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Posted: 5/19/2003 11:58:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 12:02:07 PM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 4:02:09 PM EDT
Sweet! This is exactly what I've been waiting for! [bounce]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 4:19:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 4:20:30 PM EDT by Boom_Stick]
BOUT TIME!! Now places like GG&G cant dominate the market with equipment that cost you your first born child!
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 4:30:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 4:57:48 PM EDT
Interesting... How much extension does it offer compared to a standard 22M68 and how much does it weigh compared to a full spacer? I think I want to try it (depending on price, of course), but I already have a 22M68, so how much for just the extension spacer?
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:24:55 PM EDT
Is it high enough to clear M4 handguards?
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 5:55:04 PM EDT
So does this thing take the place of the spacer on my #22M68? If so I don't think it would work with my normal length Swan Sleeve.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:06:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2003 7:09:37 PM EDT by new-arguy]
[wow] Man, thats great. Thats REALLY great. I am so happy to see this. ARMS is really something else. Every single thing they put out just keeps getting better and better. If you have a normal length SWAN sleeve, just get rid of it all together and use this plus a #40 rear. Saves weight, saves money, forward mounts, its a win-win decision.
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:24:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/20/2003 4:09:46 AM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:47:55 PM EDT
Does it co-witness through BUIS? Bob
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:56:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 7:59:37 PM EDT
Most excellent! Bob
Link Posted: 5/19/2003 8:22:56 PM EDT
Just like the Knights Aimpoint Offset mount. Doesn't it?
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 4:17:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 4:45:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 7:55:11 AM EDT
Well, that settles the question of what I will do with the $30 refund check I just received from my electric company! Nice!
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 10:14:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/20/2003 10:17:18 AM EDT by Ellery_Holt]
I see that this new offering fills a niche for those who want the quick-off mounting. Choices and options are great! [:)] Bring on more! But otherwise this three piece setup doesn't seem any better than the established GG&G and Knight's offerings. Yawn. Maybe I just don't have the ARMS religion/infection?
Well, that settles the question of what I will do with the $30 refund check I just received from my electric company!
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Enron sent you money?! [:D]
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 1:36:45 PM EDT
Wes: Wow! This looks outstanding! Any pics of it mounting an M2 on a rifle? Thanks, Corey
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 2:37:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 7:42:24 PM EDT
I've got a GG&G Cantilever, and I love it. But look at how much mounting serface there is on the base of the ARMS unit vs the GG&G or Knights. Think about the convienience of the quick release mount vs the thumb screw on the GG&G or screws on the Knights. Think about the long tested and prooven return to zero throw lever mount. And finally, think about the modularity Troy just mentioned. By merely manipulating the spacer you can have one mount that will work on very nearly any platform. If you are yawning, the advantages went right over your head.
Link Posted: 5/20/2003 11:51:36 PM EDT
Posted by Troy...
It would appear that ARMS is paying CLOSE attention to the market, and WE benefit!
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Agreed, which is why I hold out hope that they will make a #19S mount that is dedicated to the compact ACOG line (i.e. same height as a TA60 mount). Calling ARMS...
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:09:35 AM EDT
Wes, Got the extension yesterday. It is great. Thanks for the great service. Ed
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 10:56:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Corey: Wes: Wow! This looks outstanding! [i]Any pics of it mounting an M2 on a rifle?[/i] Thanks, Corey
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Hey, he's right. Pics would be great. [;)] Anyone have any they could share? I almost called Wes this week. I'm very comfortable with my current setup, but think this would be better. I'm on the fence but leaning toward getting this....
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:18:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:34:09 PM EDT
Mine should be waiting for me when I get home from work tonight. [:D]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 8:50:49 PM EDT
I want to order one, but on the mstn.biz site, I can't find it anywhere. Can I buy one, PLEASE?!?!?!!!!! [;)]
Link Posted: 5/22/2003 9:34:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 2:44:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 3:18:46 AM EDT by IPSC_GUY]
WOW They finally made it. I have been bugging ARMS since last year to build me one of these but they said they were tied down with military contracts and at first they didn't think it would be as strong as a regular spacer. Also they got it out for under $50.00 that is cool. The thing is I just bought a used GG&G cantilever mount TODAY... can't win for losing I guess. Somebody post a pic with an aimpoint in this thing mounted on a rifle, I wanna see. IPSC_GUY finally in the states sends
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:01:05 AM EDT
ARRRGH...its sitting here in town...but they are holding it until next TUESDAY - Express Saver. [:O]
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 12:03:28 PM EDT
You guys seem to get the new stuff first. Armsmounts hasn't updated their web-sight in a year. keep up the good work.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 12:47:44 PM EDT
OK... I've ordered it. Now I get to wait for Santa, I mean the delivery guy to bring my new toy!
