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Posted: 3/6/2019 6:53:27 PM EDT
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@3ACR_Scout Not giving you shit but what are the dates on those mags. The D&H one you have shown has the old style green follower and the Okay one has the newest style follower? My D&H are the PSA labeled black ones and they're fine as far as the seems go. In fact they look better than the Brownells ones I have from when Brownell was a .gov contractor for "real" USGI mags. In a couple of years another company will get the contract and Okay won't be USGI mags anymore either and there'll be another "must have, real USGI" magazine. It's all semantics really...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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D@H works fine They supply mags to foreign militaries. That said, OKAY seems to pay slightly more attention to detail and more rigourously tests their mags. Apologies for the fuzzy photos - it was hard to focus on the gray magazine bodies in my poor kitchen lighting. Here's a '12 production D&H (Noveske branded) on the top with a '11 production Okay below. Note the ripples in the D&H spine where it's pinched in at the weld spots, while the Okay has a smooth spine with no gap showing. The Okay seams actually appear to be sealed somehow - not sure if that’s an effect of the dry lube finish: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/2982FE82-84DF-4B18-B41E-03CE9A63F892_jpeg-821776.JPG Top of the rear and front spine seams. Note that this expensive Noveske-branded mag came with an older green follower, and the spring seems lower quality also (I'm no expert on spring materials, but it's kind of chalky in appearance). I know PSA mags come with Magpul followers. I bought a few Noveske mags when I was ordering some other things from their website because I was curious who they were made by. They turned out to have the D&H cage code on the body with the Noveske cage code on the floor plate (for double the price of the PSA version): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/649CDAE2-C465-4D56-A771-50ED5C8113DC_jpeg-821777.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DBA8003A-A030-47A7-8305-5FD3E14A1440_jpeg-821778.JPG Again, I don't really doubt that these D&H mags will hold up ok, but if I'm going to buy aluminum mags, I'm going to stick with the ones that seem to be better quality to me. That's just where I'd rather spend my money. My D&H are the PSA labeled black ones and they're fine as far as the seems go. In fact they look better than the Brownells ones I have from when Brownell was a .gov contractor for "real" USGI mags. In a couple of years another company will get the contract and Okay won't be USGI mags anymore either and there'll be another "must have, real USGI" magazine. It's all semantics really...... Only genuine Center Industries are legit G.I. mags 
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Posted: 3/6/2019 8:31:14 PM EDT
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I like D@H Mags but the fact is that they don't test their mags like Okay Does. It was just revealed in the E2 thread that Okay Tests their mags 3X before shipping. 
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Posted: 3/6/2019 9:21:31 PM EDT
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Far from breaking news... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20190306-182912-868621.png Since they can be bought for only about a dollar more than D@H, it makes no sense to buy D@H; unless they are on a great sale. |
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Posted: 3/6/2019 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyway.... Since they can be bought for only about 4 dollars more ..... The $4 difference is evident. |
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Posted: 3/6/2019 10:26:06 PM EDT
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FIFY. The $4 difference is evident. Botach sells a six pack of OKAY Mags for $55.00; no sales tax. Free shipping. It's actually less than a dollar difference in price; for most of us |
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Posted: 3/6/2019 10:34:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA sells D@H typically for $7.99 each; plus sales tax. Free shipping on 10. Botach sells a six pack of OKAY Mags for $55.00; no sales tax. Free shipping. It's actually less than a dollar difference in price; for most of us |
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Posted: 3/6/2019 11:00:38 PM EDT
