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Posted: 1/26/2006 1:43:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/28/2006 11:57:15 AM EDT by sf46]
Anyone know anything about the quality or reliability of these new 45 round mags?




DPMS Panther Arms' New 45 Round Magazine works in any firearm that readily accepts EM-16 magazines and is function fired before shipping.
Stamped out of 0.040" Thick 6000-series Aluminum, heat treated to T6 condition
Hard coat anodized per MIL-A-8525, Class 2 Teflon coated
Fabricated from two 30rd box magazines
Uses a standard follower and floor plate


Product Code: MA-45

$89.95


DPMS 45 round mag
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:32:15 PM EDT
That mag looks pretty lame. You can see where the two mags were joined. And that price is totally crazy!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:29:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 6:37:43 PM EDT by StealthyBlagga]
If (and its a big IF)they work 100%, then people in the 3-gun world will find them attractive, even at this price. Sterlings are more, and PMI mags (I have two) can be a bit hit-and-miss. The only other alternative would be a drum (MGI or Beta-C), which are more pricey still.

Yes, $85 is a lot, but then again they are probably welded by hand, then cleaned up inside and out by hand, and lastly the mag spring has to be replaced. Anything that is made in America and requires hand finishing is going to be pricey. I thought you guys disapproved of buying Made-In-China crap .
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:08:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 8:09:01 PM EDT by scottryan]

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
If (and its a big IF)they work 100%, then people in the 3-gun world will find them attractive, even at this price.




Another reason why 3-gun is so gay. They claim how "real life" it is, but never uses anything that you would use in real life.

I was watching Shooting Gallery a few weeks ago. They were penalizing the shooter if he dropped his spent pistol mag and didn't retain it, when they should be penalizing him for retaining it.

What the fuck is the point in retaining an empty pistol mag in the middle of a fight, when you could already be reloaded and shooting again.

What a bunch of fags.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:12:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scottryan:

Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
If (and its a big IF)they work 100%, then people in the 3-gun world will find them attractive, even at this price.




Another reason why 3-gun is so gay. They claim how "real life" it is, but never uses anything that you would use in real life.

I was watching Shooting Gallery a few weeks ago. They were penalizing the shooter if he dropped his spent pistol mag and didn't retain it, when they should be penalizing him for retaining it.

What the fuck is the point in retaining an empty pistol mag in the middle of a fight, when you could already be reloaded and shooting again.

What a bunch of fags.



keke
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:44:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 10:45:47 PM EDT by Green0]
YEAH one and a half mags for the price of ten!!! At that price if it wasn't flawless I'ld want to drive out to the company and choke someone out with it.

What a deal. That was really my first honest thought when I saw the ad. DPMS should have made a die and actually stamp these with a one piece body and sell them for $20 $25 tops.

Get an MWG 90 round drum. 90 rds for 129 dollars and it will still lock the bolt to the rear.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:53:15 PM EDT
...not for $8.95 would I buy that POS.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 12:29:24 AM EDT
WTF?

Just get a mag cinch and run 60 rounds!
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 2:03:48 AM EDT
How can even put that picture in there ad. what do they think we are morons....
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 2:27:11 PM EDT
They look like D&H mags, they have the month/year stamp on the body in the same spot as D&H.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 2:30:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 2:57:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
USGI? I think not.



And there is a reason, USGI are 30rd max, it is called first and formost reliabilty.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:18:57 PM EDT
Another example of DPMS's ride to the top of AR makers.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 12:24:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 12:57:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scottryan:
I was watching Shooting Gallery a few weeks ago. They were penalizing the shooter if he dropped his spent pistol mag and didn't retain it, when they should be penalizing him for retaining it.

What the fuck is the point in retaining an empty pistol mag in the middle of a fight, when you could already be reloaded and shooting again.




Dont do much Military training do you? You always retain your mags. Why do you think they have those drop leg dump pouches, or you throw them down your shirt? While there might be new mags with your ammo, their probably wont be.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 1:03:38 AM EDT
I've heard some calls for reliable drum mags from the crowd that needs to break contact and get off the X, so to speak, but they are the only ones that seem to want more than 30 rounds. At least in the educated crowd.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 6:28:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 7:22:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Stottman:

Originally Posted By scottryan:
I was watching Shooting Gallery a few weeks ago. They were penalizing the shooter if he dropped his spent pistol mag and didn't retain it, when they should be penalizing him for retaining it.

What the fuck is the point in retaining an empty pistol mag in the middle of a fight, when you could already be reloaded and shooting again.




Dont do much Military training do you? You always retain your mags. Why do you think they have those drop leg dump pouches, or you throw them down your shirt? While there might be new mags with your ammo, their probably wont be.



I already know this so you are not going to get me.

This was not a military situation. It was a police shootout.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 7:53:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scottryan:


Another reason why 3-gun is so gay.




You obviously know very little about 3 gun competition. Either that, or you got your butt kicked at the range by a "D" class 3 gunner at some point...
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 8:05:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ipschoser1:

Originally Posted By scottryan:


Another reason why 3-gun is so gay.




You obviously know very little about 3 gun competition. Either that, or you got your butt kicked at the range by a "D" class 3 gunner at some point...



Ok smartass, why don't you tell me how 3 gun is so real then.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 3:13:24 PM EDT
A fellow shooter of mine bought one. First time out with that mag his AR-180b ran like a one legged dog. Same results in my LE6920. Stay away !
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 11:32:04 AM EDT
3 gun is a game, and way better than a round of golf. Pissing on the shooting sports is the same as pissing on your own legs.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 11:42:54 AM EDT
The 3 gun games must have some relevance, I personally know several of the top competitors that routinely train the US military and police.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 12:42:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 12:42:57 PM EDT by WIDeerHunter]
Are you sure they were dropping empty mags? In IPDA it's a fault if you drop any mag that has rounds in it. Either way, 3 gun matches are a blast and a great excuse to run through some cool courses.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 2:26:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gregory_K:
3 gun is a game, and way better than a round of golf. Pissing on the shooting sports is the same as pissing on your own legs.



+1. As long as you don't pick up bad habits, its fun and trigger time. IDPA also has its faults, but again as long as no bad habits are acquired, its trigger time and reasonably good practice. I stop shooting SASS matches (Coyboy Action for those that don't know what SASS is) , when I started to try and thumb-cock my 1911 in an IDPA match.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:05:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:25:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 9:25:43 AM EDT by erikd65]
GACK! $90?!?!?! No thanks hock.gif
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 12:33:36 PM EDT
That wasn't true 3-gun, That was some kind of Police, Military games. I shoot alot of 3-gun including the DPMS Tri-gun challenge every year with a prize table close to $200,000 for about 180 competitors to split. 3-gun is not like IDPA style for the dropped mag issue.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 9:51:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stottman:

Originally Posted By scottryan:
I was watching Shooting Gallery a few weeks ago. They were penalizing the shooter if he dropped his spent pistol mag and didn't retain it, when they should be penalizing him for retaining it.

What the fuck is the point in retaining an empty pistol mag in the middle of a fight, when you could already be reloaded and shooting again.




Dont do much Military training do you? You always retain your mags. Why do you think they have those drop leg dump pouches, or you throw them down your shirt? While there might be new mags with your ammo, their probably wont be.



I wouldn't say always....but it is better to have them and not need them than to not have them and need them. If you're executing an emergency reload you're probably not going to worry about where that empty mag goes - your only concern will be getting your rig back into the fight and pressing forward. If you have a lull and have the opportunity to do a tactical reload and retain your mag, so be it. No every method of doing a reload works for all situations.....that's why we train. Well, at least some of us.
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