22]

One of the best ways I've come across to determine where the hell your POI is when you've seriously screwed the pooch with your adjustments is to use a laser boresighter. It'll get you close again real quick.

Posted: 4/9/2006 4:13:19 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Irish,

I Know you have your zero again but...

an easy way to do this is the old school boresight method.

take your upper off the lower, remove the BC. Set up a target(any object will do) at say 25 yds. Place the upper on some sand bags, rifle rest, range bag anything that will hold it fairly steady... now look down the bore and line up your target/object... it's easier than it may sound... once you see your target through the bore, pop your head up and see where the dot/crosshairs are in relation to your target without moving the upper... line the 2 up and you have a down and dirty bore sight that will put you on paper... no counting... recounting

obviously this only works on rifles that you can see down the bore...

John

Thanks Schultz :-)

Posted: 4/9/2006 4:19:52 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I almost feel like it is at the point of no return I have tried and tried to get this back on track, but I ran out of daylight.....It is so far out of whack, it is not even on the paper
Please help, I am pulling my hair out!

When somebody cranks the target turrets around on my NightForce, (why do people think if an optic has turrets, they are like a volume control??), I start at about 10 yards to figure out which way to start cranking backwards. Once I am within 2" at 10 yards, I go to 25, get it close, then go to 100.

Sometimes faster than going end to end on both windage & elevation, normally only one is so far off you can't tell which way it is missing the paper (like dumping it over the berm...)

Why do people think the knobs are volume control?????? Sheesh....

Sean

Posted: 4/9/2006 5:40:45 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I almost feel like it is at the point of no return I have tried and tried to get this back on track, but I ran out of daylight.....It is so far out of whack, it is not even on the paper
Please help, I am pulling my hair out!

When somebody cranks the target turrets around on my NightForce, (why do people think if an optic has turrets, they are like a volume control??), I start at about 10 yards to figure out which way to start cranking backwards. Once I am within 2" at 10 yards, I go to 25, get it close, then go to 100.

Sometimes faster than going end to end on both windage & elevation, normally only one is so far off you can't tell which way it is missing the paper (like dumping it over the berm...)

Why do people think the knobs are volume control?????? Sheesh....

Sean

They should make them a "clicker" like a thumb-bicycle shifter.

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