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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:07:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: I'm curious about these Just sayin' https://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-ar-15-223-5-56-magazine-30rd-alm-black-teflon-laser-mag-30-al-lz-bt-mp-psa.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230309&utm_term=afternoon |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: Says stamped with cage code Q4TQ4. That's the D&H cage code. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter: I'm curious about these Just sayin' https://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-ar-15-223-5-56-magazine-30rd-alm-black-teflon-laser-mag-30-al-lz-bt-mp-psa.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230309&utm_term=afternoon |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: I plead ignorance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: Originally Posted By mitsuman47: Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter: I'm curious about these Just sayin' https://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-ar-15-223-5-56-magazine-30rd-alm-black-teflon-laser-mag-30-al-lz-bt-mp-psa.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230309&utm_term=afternoon I find it interesting that @Brownells didn't even pop in here to deny having purchased the tooling the last time I @Brownells'd them. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: I'm curious about these Just sayin' https://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-ar-15-223-5-56-magazine-30rd-alm-black-teflon-laser-mag-30-al-lz-bt-mp-psa.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230309&utm_term=afternoon I don't see any spot welds on spine or face. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: Says stamped with cage code Q4TQ4. That's the D&H cage code. I couldn't make it out in the pics. Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:48:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: I couldn't make it out in the pics. Thanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By mitsuman47: Says stamped with cage code Q4TQ4. That's the D&H cage code. I couldn't make it out in the pics. Thanks.   Attached File |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 8:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: I used the enhance enhance enhance feature on my phone. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/359356/1A7097B1-8063-4944-A7CC-DC550E9DACF2_png-2739998.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By mitsuman47: Says stamped with cage code Q4TQ4. That's the D&H cage code. I couldn't make it out in the pics. Thanks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/359356/1A7097B1-8063-4944-A7CC-DC550E9DACF2_png-2739998.JPG I tried, my phone must suck ass. Reading the product description would have been too easy. 
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Posted: 4/6/2023 10:33:09 PM EDT
[#8]
I really regret not grabbing some 20 rounders.
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Posted: 4/11/2023 12:18:34 AM EDT
[#9]
Stumbled upon a few new old stock Okay mags from 2003 with restricted markings recently. kind of cool i think.
  
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:10:38 AM EDT
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I'm pretty ignorant of a lot of things regarding AR-15 magazines, so I suppose I'll ask it here:
I always loved these Okay Industries AR-15 mags but unfortunately I neglected to stockpile them back when they were around. I only have a supply of around 20. So what are the best alternative aluminum mags now that the Okay mags are out? I hear good things about Brownell's AR-15 magazines. D&H is also a name I hear brought up a lot, but I also hear they're not quite as good as Okay's. Anything that compares in quality? Also, what's the latest rumor on anyone buying the tooling to manufacture Okay mags again? |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:18:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: I'm pretty ignorant of a lot of things regarding AR-15 magazines, so I suppose I'll ask it here: I always loved these Okay Industries AR-15 mags but unfortunately I neglected to stockpile them back when they were around. I only have a supply of around 20. So what are the best alternative aluminum mags now that the Okay mags are out? I hear good things about Brownell's AR-15 magazines. D&H is also a name I hear brought up a lot, but I also hear they're not quite as good as Okay's. Anything that compares in quality? Also, what's the latest rumor on anyone buying the tooling to manufacture Okay mags again? IME, D&H and Brownells have been flawless. D&H tend to have sharper seams/feed lips and Brownells can look a bit sloppy at times but all have functioned well for me. Outside of aluminum mags, Pmags are all that I use and have been solid. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:32:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: IME, D&H and Brownells have been flawless. D&H tend to have sharper seams/feed lips and Brownells can look a bit sloppy at times but all have functioned well for me. Outside of aluminum mags, Pmags are all that I use and have been solid. Haven't heard of IME yet. Of the 3, which would you recommend to stockpile for long term? I'm not too bothered about price (hence why I was willing to pay for Okays). And yeah, I do have PMags and they work well, but my retro-ish AR doesn't look right with them and I prefer metal mags for long term stockpiling while keeping PMags for immediate use. