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Posted: 10/23/2003 3:03:01 PM EDT
Well after awhile of thinking about it I finally got a Mil Spec 7moa model. I wanted a Mil-Spec model to piggy back my ACOGNSN. It is water proof and has better electronics. It took me just a couple of minutes to install. The screen has a blue tint to it with a bright red dot. There is no muzzle side signature. On the muzzle side of the screen it has a orange tint to it.
When I first got it I thought they forgot something. A bottom plate to the scope. The electronics is open on the bottom until you put the seal on and mount it.
Aiming is very natural even on the ACOG. Good for close in work.
I'll post pics when I can.

Just thought I would give the group a sit rep.

Link Posted: 10/23/2003 3:10:03 PM EDT
I'd like to see a pic! What did it set you back?
Link Posted: 10/23/2003 7:25:36 PM EDT
yes please post a picture. Where did you buy it?
Link Posted: 10/23/2003 10:42:34 PM EDT
I bought the mount from the guys at specwargear.com for about $60. I got the scope from Arizona Gun Runners for $710 after shipping. Here is a file copy from specwargear.com. This isn't exactly what it looks like but its close. [img]http://www.specwargear.com/images/saleboard-docter%20mount%202.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 5:06:09 AM EDT
Looks Cool. Where did you purchase the Dr. Optic holo site?
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 5:54:36 AM EDT
I have the same setup on my M4 since a couple of months ago , and I'm completely satisfied too . PP out
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 5:55:40 AM EDT
Looks Cool. Where did you purchase the Dr. Optic holo site?
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Originally Posted By Waz-02: I got the scope from Arizona Gun Runners for $710 after shipping.
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Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:11:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bsbg:
Looks Cool. Where did you purchase the Dr. Optic holo site?
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Originally Posted By Waz-02: I got the scope from Arizona Gun Runners for $710 after shipping.
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He purchased to TA01NSN from AGR for $710. He was asking where he got the DR Optic.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:15:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2003 6:18:39 AM EDT by bsbg]
Originally Posted By Spooge5150: [ He purchased to TA01NSN from AGR for $710. He was asking where he got the DR Optic.
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The Docter is the subject of this post, and AGR sells the Docter for $691 plus shipping, so the $710 sounds about right. AGR advertises $956 for the NSN. [url]http://www.arizonagunrunners.com/Products/doctoroptics/doctorsight/doctorsight.html[/url]
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:25:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2003 6:27:34 AM EDT by Spooge5150]
$691.00 [shock] Umm no! The Dr should be about $265.00 He got the TA01NSN for $710.00 Now to CMA if he paid $710.00 for that Dr. WHOA did he get ripped! Edit: read this [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=172623[/url] And those are MSRP prices listed, you call to get the real price. [;)]
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:30:24 AM EDT
Oh I see now the MIL/LE version is $700.00 Oh OK. Sorry. WTF the price difference???????????????
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 11:55:17 AM EDT
According to http://www.docteropticsusa.com/doctersight/lawenf.html The LE/MIL model is tested to be waterproof. It may have a brighter LED, but I'm not certain from the webpage.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 12:14:07 PM EDT
Thanks for the pic but I wanted to see the mill spec Dr. I have had a standard Dr on my NSN for years.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 12:25:09 PM EDT
Also Arizonagunrunners.com only lists a 3.5 MOA Dr. Do they also stock the 7 MOA or did they have to special order it?
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:01:25 PM EDT
Yes the LE/Mil-Spec version of the Docter Optics is $691.00 plus shipping.
Originally Posted By inkaybee: Also Arizonagunrunners.com only lists a 3.5 MOA Dr. Do they also stock the 7 MOA or did they have to special order it?
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I talked to Gary at AGR about that. He said that he had a 7moa but his web site said 3.5moa. I asked him if he would do a visual confirmation before I ordered. It was 7moa. He said they shipped him the wrong one...to my benefit. I gave $710.00 for the Docter Optics. I gave $ 60.00 for the ACOG/Docter interface. I gave $765.00 for the ACOG 4x32 NSN. I got the ACOG about year ago from SWFA. I know the ACOG is waterproof so I wanted a red dot scope to go on it that was water proof as well. Expensive? Depends how you look at it. Quality doesn't cost...it pays...in my book. Its a life time investment. I will never have to buy another one again....at least that is what I tell my wife, and she is like "oh...ok". Just my thoughts. .02 + S&H
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:40:16 PM EDT
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Well I didnt take my optima scuba diving but it got rained on alot and worked fine. I like your Doctor I just cant afford one. FREE
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 6:01:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2003 6:16:14 PM EDT by Wheelgunner]
I'm bad. [b]"I got the scope from Arizona Gun Runners for $710 after shipping."[/b] I thought he was talking about the ACOG and not the DOCTORsight. Getting easily confused in my later years.
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 6:16:51 PM EDT
"I gave $710.00 for the Docter Optics." [shock]
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 10:09:48 PM EDT
I thought he meant $710 for the Trijicon model also. Jesus Christ, $710 for the Dr. Optic. Is their anything else besides being water proof that is different in between the $710 model and the $265 model? If not I would have purchase the $265 model and it it drowned I would buy a new one. I have allways thought that the NSN-Dr Optic combo would be one of the sweetest set ups around though.
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 10:44:48 PM EDT
Man, am I glad I have an $800 TA31 that does it all [;)]
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 11:15:57 PM EDT
The only difference between the orginal and mil spec is the waterproof feature ($500 option).
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 8:28:32 AM EDT
Although I am NOT willing to try this on my non-milspec Dr Optic sight, perhaps one could "waterproof" the electronics by flooding the inside of the housing with wax. Again, this is just a silly (but somewhat clever?) idea to get the unit "waterproof." As for myself, the non-milspec unit is water "resistant" enough for me.....
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 12:06:05 PM EDT
My Docter is mainly for my HK handguns. Occasionally, I have it on the top of the TA01NSN just for the sake of their look. I really don't have any special mission to carry it under the water, or patroling with it under the rain. If the waterproof feature costs less than a hundred bucks to upgrade. I would consider to get one. Just for the sake to look cool on the TA01NSN: a normal version of the Docter sight is good enough.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 4:55:52 AM EDT
I e-mailed this question to AZGUNRUNER@aol.com [i]What is the difference between the regular DOCTORsight and the LE model. I read in a message post that the LE is waterproof to 75 feet deep. Does that mean that if it rains you cannot use the regular DOCTORsight? Thank you for your time. Dan[/i] [b]No it means that the LE Model is submersible not water resistant like the regular unit Gary[/b]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 5:56:03 AM EDT
I have a standard DR that I have compleatly submersed in water. The unit continues to work just fine. However I would suggest (as do the instuctions) that you flush it with distilled water and air dry it to prevent corrosion.
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