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:09:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 8:19:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2003 8:30:40 PM EDT by Corey]
I thought I was going to regret staying up this late, but after seeing that pic Troy I don't. [:)] And you even have a chopped CH, M4 HG's and fixed front sight. Just light what it would look like on my rifle. I've been having a hard time deciding if this would make a difference on my rifle. Well, here it is prior to the Colt Enhanced M4 stock and CavArms M4 HG's which I've added since this pic. I won't be able to do it without editing, but I'll have to see how much space the new spacer can get me. I'm already maxing out my M68 mount (max'd out is not ideal I realize). So lemme get this pic up and we can compare. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=1811[/img] Looks like you also have your M68 in the same position as mine (max forward position). But the front of your Aimpoint is around 4 ribs more forward than mine (as measures on the ribs of your M4 HG's). Yeah, I could measure mine but my rifle is locked away upstairs and my wife wouldn't be happy if I woke everyone up just to measure optic placement. So Troy, how much more do you like this than if it had a standard straight high riser at the same base placement point? I've never really had that "looking through a tube" feeling with my M2. Which is why I have the shred of hesitation on this one. Otherwise it would've been my first and hopefully not last purchase from Wes. [;)] EDITED to fix typos and add info after my pic came up.
Link Posted: 5/23/2003 10:35:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 12:35:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2003 12:41:51 AM EDT by JesseJames]
Let me give you an example of where it is REALLY nice. I've just built a new upper with a flattop, and I wanted a cantilever-mounted AimPoint on it. BUT... I know that down the road I'm going to have a railed free-float tube installed, and would use a standard ARMS #22M68 with full spacer to mount it on the float tube rail. So, I'd be paying $200 for a mount that I would only use for a short time. Now, I can buy the ARMS #22M68 with the cantilever spacer and the standard full spacer for LESS money than, say, the GG&G cantilever mount, and I can reconfigure at will. It also gives me the throw-lever mount that I prefer. That's a pretty nice development to me. -Troy [?] [/quote] I'm thinking of mounting an aimpoint on my railed FF tube but I thought that it might change POI because of the flex in the tube. Whats your opinion on this? Will the flex make much of a difference?
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 7:02:08 AM EDT
wes, got your IM; refer to my order "ID 1247". thanks! jim aka ar-jedi
Link Posted: 5/24/2003 9:33:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 7:47:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy:
Originally Posted By JesseJames: I'm thinking of mounting an aimpoint on my railed FF tube but I thought that it might change POI because of the flex in the tube. Whats your opinion on this? Will the flex make much of a difference?
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Given that you'd be mounting the sight on the strongest part of the rail (i.e., at the interface between the rail and the upper receiver), there won't be enough change to worry about. -Troy
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I ended up trying my friends Aimpoint yesterday and thats exactly how I mounted it. Well now i'm definately geting one now.Thanks Troy!
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 11:05:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy: [url]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=12571[/url] Quickie Digicam shot of the ARMS #40 with Cantilever mount. -Troy
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AAAGH!! That pic makes my nipples hard! [:D] I want one, NOW! MN
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 12:33:33 PM EDT
Got mine yesterday. I'll post pics tonight. IMHO, that is THE best mounting option for direct flat top use.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 2:18:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2003 2:20:09 PM EDT by uglygun]
yeah, would have been nice to get ahold of one of those cantilever ARMS spacers... Before I did the trim job on a Surefire 500A handguard to get clearance for a #38Ext so I could mount my M68 in about the same position. Does about the same thing as putting an M68 out on the very end of a #38Ext, I don't have mine mounted all the way out on the end of my #38Ext but if I did the overall results would be pretty similar I bet. [img]http://home.bak.rr.com/varmintcong/14.5in/145rdown.jpg[/img] I bet the M68 cantilever spacer would work real nice in combination with some of the nightvision monocular mounts.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 8:48:08 PM EDT
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=12665[/img] [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=12668[/img]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 4:23:55 AM EDT
Lumpy196 Not to Hi jack a thread here but what kind of stock is that on your M-4? I haven't seen anything like that before. IPSC_GUY
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 4:29:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 4:31:05 AM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:20:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 10:37:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy: Lumpy, You should really consider moving your AimPoint a few notches forward... -Troy
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You know, I told him the same thing, but that is where he likes it - right Lumpy?
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 12:52:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 1:17:20 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
I could make a very long winded thread on why thats exactly where it works for me. Has to do with my eyes and where they bug out at for both eyes open shooting...Wes has got my back on this. IPSC-Guy...get the Vltor stock. The cheek-weld is GREAT. And the fact that I have it stuffed with Surefire and Aimpoint batteries makes it even cooler.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 4:21:52 PM EDT
I ordered mine Friday, and just got it today!!! [img]http://www.burnerblog.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_2003-05-27%20003a%7E0.jpg[/img] I love this mount! Great quality, great service from MSTN, and a future REPEAT CUSTOMER of MSTN's!!!
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 4:58:26 PM EDT
I think i just found a cost effective solution to my Aimpoint mounting problem! Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 3:18:31 PM EDT
wes, got my cantilever mount today, just as you said -- what can i say but it's "swweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!" you should be knighted for bringing this to us. thanks much, Sir Wes. ar-jedi
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 5:11:09 PM EDT
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