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Posted: 2/16/2006 9:03:13 AM EDT
[#1]
FUFS? flip up front sight? I'm just not used to seeing that acronym.
I know their forend mounted front BUIS looks like the TROY but I haven't seen a barrel/gas block version... |
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Posted: 2/16/2006 9:16:41 AM EDT
[#2]
exactly, just didn't feel like typing it all out and saw it used somewhere else. Sorry to confuse anyone. I saw the rail mounted version too and liked it. Their website also lists a barrell mounted version, but does not have a picture. I am very interested in it since I am configuring my first AR "wish list". I liked the hooded design like the Troy / PRI. I am just trying to figure out if there's any other difference between the two.
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Posted: 2/16/2006 9:25:45 AM EDT
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I sent him an email and he said that yes it was a new gas block/FFS and he would have pics up soon.
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Posted: 2/16/2006 9:44:01 AM EDT
[#4]
Good to know, Thanks.
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Posted: 2/16/2006 10:07:02 AM EDT
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  This thread was started by Talon Arms and there are a few more pic 2/3 of the way down the page. The video Spring activated, something Troy's does not offer. ETA: The correct pic, maybe.............. |
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Posted: 2/16/2006 11:01:32 AM EDT
[#6]
fixed it I see... cool.
I saw that one already. I thought it was some goofy gas block or part of the forend with the regular rail mounted flipup on top. I guess my original guess isn't that far off still... I guess they saved money doing it that way too! |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:44:23 AM EDT
[#8]
looks like a bitch to get on and secure with that Fore-end!
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:53:25 AM EDT
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I'm not sure I follow. The only difference between this gas block & others I have seen is that they built it up on top to align with your rail. What do you mean "saved money by doing it that way"? It's a two piece design juts like PRI & GG&G. The sight is attached to the block, not mounted to it from what I can tell. "looks like a bitch to get on and secure with that Fore-end!" Would it be any more difficult than other designs that require removal of the FSB? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:10:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Nice design. I prefer BUIS that's mounted on the barrel rather than mounted on the rail.
Since the rail is a two piece design there should be no problem installing this FFS-B just like a regular FSB, then just drop down and install the upper rails. I'll seriously consider this model for my next build project. I already have two MRFS ready for my next projects. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:16:29 AM EDT
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It`s a one piece pinned on not a two piece, I can`t tell if they are tapper or straight pins tho.
It looks very well made, Samson gear is good to go. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:55:49 AM EDT
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   Here are a few more pics from Talon Arms thread from the General Discussion board. From Samson's website description: Quick Flip™ Samson FFS-B (folding front sight) - barrel mount Barrel mount Lightweight HK style hood Uses standard AR sight post and pin Spring action deployed with the push of a button Instantly locks up Locks down A perfect match for the ARMS 40 A or L Made from 6061 T6 aluminum Mil spec anodized Laser engraved Low profile when folded F marked height It's currently on backordered status for now but keep your eye on Talon Arms website or just pre-order it, they won't charge your CC until they ship. I got my Samson rails from Talon Arms, great guys and fast shipping. Samson Mfg Corp website link |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:16:39 AM EDT
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Got an email from Scott earlier. Two things, first, the block will attach using 4 set screws. Second, they will have a handful ready to ship next week. $190 on the Samson website. Not sure when Talon or anyone else might be able to get them. Better reserve one now if you want it.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:40:39 AM EDT
[#14]
Set screws? It looked like holes for pins but I guess not. I wonder what diameter barrel will it fit? .750? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:52:34 AM EDT
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I wondered the same thing, but set screws is what Scott Samson said in an email earlier today. Set screws and some loctite should be a pretty solid setup.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:49:50 PM EDT
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I'm not talking about OTHER gas blocks. I'm talking about Samson's rail mounted flip up front sight which is pretty clear. Have you seen Samson's rail mounted flip up? It looks just like this one but clamps to the top of a rail. They both use the same flip up portion and that's what I meant by saving money. To further explain myself to you, take a look at any of YHM's flipups in both the rail mounted and gas block mounted or gas block-included flavors. All three use a different flip up piece because they are all hinged at a different point and need to be a different height. That is not the case with this one and it's rail mounted clamp on version. Understand what I was getting at? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 1:53:51 PM EDT
[#17]
OK, now I see what you meant, duplicate use of the flip up portion. I think I like the look of it though, the block should look like an extension of the rail.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 3:39:26 PM EDT
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nothing against the samson, but if I'm going to go with a new gas block, it's going to lie down as low as it can go, even with the top of the rail like the new KAC SASS. That's a VERY nice design.
Not too long ago a member was looking for ideas to incorporate into a prototype railed fore-end he was going to make and I suggested a flip up that landed flush with the top of the rail like on an early prototype SASS I had seen. He sent me a set of Magpul Ranger Plates for the effort!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 4:17:07 PM EDT
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These front sights were designed to be used with the Samson rails with the cut out for the FSB. I got a chance to handle these and they are an outstanding design.
I have the rail mounted front flip ups coming this week and I can't wait. The spring loaded design is awesome. |
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