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Posted: 11/6/2003 3:23:31 PM EDT
I have a chance to buy a NIB Simmons Aetec 2.8-10X44 at a reasonable price from a buddy who won it at a recent drawing at our Sportsman Club . I want to put it on my Bushmaster 20"/A2.

Does anyone have any feedback on this scope with an AR? Also, any suggestions for the handle mounting hardware? Going to use it for small game and target.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/6/2003 3:33:37 PM EDT
Simmons is another cheap PRC product, probably by Norinco which is an agency of the PLA. Look thru it on a cloudy day before buying it. May work well at low power; will probably be opaque on high. -- Chuck
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 3:16:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/7/2003 3:17:34 AM EDT by DaveS]
Chuck knows his stuff. But, the three I put on my brother's and his sons rifles are very nice......especially for a $120(cheap) set of glass. He bought them after shooting sub-MOA groups with my AR-10(T) topped with the very same scope you are asking about.........and yes, we do shoot sub-MOA regularly of the tailgate of my truck. I let RodeoFan borrow my GG&G rail with my 10(T)'s AETEC[it was my hunting scope till I changed over to the Whitetail Expedition, hey, NightForce 5.5-22x56 NXS scopes and three daughters cuts into funds!!] Here is what it looks like on a flat-top: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=171112[/url] Dave S No, I never played one on television. Yes, as a matter of fact, I used to teach 8541s back in '85-'86.
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 7:24:35 AM EDT
I swapped out my Leupold 6x42 m8 for a Simmons 3-10X44. It was just as clear and sharp (as far as I could tell, and I looked long and hard)and the extra magnification was nice. I've been very happy with it. It works great for praire dog hunting. I've had it a couple of years, we'll see how it lasts. [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/047933.jpg[/img] It does this all the time. 100yds, wooden bench, bipod, with 68gr Hornady BTHP reloads. [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/040107.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 11/7/2003 11:18:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/7/2003 11:19:20 AM EDT by DaPhotoGuy]
Originally Posted By Rooster-c: I have a chance to buy a NIB Simmons Aetec 2.8-10X44 at a reasonable price from a buddy who won it at a recent drawing at our Sportsman Club . I want to put it on my Bushmaster 20"/A2. Does anyone have any feedback on this scope with an AR? Also, any suggestions for the handle mounting hardware? Going to use it for small game and target. Thanks
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You can get them new for $100 so don't spend more than that. I like 'em. Loopie owners don't. They will tell you they are shit. You be the judge. I shoot MOA with mine all the time. [img]http://members.cox.net/daphotoguy/DPMS_V.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 5:14:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2003 5:21:57 PM EDT by CAR97M4]
Ok not to sound totally stupid but isnt more magnification and clarification of the traget better? why would I go with a 3-9 scope than say with a aetec 4x12x50? too much magnification. to much scope? Isnt an AR15 good for 500yard plus? wouldnt you want to be closer looking at the target? I have looked at 8x32x44 simmons a 6x24x50 simmons some BSA and 4x14x42. I have a 4x12x50 Im selling of a simmons. I just want something different. a hundred dollars or less on a AETEC? they are 167.00 all day on ebay
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 7:11:20 PM EDT
My son and I use AETEC's on several rifles. No problems at all. 1 on a 300 Mag A Bolt, 2 on 25/06 Deer rifles, 2 on AR's for predator hunting, and others on 17 and 22 mag rimfires. Our local shop has the non AO model for $130, and the AO model for $135. I have had some for 4 or 5 years and had no problems with any of them. Here is one on a Bushy Varminter... [img]http://photos.imageevent.com/brobert/guns/websize/DSC00067.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 5:44:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2003 5:49:23 AM EDT by Torf]
Here's one on Nichcon's Bushmaster 20" V-Match: [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UAAAAHMXQJAh7qeC7tjtvVd0it1XKNHmVULtmBKSQhch­hRkyoERzFDSXKNbBiRDxtNXob1Sg8WKz8iD9S3pZ1JCKk­z34g3UimLsITxDkb3*pbmx5dLOgRgAAAAAAAAAA/107-0731_IMG.JPG?dc=4675447836214030785[/img] [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADcAnEXkY*BE15oNSoGhwI2e4KWQ!w6xdao8Ujnlzce­I6saAt2mlPqCeyaDYshQ04hXTyAm6!!baj6dyhx4KPXQt­PS2Rj1VSVMQSwsnfrzLBWuPaGE3DXSCPhgAcD4Y/111-1139_IMG.JPG?dc=4675447835306722125[/img] It is an excellant scope for the money. This particular scope has the illuminated reticle. This is a nice feature for low light or dark target shooting, but the red light reflects off the shooters face rather noticeably. The optics are bright and clear at all zoom levels. My experience with it is limited, so I can't speak to the repeatability of the adjustments. My first scope was a Bushnell Banner 3-9x40, and I really wish I had gotten the Simmons AETEC.
