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Posted: 11/7/2003 1:16:44 PM EDT
Just wondering what others are using to mount Leupold LR Tactical scopes to flat top AR's. I was looking at the A.R.M.22's. Any body else using ARM 22? What height low,med,high?
Any other solutions? I am interested in targets to 200 yards. Thanks for your input in advance.
Meade
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 3:06:16 PM EDT
Bushmaster Mini Riser(YHM-226) A.R.M.S. #19A (not ACOG) & #21 STANAG Rings [img]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=553[/img] [img]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=554[/img]
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 7:06:18 PM EDT
Leupold Super High Mark 4 rings on flat top. I also have a FF forend so I have enough rail to get it forward for proper eye relief.
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 7:28:47 PM EDT
Hey M if you have a picture of your set up, I'd love to see it. I've got a Bushmaster set up as a varmit rig with a Leupould 6.5x20 on top. I've been trying to figure out how to get my scope farther forward to get the right eye relief. I have been thinking about adding a long ARMS swan rail, but there may be a better way.
Link Posted: 11/8/2003 3:35:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/8/2003 3:37:43 AM EDT by mark5pt56]
This is mine, the scope is off now, stepping up to a long range model. The A.R.M.S. SPR rail & PRI stuff came from Grant at gandrtactical. I used the #22lows and they just fit, unable to use the flip caps. This is a 40mm OBJ, if using the 50mm, I would use the mediums on this rail. Mark [img][url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=61551&c=500&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/061551.JPG[/img][/url][/img]
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 9:09:20 AM EDT
Meadmac, I have the same question as you. Planning on mounting a Leupold 4.5x14x50 on an AR10 flat top. Wondering if the ARMS #22 medium height rings work. Are the mediums high enough for the 50mm objective? Will I be able to get a good cheek weld and proper eye relief with this set up? Not worried about BUIS issues, just want to know if the scope will work.
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 5:07:02 PM EDT
GG&G GS-1 Rail with ARMS #22 Medium Height Rings. [img]http://www.gggaz.com/images/ScoutRail_GS-1/gs1.jpg[/img] This setup doesn't allow for a BUIS but the rifle I have it this setup on isn't the type you'd have irons on anyway. This has been just rock solid and given me tons of room to play around with proper eye relief spacing. Have one on order for my AR-10T but so far its' been AWOL, though GGG promices they'll do a production run soon. I now have two Armalite one-piece scope mounts. [img]http://www.armalite.com/shared/images/armalite_scope_mount.gif[/img] One (30mm) was ordered and the other (1") came with the AR-10T. Very good mount but eye relief was tricky for me on an AR-15 receiver even with the scope pushed all the way forward. Seems okay for use on the slightly longer AR-10 receiver, though. Of course YMMV.
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 7:13:16 PM EDT
Here's the ticket. GG&G GS-1 rail with Leupold Mark4 SuperHigh's. This works great for my varmint rig 400 yds+++ [img]http://outcast.homeunix.org/uploads/guncase.jpg [/img] 20 Tact with NF NXS 8-32x56 Stuart
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 7:37:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/12/2003 10:46:55 AM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 8:35:41 PM EDT
I'm using ARMS 22M rings on top of an ARMS/PRI full length SPR rail (with an ARMS 40A behind the rail and a PRI flip-up front as BUIS). For my fat ugly face, it puts it right where it needs to be. Sluggo
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 5:34:15 AM EDT
My solution to this very problem is as follows. I am using a set of ARMS 22 LOW rings on top of a GG&G scout rail. In addition I am using Knights BUIS (600M rear and flip front) for irons. This sets the scope far enough forward because I like a shorter length of pull on my stock (first collapsed position) on a 4-position stock. I tried the Arms 35 QD and low rings but I just could not get the scope far enough forward. Pics will follow one my Troy Industries collar and break get here and I get my 20-inch barrel cut down to 18. IPSC_GUY sends
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 6:10:38 AM EDT
Wow! That was an excellent lesson in "Scope mounting for the AR platform" Professor Wes!!
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 12:22:34 PM EDT
MSTN, Wow, those are some very nice setups. You've definitely given me some ideas. I've already ordered the ARM #22 rings (medium height). Am going to try attaching them directly to existing rail of AR10 flat top. If eye relief ends up being a problem can always use one of the set ups you've shown to increase length of rail. Also, since my scope is going on an AR10, I'm going to want 3-4 inches of eye relief to avoid getting whacked by scope. P.S. - If you ever want to give any of those rifles/carbines away to a good home, just let me know. :)
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 12:58:15 PM EDT
Well I ordered the #35 base and medium rings from my FFL to mount an M3 on a AR-10. I like this system because it will allow the use of BUIS, I went with GG&G gear. I already had the flip up front sight. I also ordered the MAD sight from my FFL. The A.R.M.S. gear and the MAD is back ordered from his distibutors...anyone else having a hard time getting #35 mounts?
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 7:48:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/13/2003 6:12:37 PM EDT
If he will give my money back then I will order them from you.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 6:58:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 9:41:03 PM EDT
Leupolds generally have pretty long eye relief. I tried one with ARMS#22 high rings directly on the flat top, and eye relief was way too short.
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 7:31:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/15/2003 7:34:22 AM EDT by bsbg]
Originally Posted By M-Forgery: Leupold Super High Mark 4 rings on flat top. I also have a FF forend so I have enough rail to get it forward for proper eye relief.
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Here is my identical set up on an SR15 Match. As has been pointed out, it's all about proper eye relief... [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=6430&iGalleryUnq=457&iImageUnq=19782[/img] [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=6430&iGalleryUnq=457&iImageUnq=15212[/img]
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 7:59:38 AM EDT
Correct me if I am wrong, but I would imagine there would be just enought lateral movement between the RAS and the upper that mounting a scope in this fashion is not the best course of action. The lateral forces exerted between the two could possibly cause (1) your zero to move and (2) worse, could possibly damage your scope. I'm in the same boat with my SR15 Match, but I think I have settled on the ARMS #35 setup. Like everyone is thinking, until that TS30 comes around, we will all be stuck playing the best way to mount game. --Keith
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 10:08:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By krecon1: Correct me if I am wrong, --Keith
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OK, you're wrong [:)]. If Coldblue says it's OK, it's OK: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=166242&w=searchPop [/url]
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:19:30 PM EDT
Thanks to all who posted,those are some great rifles! I have a Leupold 4.5-14 M1 50mm mil-dot on the way. Anyone mount one to the upper rail only? Can you get the scope forward enough? Will this scope's eye relief (4.5"/4.5X and 3.3"/14X) allow you to do so? Haven't purchased mounts yet but want an easily detachable option. Thanks Meade
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 4:00:34 AM EDT
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