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: Haven't heard of IME yet. Of the 3, which would you recommend to stockpile for long term? I'm not too bothered about price (hence why I was willing to pay for Okays). And yeah, I do have PMags and they work well, but my retro-ish AR doesn't look right with them and I prefer metal mags for long term stockpiling while keeping PMags for immediate use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: IME, D&H and Brownells have been flawless. D&H tend to have sharper seams/feed lips and Brownells can look a bit sloppy at times but all have functioned well for me. Outside of aluminum mags, Pmags are all that I use and have been solid. Haven't heard of IME yet. Of the 3, which would you recommend to stockpile for long term? I'm not too bothered about price (hence why I was willing to pay for Okays). And yeah, I do have PMags and they work well, but my retro-ish AR doesn't look right with them and I prefer metal mags for long term stockpiling while keeping PMags for immediate use. (IME= In My Experience).  I'm partial to Brownells but both are equals as far as functionality in my usage. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:45:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: (IME= In My Experience). I'm partial to Brownells but both are equals as far as functionality in my usage. I'm a fucking idiot. lmao I thought you mistyped IMI for a second there. Alright, seems like Brownell's is the best alternative. I may stockpile those when I have the cash. Also, any rumors on anyone buying Okay's magazine tooling? I did like the E2 "ribbed for her pleasure" bodies but no one is making anything like that. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:50:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: I'm a fucking idiot. lmao I thought you mistyped IMI for a second there. Alright, seems like Brownell's is the best alternative. I may stockpile those when I have the cash. Also, any rumors on anyone buying Okay's magazine tooling? I did like the E2 "ribbed for her pleasure" bodies but no one is making anything like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: (IME= In My Experience). I'm partial to Brownells but both are equals as far as functionality in my usage. I'm a fucking idiot. lmao I thought you mistyped IMI for a second there. Alright, seems like Brownell's is the best alternative. I may stockpile those when I have the cash. Also, any rumors on anyone buying Okay's magazine tooling? I did like the E2 "ribbed for her pleasure" bodies but no one is making anything like that. Don't sweat it, abbreviation is just laziness on my part. And as far as info on Okay, I know nothing. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 11:01:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: I'm a fucking idiot. lmao I thought you mistyped IMI for a second there. Alright, seems like Brownell's is the best alternative. I may stockpile those when I have the cash. Also, any rumors on anyone buying Okay's magazine tooling? I did like the E2 "ribbed for her pleasure" bodies but no one is making anything like that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: (IME= In My Experience). I'm partial to Brownells but both are equals as far as functionality in my usage. I'm a fucking idiot. lmao I thought you mistyped IMI for a second there. Alright, seems like Brownell's is the best alternative. I may stockpile those when I have the cash. Also, any rumors on anyone buying Okay's magazine tooling? I did like the E2 "ribbed for her pleasure" bodies but no one is making anything like that. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 11:07:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47: Keep an eye on the Equipment Exchange. I saw some ribbed Okay's on there a few days ago. Alright, I'll keep an eye there. I did manage to snag some off Gunbroker, albeit of course somewhat overpriced. And in limited supply as well. Man, though, I wish I was paying attention earlier last year when the news first broke. Wonder what would be considered a good "stockpile" assuming that we aren't getting a full on mag ban anytime soon and I can still replace current mags with new ones like PMags. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 12:16:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
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In need of some 20rd Magazines, and OKAYs being regrettably gone, I bought some Brownells on sale a few days back @ $8.99/ea.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 12:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: In need of some 20rd Magazines, and OKAYs being regrettably gone, I bought some Brownells on sale a few days back @ $8.99/ea. By the way, looking on Brownell's website, why are the black mags cheaper than the grey mags? Is there anything special to the dry film? Also, I have about 10 Okay mags that are grey with dry film. How do they compare to Brownell's? If Brownell's are good and I can't easily get E2 mags anymore (not comfortable sending money orders, honestly), probably will just save up for 100 Brownell's USGI mags to square away. