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Posted: 8/23/2022 12:22:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: They’re probably decent enough but the floor plate and the feedlips are the same what’s on the 30s. I don’t see any purpose for an aluminum 20 other than retro appearance and they’re not right for that. Small, easy to pocket in a pinch when out and about with no gear on, and is great for prone or bench shooting. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 12:24:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AK-12]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: They’re probably decent enough but the floor plate and the feedlips are the same what’s on the 30s. I don’t see any purpose for an aluminum 20 other than retro appearance and they’re not right for that. I have plenty of Lancers, Pmags, etc... Mainly wanting them for the retro look, but I did notice the ribs are a little different. Need them to be gray also. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: They’re probably decent enough but the floor plate and the feedlips are the same what’s on the 30s. I don’t see any purpose for an aluminum 20 other than retro appearance and they’re not right for that. I like the 20s for prone shooting i have a mix of 20 and 30s. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:05:35 PM EDT
[#4]
If Okay does sell the production tooling to somebody, presumably they couldn't be marketed as "Okay"-brand mags. Unless the new owner pays a licensing fee to Okay. And it sounds like Okay wants to wash their hands of the whole product line.
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:54:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheQuadfather]
[#5]
At that point they’re just another aluminum mag.
Okay got their reputation for being better back when the out of spec Sanchez GI mags were in circulation. People boutta find out that they’re just another shitty aluminum mag. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 7:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: At that point they're just another aluminum mag. Okay got their reputation for being better back when the out of spec Sanchez GI mags were in circulation. People boutta find out that they're just another shitty aluminum mag. |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 11:08:24 PM EDT
[#7]
I like GI mags, but I have had problems with commercial Okays.
They’re actually the magazine that pushed me into the Pmag or bust camp. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:58:54 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pb57: If Okay does sell the production tooling to somebody, presumably they couldn't be marketed as "Okay"-brand mags. Unless the new owner pays a licensing fee to Okay. And it sounds like Okay wants to wash their hands of the whole product line. I can understand that. They make a lot of things for the medical field. That is a Libtard rich environment. The management of Okay Industries no doubt doesn't want to get cancelled when the hospitals find out that they make "High Capacity Magazines" for the public. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pb57: If Okay does sell the production tooling to somebody, presumably they couldn't be marketed as "Okay"-brand mags. Unless the new owner pays a licensing fee to Okay. And it sounds like Okay wants to wash their hands of the whole product line. Otay is available. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/2/2022 6:39:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Anyone every find out if the Okay equipment was sold to someone?
Are they still making mags for the rest of this year or are they already done? |
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Posted: 10/2/2022 7:18:22 PM EDT
[#11]
I remember reading either on here or on twitter that there's a new owner of the equipment, but they weren't allowed to disclose the info yet. But that's been at least a month or two ago.
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Posted: 10/2/2022 8:36:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By timewaster1700: Anyone every find out if the Okay equipment was sold to someone? Are they still making mags for the rest of this year or are they already done? Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14: I remember reading either on here or on twitter that there's a new owner of the equipment, but they weren't allowed to disclose the info yet. But that's been at least a month or two ago. Post #24, previous page. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 12:51:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
[#13]
If there is a new owner - is there any hope to have a new run of 20rd mags, which are ciurrently impossible to find? Any idea when?
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Posted: 10/3/2022 1:23:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tom-from-Michigan]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14: I remember reading either on here or on twitter that there's a new owner of the equipment, but they weren't allowed to disclose the info yet. But that's been at least a month or two ago. I heard somewhere that the magazine production is in it's own building. I'm hoping someone buys the whole operation. I mean the building, the machines, the inventory, and keep the same employees. That would be the best case scenario. Nothing would change except the name stamped on the magazines. I know it's wishful thinking on my part. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 1:42:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Grendelsbane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulls_i: Okay is in the process of running 3 months of inventory for the buyer to cover orders during the equipment move. The plan is to shut down Okay’s production line and ship the manufacturing equipment in early/mid-October. The new company is estimating it will take 3-4 weeks to be up and running (mid-November?). I could see Palmetto being the buyer. Do we have any more hints yet? |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 12:58:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ConanTheCimmerian]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: I could see Palmetto being the buyer. Do we have any more hints yet? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grendelsbane: Originally Posted By bulls_i: Okay is in the process of running 3 months of inventory for the buyer to cover orders during the equipment move. The plan is to shut down Okay’s production line and ship the manufacturing equipment in early/mid-October. The new company is estimating it will take 3-4 weeks to be up and running (mid-November?). I could see Palmetto being the buyer. Do we have any more hints yet? I would love to know who the buyer is and I look forward to seeing if the new manufacturer lives up to the previous reputation. I like Pmags and have plenty, but I really liked having Okay mags as well. I am at probably a 50/50 mix right now. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2022 6:25:36 AM EDT
[#17]
Bump
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2022 2:23:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Does arfcom do group buys? You can usually get a helluva deal buying a pallet load.