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@3ACR_Scout Not giving you shit but what are the dates on those mags. The D&H one you have shown has the old style green follower and the Okay one has the newest style follower? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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D@H works fine They supply mags to foreign militaries. That said, OKAY seems to pay slightly more attention to detail and more rigourously tests their mags. Apologies for the fuzzy photos - it was hard to focus on the gray magazine bodies in my poor kitchen lighting. Here's a '12 production D&H (Noveske branded) on the top with a '11 production Okay below. Note the ripples in the D&H spine where it's pinched in at the weld spots, while the Okay has a smooth spine with no gap showing. The Okay seams actually appear to be sealed somehow - not sure if that’s an effect of the dry lube finish: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/2982FE82-84DF-4B18-B41E-03CE9A63F892_jpeg-821776.JPG Top of the rear and front spine seams. Note that this expensive Noveske-branded mag came with an older green follower, and the spring seems lower quality also (I'm no expert on spring materials, but it's kind of chalky in appearance). I know PSA mags come with Magpul followers. I bought a few Noveske mags when I was ordering some other things from their website because I was curious who they were made by. They turned out to have the D&H cage code on the body with the Noveske cage code on the floor plate (for double the price of the PSA version): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/649CDAE2-C465-4D56-A771-50ED5C8113DC_jpeg-821777.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DBA8003A-A030-47A7-8305-5FD3E14A1440_jpeg-821778.JPG Again, I don't really doubt that these D&H mags will hold up ok, but if I'm going to buy aluminum mags, I'm going to stick with the ones that seem to be better quality to me. That's just where I'd rather spend my money. |
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Posted: 3/6/2019 11:04:59 PM EDT
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Okay doesn't have a contract now. Only genuine Center Industries are legit G.I. mags |
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Posted: 3/8/2019 5:55:12 PM EDT
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I listed the production years in the post that you quoted: “Here's a '12 production D&H (Noveske branded) on the top with a '11 production Okay below.” The D&H magazine has the old style green follower because it’s a Noveske branded mag (with a Noveske cage code baseplate). I was ordering some other parts from Noveske, and they had a sale on their “MILSPEC” magazine, which only showed a closeup of the baseplate and didn’t mention that it was a D&H mag. This was a different listing from the mag that comes in gray and black - they way it was described made me think it was a dry lubed, GI mag. I was curious to see what their mags were like, and was really irritated when the package arrived and I saw the D&H cage code on the body. I paid about double the price of a D&H from PSA. Lesson learned... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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D@H works fine They supply mags to foreign militaries. That said, OKAY seems to pay slightly more attention to detail and more rigourously tests their mags. Apologies for the fuzzy photos - it was hard to focus on the gray magazine bodies in my poor kitchen lighting. Here's a '12 production D&H (Noveske branded) on the top with a '11 production Okay below. Note the ripples in the D&H spine where it's pinched in at the weld spots, while the Okay has a smooth spine with no gap showing. The Okay seams actually appear to be sealed somehow - not sure if that’s an effect of the dry lube finish: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/2982FE82-84DF-4B18-B41E-03CE9A63F892_jpeg-821776.JPG Top of the rear and front spine seams. Note that this expensive Noveske-branded mag came with an older green follower, and the spring seems lower quality also (I'm no expert on spring materials, but it's kind of chalky in appearance). I know PSA mags come with Magpul followers. I bought a few Noveske mags when I was ordering some other things from their website because I was curious who they were made by. They turned out to have the D&H cage code on the body with the Noveske cage code on the floor plate (for double the price of the PSA version): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/649CDAE2-C465-4D56-A771-50ED5C8113DC_jpeg-821777.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/DBA8003A-A030-47A7-8305-5FD3E14A1440_jpeg-821778.JPG Again, I don't really doubt that these D&H mags will hold up ok, but if I'm going to buy aluminum mags, I'm going to stick with the ones that seem to be better quality to me. That's just where I'd rather spend my money. My PSA labeled D&H's seams are all good and have the MP followers (2015 and later production). |
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Posted: 3/8/2019 6:05:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/8/2019 6:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThx, I wondered what those numbers meant. The D&H I have have them.
"04TQ4" ETA looks like they had contracts from 2016 back to 2006 |
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Posted: 3/8/2019 11:43:48 PM EDT
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Thx, I wondered what those numbers meant. The D&H I have have them. "04TQ4" ETA looks like they had contracts from 2016 back to 2006 |
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