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gameragodzilla: By the way, looking on Brownell's website, why are the black mags cheaper than the grey mags? Is there anything special to the dry film? Also, I have about 10 Okay mags that are grey with dry film. How do they compare to Brownell's? If Brownell's are good and I can't easily get E2 mags anymore (not comfortable sending money orders, honestly), probably will just save up for 100 Brownell's USGI mags to square away. I prefer dry film personally |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 1:38:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gameragodzilla]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14: The black Brownells mags are reminiscent of Black Teflon D&H mags. They work just fine, but I find them frustratingly slick. Like they'll work out of mag carriers before the dry film will. Or they're super slick to handle with gloves. I prefer dry film personally Ah, makes sense why they're more expensive, then. Alright, I'll save up for those. I do hope someone picks up at least the E2 mag design. The slickness might be helped with the added texturing those mags have. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 4:46:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
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gameragodzilla:
I bought the aluminum gray ones: https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-20rd-magazine-ss-223-5-56/?sku=078000160 The (1) single price x 10 is better than the 10 qty or greater price. I paid $8.49 each. Sorry, I don't know about the slick black ones - I prefer dull matte gray. Isn't the 20 black a steel waffle style repro mag from a 3rd party (Nodak Spud)? |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 4:58:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: gameragodzilla: I bought the aluminum gray ones: https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-20rd-magazine-ss-223-5-56/?sku=078000160 The (1) single price x 10 is better than the 10 qty or greater price. I paid $8.49 each. Sorry, I don't know about the slick black ones - I prefer dull matte gray. Isn't the 20 black a steel waffle style repro mag from a 3rd party (Nodak Spud)? Oh, I'm looking at the 30 rounders, which are quite cheap for slick black, but does go up to over $10 per mag with the dry film grey ones. https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-magazines-aluminum/?sku=430102732 So I'm just gonna save up and wait for a potential sale or deal and then buy 100 of those. Should immediately be enough for every possible use and last me quite a while, especially if they're comparable in quality to the non-E2 Okay mags. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 11:01:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: IME, D&H and Brownells have been flawless. D&H tend to have sharper seams/feed lips and Brownells can look a bit sloppy at times but all have functioned well for me. Outside of aluminum mags, Pmags are all that I use and have been solid. I have quite a few D&H mags and they've all be flawless. As Tig says ... they are definitely "less refined" than OKAY insomuch as they do have sharp edges. I have a massive stockpile of Brownells mags ... TWO ... one of which never has functioned properly. I didn't buy more after my first two since I had a 50% failure rate. Most of the factory aluminum mags I've received with new rifles were rebranded D&H. Colt being the exception (they used OKAY and their subsidiaries). BCM, PSA, etc. = D&H. My mag preferences are... #1 Okay with newest generation follower #2 D&H with MagPul follower #3 PMAG Gen 2 (prefer the design of Gen 3 but they don't fit in all of my lowers) I use PMAGS for range, but keep aluminum mags loaded for when the alien squid invade from outer space and want to probe my butt. |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 3:59:11 PM EDT
[#25]
If someone was using their tooling & dies, even if they couldn't use the name, I'm sure they'd have proudly announced it by now.
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Posted: 5/8/2023 4:58:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Regrettaly, I believe you are right!
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Posted: 5/8/2023 7:08:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I have quite a few D&H mags and they've all be flawless. As Tig says ... they are definitely "less refined" than OKAY insomuch as they do have sharp edges. I have a massive stockpile of Brownells mags ... TWO ... one of which never has functioned properly. I didn't buy more after my first two since I had a 50% failure rate. Most of the factory aluminum mags I've received with new rifles were rebranded D&H. Colt being the exception (they used OKAY and their subsidiaries). BCM, PSA, etc. = D&H. My mag preferences are... #1 Okay with newest generation follower #2 D&H with MagPul follower #3 PMAG Gen 2 (prefer the design of Gen 3 but they don't fit in all of my lowers) I use PMAGS for range, but keep aluminum mags loaded for when the alien squid invade from outer space and want to probe my butt. Are the new followers available from anyone else? |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 7:38:24 PM EDT
[#28]
are these Brownells aluminum mags rebranded D&H? they kinda look like the old Brownells, which I thought were the Okay-sourced mags?