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Posted: 10/27/2022 2:29:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11C1P: Does arfcom do group buys? You can usually get a helluva deal buying a pallet load. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/Are-group-buys-dead-/121-1779945/ |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 7:13:40 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11C1P: Does arfcom do group buys? You can usually get a helluva deal buying a pallet load. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 7:24:34 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11C1P: Does arfcom do group buys? You can usually get a helluva deal buying a pallet load. I’ve done a few group buys on mags. You have to get up in 10K+ mags to get any price break. Margins are razor thin on those mags at current prices. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 8:46:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Just to kind of update this thread, I found Surefeeds today locally in FDE or whatever color they call it. They have a 4/22 production date and green MagPul followers. I found it interesting that the floorplates are also FDE and there is no markings on them, zero/ziltch/nada just plain FDE.
I seem to be the only guy in NC that still buys and shoots solely Okays or metal GI mags so I felt obliged to buy several more. I'll post pics if anyones interested. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 8:59:12 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsgreen50: Just to kind of update this thread, I found Surefeeds today locally in FDE or whatever color they call it. They have a 4/22 production date and green MagPul followers. I found it interesting that the floorplates are also FDE and there is no markings on them, zero/ziltch/nada just plain FDE. I seem to be the only guy in NC that still buys and shoots solely Okays or metal GI mags so I felt obliged to buy several more. I'll post pics if anyones interested. @samsgreen50 I'd be interested. The only coated floodgates that I've seen were on a set of factory blocked mags. Here:  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 9:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: @samsgreen50 I'd be interested. The only coated floodgates that I've seen were on a set of factory blocked mags. Here: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/OKIT30Bb-1000x1000_jpg-2581096.JPG @TGWLDR also of note, the color shading is different. Granted the reference is an E2 mag, it also has a patent stamped into it, again possibly because it's an E2  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 9:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsgreen50: @TGWLDR also of note, the color shading is different. Granted the reference is an E2 mag, it also has a patent stamped into it, again possibly because it's an E2 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211752_jpg-2581142.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211718_jpg-2581143.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211553_jpg-2581145.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsgreen50: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @samsgreen50 I'd be interested. The only coated floodgates that I've seen were on a set of factory blocked mags. Here: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/OKIT30Bb-1000x1000_jpg-2581096.JPG @TGWLDR also of note, the color shading is different. Granted the reference is an E2 mag, it also has a patent stamped into it, again possibly because it's an E2 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211752_jpg-2581142.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211718_jpg-2581143.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361390/20221029_211553_jpg-2581145.JPG Thanks for posting. The blank floorplate is odd. I've not seen that. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:23:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: I'd be interested. The only coated floodgates that I've seen were on a set of factory blocked mags. Here: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/OKIT30Bb-1000x1000_jpg-2581096.JPG Did you miss out on the Surefeeds when they were making them with tan baseplates? I posted about them here when they first showed up in 2018. They were made that way for a couple years, but they reverted back to black baseplates sometime in 2020, I think.  Attached File |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:52:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Did you miss out on the Surefeeds when they were making them with tan baseplates? I posted about them here when they first showed up in 2018. They were made that way for a couple years, but they reverted back to black baseplates sometime in 2020, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DAA5FD8E-5A39-4939-901C-B836DA3A53DB_jpeg-755466.JPG Those are at least marked though. I wonder if the blank ones slipped by QC, were replaced by somebody after they left the factory or something else? |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 10:08:44 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Did you miss out on the Surefeeds when they were making them with tan baseplates? I posted about them here when they first showed up in 2018. They were made that way for a couple years, but they reverted back to black baseplates sometime in 2020, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DAA5FD8E-5A39-4939-901C-B836DA3A53DB_jpeg-755466.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: I'd be interested. The only coated floodgates that I've seen were on a set of factory blocked mags. Here: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/OKIT30Bb-1000x1000_jpg-2581096.JPG Did you miss out on the Surefeeds when they were making them with tan baseplates? I posted about them here when they first showed up in 2018. They were made that way for a couple years, but they reverted back to black baseplates sometime in 2020, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DAA5FD8E-5A39-4939-901C-B836DA3A53DB_jpeg-755466.JPG No, I remember now. Just forgot.  Thank for jogging my memory Scout. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2022 10:16:06 AM EDT
[#29]
Paid $13.99 a pop to grab a few dry film lube 30s. Overpaid, and I need more AR mags like I need a hole in the head, but...they're my fave.
