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Posted: 1/15/2006 2:30:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 2:32:23 PM EDT by lickx]
Looks like Samson has a new front sight to work with there MRFS.

http://www.samson-mfg.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/flip-sight.gif

a promo video is on the home page
www.samson-mfg.com/

any thoughts?
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 3:18:36 PM EDT
That's badass.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 3:26:29 PM EDT
looks similar to the troy



but spring loaded like arms buis
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 4:18:49 PM EDT
Though I'm not a fan of rail mounted front sights, I think that front sight is pretty nice.

It might look like a Troy but it has a couple of nicer features. The spring loaded deployment and it uses standard front sight post. The AK front sight post on the Troy always bugged the hell out of me.
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 4:36:41 PM EDT
COOL Flip, I'm salivating
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 6:08:16 PM EDT
Amazing... They took the two best parts about the Troy (easy and fast to deploy, and the simplicity of the mechanism and sight) and threw them out the window.

And I absolutely abhor that it looks so much like the Troy. I mean, couldn't they at least have styled it differently?
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 6:19:59 PM EDT
looks awesome. I wonder if they'll make a BUIS
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 9:01:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/16/2006 9:24:01 PM EDT by TalonArms_R]
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 1:08:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 1:22:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
looks similar to the troy



but spring loaded like arms buis




Or the PRI
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:58:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 7:53:10 PM EDT by Onslaught]

Originally Posted By mountsplus:
Looking forward on getting our hands on one.



me too...
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 1:09:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/29/2006 1:11:24 PM EDT by TalonArms_R]
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 1:11:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 1:53:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
looks similar to the troyhr


Strange how it resembles the Troy. hr


I agree, strange ho the sight looks like Troy and Strange how their MRF Handguards also look like Troys. I had a Troy Handguard and sights before.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:20:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
Samson will have the barrel mounted version available at the SHOT show.
Here are the VERY first pics. This is in the white. It will be anodized black for production
I don't have a price yet, but it will not be more than PRI

i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/talonarms/FFSB2.jpg

i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/talonarms/FFSB1.jpg



These pictures show the sight inside the slot for a A2 FSB of an MRFS MX-EBR rail system.



wooo..that looks great .Any chance they make one for a bull barrel ( 0.936") ?
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 12:24:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:12:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 1:22:57 PM EDT by DevL]
Love thia quote:

"A perfect match for the ARMS 40 A or L "

Seems like it would be a better match to the Troy rear...

I have to admit it seems like it would probably be slower to deploy the sight than the regular Troy front which is manual if you had a light mounted on the left rail which would mean you could not hold the rail and push the button the way they show it in the demo. The thing I liked about the Troy front is you could just press your thumb on the rear and push forward and up to deploy or squeeze it and lift straight up. Neither of these methods requires a firm hold of the forearm/rail area. While the first ten seconds of thinking about the sight I was excited, I started thinking about its actual feature benefit and I think its probably slower and inferior to the Troy front flip. The button would have to be VERY easy to push with a single finger and no support of the forearm with the other fingers of the off hand to make it faster to deploy than the Troy and it appears to require quite a bit of force from the video. It certainly is slower for a left handed user to deploy.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:31:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DevL:
Love thia quote:

"A perfect match for the ARMS 40 A or L "

Seems like it would be a better match to the Troy rear...

I have to admit it seems like it would probably be slower to deploy the sight than the regular Troy front which is manual if you had a light mounted on the left rail which would mean you could not hold the rail and push the button the way they show it in the demo. The thing I liked about the Troy front is you could just press your thumb on the rear and push forward and up to deploy or squeeze it and lift straight up. Neither of these methods requires a firm hold of the forearm/rail area. While the first ten seconds of thinking about the sight I was excited, I started thinking about its actual feature benefit and I think its probably slower and inferior to the Troy front flip. The button would have to be VERY easy to push with a single finger and no support of the forearm with the other fingers of the off hand to make it faster to deploy than the Troy and it appears to require quite a bit of force from the video. It certainly is slower for a left handed user to deploy.



Word.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:33:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
Samson will have the barrel mounted version available at the SHOT show.
Here are the VERY first pics. This is in the white. It will be anodized black for production
I don't have a price yet, but it will not be more than PRI

i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/talonarms/FFSB2.jpg

i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/talonarms/FFSB1.jpg



These pictures show the sight inside the slot for a A2 FSB of an MRFS MX-EBR rail system.



That, OTOH, is actually kinda neat.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 2:52:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 1:09:44 AM EDT
I will reserve judgement till I use it in person. It could be faster to deploy if you dont need to support the whole forearm. They dont happen to have a complete satisfaction or your money back guarantee do they?
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 2:31:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 2:40:54 AM EDT
Looks alright to me. I wonder if they could make it so the release is reversible (like some magazine catches) for those who want it the other way for whatever reason.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:02:59 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:24:31 AM EDT



And for the record, when you sight down the barrel these won't look anything like Troy because they don't lean.




HAHAHA...badass. Also, Samson made Troy's rails for them, no surprise they look alike...DERP.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:09:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
This sight is the best option for a rail mounted sight because it has an AR15 front sight post, is F height, has push button deployment and it locks both up and down. It also will not have any alignment or canting problems because it clamps to the sides of the rails and not the top.
TalonArms.com




You had me at "AR15 front sight post".

I only have one Troy on one rifle, but had to get a AK front sight wrench to zero the Troy.

Common use of parts=good thing
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:41:34 AM EDT
I like it.

I'll have to get one for my build.....let us know a price and when they will be able to ship.

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:50:40 AM EDT
Tag.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 3:30:25 PM EDT
Any chance they make one for a bull barrel ( 0.936") ?
thanks

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 4:34:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_R:
Barrel mounted sight anodized



Rob,

Very excited on this new front flip-up.

Can you post a pic of the bare sight (without the handguard) -- either mounted on a barrel or as-is?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 3:47:05 PM EDT
It's the correct "F" height? Crap. I just found out there are two different sizes of rear carry handles the other day. That's gotta get all these chopped carry handle users' panties in a bunch...

What's a KAC 300m designed for, F marked FSBs??
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