 
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:03:13 PM EDT
[#29]
I always beleive Brownell's made their own... "Each Brownells 5.56mm AR-15 magazine is built to military specifications and are held to ISO quality-control standards and are made by Brownells itself." https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-magazines-aluminum/
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: I always beleive Brownell's made their own... "Each Brownells 5.56mm AR-15 magazine is built to military specifications and are held to ISO quality-control standards and are made by Brownells itself." https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/magazines/rifle-magazines-parts/ar-15-magazines-aluminum/ Co-Line made the Brownells mags for a long minute. |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: are these Brownells aluminum mags rebranded D&H? they kinda look like the old Brownells, which I thought were the Okay-sourced mags? https://www.brownells.com/globalassets/10000/1e/l_078000160_2.jpg?width=1500&format=webp&quality=80 https://www.brownells.com/globalassets/10001/c8/430102730_1.jpg?width=1500&format=webp&quality=80 The Okay 20's middle rib doesn't run all the way to the bottom of the mag body like the Brownells mag does, and the Okay feedlips don't run all the way back to the rear of the body like 30 rounders and the Brownells mags. The Brownells mags are basically cut down 30s. |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 8:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: The Brownells mags are basically cut down 30s. This. |
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Posted: 5/8/2023 9:06:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: x248716x]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: The Okay 20's middle rib doesn't run all the way to the bottom of the mag body like the Brownells mag does, and the Okay feedlips don't run all the way back to the rear of the body like 30 rounders and the Brownells mags. The Brownells mags are basically cut down 30s. I never noticed those details. ignorance is bliss.  
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Posted: 5/9/2023 8:18:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WIZZO_ARAKM14]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: are these Brownells aluminum mags rebranded D&H? they kinda look like the old Brownells, which I thought were the Okay-sourced mags? https://www.brownells.com/globalassets/10000/1e/l_078000160_2.jpg?width=1500&format=webp&quality=80 https://www.brownells.com/globalassets/10001/c8/430102730_1.jpg?width=1500&format=webp&quality=80 They have Brownells CAGE code on the side, but that doesn't mean a lot. They are VERY similar to the D&H mags I've had. Edit: I got the black Teflon because they were out of gray dry film. I hate them. Very slick in the hand and scratch when you look at them wrong. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 8:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: I never noticed those details. ignorance is bliss. https://i.imgur.com/tw81VSL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/l02Bm7z.jpg Sorry to ruin it for you.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 2:38:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hiker1911]
[#36]
Okay 20 rd. new mags are still in good supply. If you want black color and/ or budget prices, go for a different manufacturer.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 4:09:20 PM EDT
[#37]
I was told the Okay aluminum include date stamps externally and internally. I took one apart but can not find one internally. Has anyone seen an internal date stamp on any?
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Posted: 5/12/2023 5:17:41 PM EDT
[#38]
I don’t think really old ones have a date stamp. They do have the gold anodyne finish under the dry film though.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 5:43:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Thanks. I have seed the date stamps on the outsides but never internally.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 7:00:44 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe1969: Thanks. I have seed the date stamps on the outsides but never internally. I had some Okays I bought straight from M&A parts at a show in Illinois back in 2003 for what looked to be essentially new mags. Bought 3-4. Then noticed a slight divot on the side. Had found this site but was just lurking and had seen that's where they were stamping date codes externally. Took them apart for some reason and found they were date coded on the inside too. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 7:11:09 AM EDT
[#41]
Originally Posted By Joe1969: I was told the Okay aluminum include date stamps externally and internally. I took one apart but can not find one internally. Has anyone seen an internal date stamp on any? Originally Posted By Joe1969: Thanks. I have seed the date stamps on the outsides but never internally. Examples in the link that I posted for you previously in THIS THREAD |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 7:36:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AK-12]
[#42]
Soooo...does this mean PSA bought the tooling for their H&R line?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Mike-s-OFFICIAL-HandR-Retro-thread/301-301583/&page=72&anc=4190358#i4190333 ETA: Maybe not, middle rib runs to the bottom of the body, and those look like 30 rounder feedlips. |
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Posted: 5/22/2023 7:41:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Soooo...does this mean PSA bought the tooling for their H&R line? https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Mike-s-OFFICIAL-HandR-Retro-thread/301-301583/&page=72&anc=4190358#i4190333 ETA: Maybe not, middle rib runs to the bottom of the body, and those look like 30 rounder feedlips. they look a lot like the Brownells mags, compare with side-view pic I posted in post #33 above. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:22:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:38:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 10:19:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Sounds like they are still being made somewhere.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 10:47:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
[#47]
Looks like old stock - I cannot find 20 rd mags from Okay.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 10:58:54 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: Looks like old stock - I cannot find 20 rd mags from OK. Colt=Okay.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 11:05:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Yes Okay=Colt but same problem at normal pricing ($34.00 @ Charlie's Custom Clones).
Bought a few Brownells 20rd mags. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 11:08:39 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: Yes Okay=Colt but same problem at normal pricing ($34.00 @ Charlie's Custom Clones). Bought a few Brownells 20rd mags. My link above shows them sub $20 with 150 in stock. |
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