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 6:25:52 AM EDT
lol photoguy you spent more on the ARMS mounts and the rail cap than the scope [:)]
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 9:30:50 AM EDT
I had an Aetec on a 16inch Bushy V-match and really liked it. Great scope for the money.
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 10:21:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chuck: Simmons is another cheap PRC product, probably by Norinco which is an agency of the PLA. Look thru it on a cloudy day before buying it. May work well at low power; will probably be opaque on high. -- Chuck
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I CAll BULLSHIT! I believe The two AETEC scopes I own are made in the Philipines. I personally think these are the best scopes to be had. Both of mine are the 2.8-10X44 Models WITHOUT the Adjustable Objective. CLEAR AS A BELL at ALL Magnification Settings. One has been riding on my .300 Mag for the last 8-10 years or so. I put the Aetec on it when They first came out. Paid somewhere around $300 for it. My .300 is a custom job, that is really Light weight, for packing purposes, and really Bruises the hell out of you. The Aetec has Never Bobbled. The Second Rides atop My .50 Beowulf Upper. I got this scope a much cheaper price. Have been using it for 6 months or so. No problems as of yet, and I don't expect to have any.
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 12:20:11 PM EDT
Well we can all agree it's cheap, PRC or otherwise. It may be a good product for its price, I wouldn't mistake it for US Optics or Leupold though.
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 4:38:15 PM EDT
My cousin has a leupold mark III on his rifle and now sold 4x12 50 simmons pro 50 and he preferred my scope. brighter optics and he liked the wider view. I like simmons so much I just bought on on ebay 6x24x50 with a z mount and rings all for under 100.00. mounts right on my carry handle. We will see what this round of Simmons does. This primarily for those big money shots you just have to bet someone they cannot make. Ky cousin put in just inside a target rings 9. almost touching the X at 1575ft. With my simmons BDC set up. He did have a spotter and yes he used to do this alot.
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 5:30:38 PM EDT
I have a Simmons 6.5x20 44 mag scope on my Varminter. Works well for a $150 scope, and I constantly shoot well below moa with it off a bipod and rear rest. Adjustments suck on it though. Mushy clicks, and doesn't return to zero properly after x clicks up and then x clicks down. Would probably suit your purposes just fine though. I would save a little more for something better though.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:41:25 AM EDT
Well I want to see what works the best for me without dumping a ton of money into a setup. If this doesnt work out for me. I can easily sell it and get something that will.
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 6:50:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/23/2003 6:57:31 PM EDT by Turbozag]
I own several Leupolds, and have owned the AETEC scope as well. In fact, I mounted it on a Bushy V Match carbine. It looked cool. But more importantly, it worked well, and in my opinion was an excellent buy at the $130 I paid for it at that time. If I was on a budget, I'd buy one again. Having said that, they ain't no Leupold. [img]http://www.members.iglou.com/zag/aetec.jpg[/img]
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