BUIS and other possible taken military optics, how do you know its clean?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BUIS and other possible taken military optics, how do you know its clean?

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:17:26 PM EDT

There are alot of people out there selling military equiptment, (optics, mags, rails, BUIS) I wouldn't want to take stuff when the boys overseas need it.

Is there anyway of telling if the part is military property,

I have been seeing alot of Aimpoints for sale on the web, any way of knowing if they are civilian or military, can you tell from the numbers (do they have serial numbers?)

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:19:02 PM EDT

[#1]

To bad Mr Rogers isn't here, he'd know what to do...

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:22:23 PM EDT

[#2]

basically i am asking how i can ID certain things that are Government equiptment.

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:26:26 PM EDT

[#3]

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basically i am asking how i can ID certain things that are Government equiptment.

if it's on ebay and it's cheap, or it's a matech BUIS, then it's probably Stolen Government Property. You're no the kind of guy who would buy SGP, are you? Give our men the stuff they need to win!

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:27:56 PM EDT

[#4]

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basically i am asking how i can ID certain things that are Government equiptment.

if it's on ebay and it's cheap, or it's a matech BUIS, then it's probably Stolen Government Property. You're no the kind of guy who would buy SGP, are you? Give our men the stuff they need to win!

I saw a used Aimpoint for 250 bucks that I was considering because its in my area, should I go for it, any way to ID a Army Aimpoint from a civilian aimpoint?

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:41:22 PM EDT

[#5]

Honestly, if it's an Aimpoint just bid on it. They all look the same from what I've seen. If you don't buy it, someone else will. Matechs are a bit different since they are gov't only.

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:42:34 PM EDT

[#6]

Honestly, if it's an Aimpoint just bid on it. They all look the same from what I've seen. If you don't buy it, someone else will. At $250, I would be more worried about the function of it than it being military, but you never know. :)

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:45:12 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Honestly, if it's an Aimpoint just bid on it. They all look the same from what I've seen. If you don't buy it, someone else will. At $250, I would be more worried about the function of it than it being military, but you never know. :)

Is 250 a smoking deal? Do they break very often?

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:46:46 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
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Honestly, if it's an Aimpoint just bid on it. They all look the same from what I've seen. If you don't buy it, someone else will. At $250, I would be more worried about the function of it than it being military, but you never know. :)

Is 250 a smoking deal? Do they break very often?

buy it.
the only thing that is pretty much SGP "for sure" are the Matech BUIS.

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:52:40 PM EDT

[#9]

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[ or it's a matech BUIS, then it's probably Stolen Government Property. [/qoute]

Bullshit.............

Posted: 2/21/2006 3:59:38 PM EDT

[#10]

pcurtis

Bullshit.............

Then prove him wrong...... (you must of bought one...

)

Posted: 2/21/2006 4:06:37 PM EDT

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pcurtis
Bullshit.............

Then prove him wrong...... (you must of bought one...)

No, but this is the Internet so all must be true. Actually, Harv24, I expected better of you based on your prior posts. No prove him right.... Nobody has provided proof a DoD or DOHS ban on the sale, it has just been Inernet BS to date.

Posted: 2/21/2006 4:15:15 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

buy it.
the only thing that is pretty much SGP "for sure" are the Matech BUIS.

so everything else should be ok?

Posted: 2/21/2006 5:23:47 PM EDT

[#13]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=265710

The Manufacturer is saying Gov. sales only, any one else want o call MATECH???

Notice how no one has bought direct from them but thru third party sales on EE boards.

I believe the expression is " In Police work..that's known as a clue"!!!

Posted: 2/21/2006 5:27:54 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Honestly, if it's an Aimpoint just bid on it. They all look the same from what I've seen. If you don't buy it, someone else will. At $250, I would be more worried about the function of it than it being military, but you never know. :)

Is 250 a smoking deal? Do they break very often?

No it's definitely a great deal, and I would buy it, personally.

Posted: 2/21/2006 5:39:45 PM EDT

[#15]

https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_05/W52H0905D01270000/000000.pdf

Heres a link to the contract. And if you go on MATECH's Web site, it's an informational website and not a "Hey cool , add this to my shopping cart" kinda sight.

I sent an email to There Government sales guy, I'll see what I get for a response tomorrow.

Posted: 2/21/2006 5:42:38 PM EDT

[#16]

Tag on the Matech info.

Posted: 2/21/2006 7:27:19 PM EDT

[#17]

There are some interesting arguements about the Matech sights. MSTN had them, so that tends to make one believe they are available legally. I seem to remember Eagle Firearms having them also at one point? As for federal surplus, 1005 (firearms equipment) items via DRMO are not available to get at this time due to the War. I have placed calls to Matech and can not get a straight answer out of them. Not to say that individuals that have called Matech are wrong, I just have not gotten the same answer....There seems to be a ton of them out there to get, and the only DOD people that I actually see using them is Air Force Security Forces. Look at Colts new piston driven upper/rifle, it has one on it. So either they are out there illegally and OSI, CID, etc. could care less. Or they are out there legally due to whatever reason.

Posted: 2/21/2006 7:33:56 PM EDT

[#18]

Aimpoints are different- those are sold all over the country. Matech BUISs are only sold on Ebay and in dark alleys.

Posted: 2/21/2006 9:06:13 PM EDT

[#19]

Won't the aimpoint have a NSN# instead of a model number on it?

Posted: 2/22/2006 7:39:57 AM EDT

[#20]

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Won't the aimpoint have a NSN# instead of a model number on it?

My CompM has nothing on it. Only the instruction manual and accessories say Aimpoint.

Posted: 2/22/2006 8:28:13 AM EDT

[#21]

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Won't the aimpoint have a NSN# instead of a model number on it?

My CompM has nothing on it. Only the instruction manual and accessories say Aimpoint.

That's what I thought, when I had gotten one in that group buy last year, there was no markings on it except a Aimpoint patent number, or a sn#.

Posted: 2/22/2006 8:43:37 AM EDT

[#22]

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Aimpoints are different- those are sold all over the country. Matech BUISs are only sold on Ebay and in dark alleys.

Posted: 2/22/2006 8:45:22 AM EDT

[#23]

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https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_05/W52H0905D01270000/000000.pdf

Heres a link to the contract. And if you go on MATECH's Web site, it's an informational website and not a "Hey cool , add this to my shopping cart" kinda sight.

I sent an email to There Government sales guy, I'll see what I get for a response tomorrow.

I’m looking forward to this! Keep us informed!

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BUIS and other possible taken military optics, how do you know its clean?

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