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I don't necessarily think the guy in the video is wrong, I just think he only tells half the story. Maybe he didn't think it necessary to mention the need for upset since all rifle (spitzer) bullets do upset..eventually. The problem is that the longer the neck, the less total damage it does. And in thin targets, or at odd angles, it may even yaw too late.
I also think the 2,200fps mentioned is probably a good base number needed for a small caliber like a 5.56 to cause damage outside the crushing path. But I think that number can be lower with larger projectiles.
The picture of the 300blk exit wound in the hog posted earlier in this thread is proof of that.
I'm not "poo poohing" the video. I just find it strange how that one video can influence someone so much, especially after being presented written articles by well known ballistics experts and actual pictures that show that his argument is simply not true.
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I agree,
I think what he said was at a very high, very general level. I think it was conflated with something different, taken out of context, and repeated as gospel.
I'd break it down into three areas:
1. Is there a speed in which a projectile can exceed the elasticity of human tissue? That is a
physiological question with limited variables such as the tissue itself (fat? muscle? soft organs? lungs? blood vessels? health of tissue, including being weakened from fragmentation). Someone may give a general answer of "x" fps, to cover many of the variables. Bone would be an easier example to understand. It either breaks or it does not. What that particular fps does not state is the
extent of damage. (Similar to bone, it is either broken or not broken. If it IS broken, is it a hairline crack? clean break? , compound fracture? Is it shattered with bone fragments causing more damage?). "Stretch" damage that is only 1/4th a MM away from the wound isn't really a big deal. Which leads to #2
2. I think the extent of damage is where all the other factors come into play. Such as caliber, bullet shape, bullet construction, velocity, weight, angle of entry, etc. How does that bullet react when it impacts? There are tons of variables here. You can be above "x" speed and do very little damage, or below "x" speed and do massive damage. 2200fps might be a general number where you exceed elasticity for 5.56, but all the other factors come into play in terms of extent. There are so many factors, that is just gets glossed over. Which leads to #3.
3. Somehow 55gr 5.56 FMJ traveling at +2800fps, impacting, turning 90 degrees, and exploding (maximum extent of damage from fragmentation) has been conflated with "rifle damage", which has also been conflated with tissue elasticity of "x" fps. So what we are left with is: 2200 fps = "devastating rifle damage", which isn't true at all, and ignores all the factors of #2.