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Posted: 10/30/2022 1:26:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Has there been any new information on who bought them out?
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Posted: 10/30/2022 1:31:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihv800: Has there been any new information on who bought them out? @bulls_i 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:49:53 PM EDT
[#32]
How cool would it be if JJE acquired it and rebranded as H&R???
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:51:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
[#33]
Originally Posted By SmegHead: How cool would it be if JJE acquired it and rebranded as H&R??? I don't understand. Who is JJE? OKAY is a good brand name to perpetuate. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 2:52:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AK-12]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: I don't understand. Who is JJE? OKAY is a good brand name to perpetuate. The parent company of Palmetto State Armory that also owns AAC, Harrington and Richardson, DPMS, etc... They certainly took advantage of the Remington bankruptcy. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:03:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmegHead: How cool would it be if JJE acquired it and rebranded as H&R??? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmegHead: How cool would it be if JJE acquired it and rebranded as H&R??? Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: Have whoever email me [email protected]. I don’t have any contacts over there, but would be interested in looking. A possibility discussed earlier in this thread. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:05:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: I don't understand. Who is JJE? OKAY is a good brand name to perpetuate. https://jjech.com/ |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:26:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Ach So, the investment company.... Thanks.
Point well taken. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 7:36:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11C1P: Those are at least marked though. I wonder if the blank ones slipped by QC, were replaced by somebody after they left the factory or something else? If you are referring to the pic I posted, they were in the familiar packaging. There were 20 or so of them on the shelf and they all had the same blank floorplate. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2022 8:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsgreen50: If you are referring to the pic I posted, they were in the familiar packaging. There were 20 or so of them on the shelf and they all had the same blank floorplate. Interesting. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:37:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Or maybe a buyer could go back to branding them as NHMTG as Okay used to do for magazines made for the civilian market.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:56:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheQuadfather]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sj586: Or maybe a buyer could go back to branding them as NHMTG as Okay used to do for magazines made for the civilian market. NHMTG was a different company than Okay. It was New Helvetia Manufacturing and Trade Group. Owned by Ronan Corp, founded by a former president of Colt IIRC. |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 6:31:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheQuadfather: NHMTG was a different company than Okay. It was New Helvetia Manufacturing and Trade Group. Owned by Ronan Corp, founded by a former president of Colt IIRC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheQuadfather: Originally Posted By sj586: Or maybe a buyer could go back to branding them as NHMTG as Okay used to do for magazines made for the civilian market. NHMTG was a different company than Okay. It was New Helvetia Manufacturing and Trade Group. Owned by Ronan Corp, founded by a former president of Colt IIRC. An email Posted on TOS in 2014: The NHMTG brand name is going away, but not the magazine. As you may know, Ronan Corp has been distributing Okay Industries magazines to the commercial market under the NHMTG brand name for the past 15 years. These are the same magazines that Okay has manufactured for the US military for more than 40 years. We will continue to offer the same high quality magazine, but now they will be sold under the Okay SureFeed name, and be available with both the traditional mil-spec gray dry lube finish, as well as a black PTFE (Teflon) coating. Thanks Steve Pelletier Ronan Corp |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:46:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WSAR15]
[#43]
Are NHMTG brand name magazines still sold?
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:51:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WSAR15: Are NHMTG brand name magazines still sold? Ask me how I know that you didn't read the post above yours.  Eta: No longer in production man. |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 9:56:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11C1P: Does arfcom do group buys? You can usually get a helluva deal buying a pallet load. I work at a distributor that sold OK Industries mags by the pallet. They aren't all that much cheaper by the pallet (less than $1 per mag), not much margin in mags in a normal market. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2022 2:52:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rafki76]
[#46]
I also just got some unmarked magazines. Blocked tan 10/30's with unmarked tan baseplates.
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Posted: 11/17/2022 4:07:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Did Botach buy the Okay machines? They seem to be the only retailer with Surefeeds in stock.
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Posted: 11/17/2022 4:10:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trails-end: Did Botach buy the Okay machines? They seem to be the only retailer with Surefeeds in stock. Looks like they have gray 20s in stock too! 
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Posted: 11/17/2022 5:16:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Getting to be about the time we were told we'd find out.
Fingers freaking crossed. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 5:35:29 PM EDT
[#50]
WIZZO_ARAKM14 is 100% right - anybody have information?
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