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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:28:40 AM EDT
Looking to buy some premium 77gr for  shooting 200-500 yards  should I go with imi razor core smks or balckhills tmks?
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 11:22:41 AM EDT
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CBC or Razor core
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 11:47:16 AM EDT
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And midway has a sale on razorcore right now so there it is.  buddy has a ranch with lots of room to shoot so ill get to stretch out the AR finally.  Also has seen some coyotes running around
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 11:50:51 AM EDT
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IMI Razorcore all day long.
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 11:52:54 AM EDT
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got a 240 can from midway $194 with shipping includes an ammo can.. Can always use another ammo can
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 12:07:18 PM EDT
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got a 240 can from midway $194 with shipping includes an ammo can.. Can always use another ammo can
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Discounting $10 for the can, that's $184\240 = 77 cents per round delivered.

250 rounds of CBC 77gr SMK delivered is $162\250 = 65 cents a round.


If you like razor core that much better, at SGAmmo - it is (shipped price) $349\500 = 70 cents a round.
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 12:52:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2017 1:15:08 PM EDT
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Discounting $10 for the can, that's $184\240 = 77 cents per round delivered.

250 rounds of CBC 77gr SMK delivered is $162\250 = 65 cents a round.


If you like razor core that much better, at SGAmmo - it is (shipped price) $349\500 = 70 cents a round.
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got a 240 can from midway $194 with shipping includes an ammo can.. Can always use another ammo can
Discounting $10 for the can, that's $184\240 = 77 cents per round delivered.

250 rounds of CBC 77gr SMK delivered is $162\250 = 65 cents a round.


If you like razor core that much better, at SGAmmo - it is (shipped price) $349\500 = 70 cents a round.
The sale price was $179 before shipping.  So really it was 70 cents per round if you take off the can.  I'll check out the cbc next time I order
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 1:16:25 PM EDT
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When Creedmoor Sports gets more of their 77gr SMK in stock ( supposedly this month ) ... I recommend trying their 77gr SMK.

My profile photo is 20rds of it at 100yds, benched, scoped, bagged front , squeeze bag rear.



That said ... I suggest you try a variety of 77gr and 75gr.

My rifle didn't really like the 77gr TMK ... but loves the Hornady Steel Match 75gr, clear out to 794yds...

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13233105_1178858855468213_5278272384127870417_n.jpg?oh=27851c056775a6b12c67d5d9575e7e1f&oe=5A4FA17C
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My rifle doesn't like 75gr Hornady shoots like total crap. 69&77gr smks no problem
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 5:46:04 PM EDT
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When Creedmoor Sports gets more of their 77gr SMK in stock ( supposedly this month ) ... I recommend trying their 77gr SMK.

My profile photo is 20rds of it at 100yds, benched, scoped, bagged front , squeeze bag rear.



That said ... I suggest you try a variety of 77gr and 75gr.

My rifle didn't really like the 77gr TMK ... but loves the Hornady Steel Match 75gr, clear out to 794yds...

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13233105_1178858855468213_5278272384127870417_n.jpg?oh=27851c056775a6b12c67d5d9575e7e1f&oe=5A4FA17C
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What barrel length was the .223 steel shooting well with at that range? Twist?
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 5:49:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/20/2017 5:59:46 PM EDT
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IMI razor core
CBC
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 6:48:55 PM EDT
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I highly recommend the Magtech/CBC 77gr OTM, but we all know each barrel behaves differently, so it is a good idea to try it out before committing to bulk purchases.

From my experience, in my SR15 Mod1 16" CHF LW and SR15 LPR 18" SS Krieger, the Magtech is more accurate than the IMI 77gr OTM and BH 77gr TMK by about 0.50-0.75MOA, and it is about the same accuracy as the BH 77gr OTM.

In the end, it really is win win situation for me as it is a fast and accurate 77gr OTM Ammo for about $0.55/rd
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 7:01:39 PM EDT
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In my experience CBC is more accurate than IMI.  

It shoots right at .5MOA very consistently in my 22" bolt gun.
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 7:26:47 PM EDT
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Cant afford that much now but Ill get 300 rounds for cheaper than the midway imi 240 so I canceled my ordered it hadn't processed yet

I wasnt even aware of the cbc magtech stuff before this post
Link Posted: 9/20/2017 8:24:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2017 11:44:18 AM EDT
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Cant afford that much now but Ill get 300 rounds for cheaper than the midway imi 240 so I canceled my ordered it hadn't processed yet

I wasnt even aware of the cbc magtech stuff before this post
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It's a newer offering within the past couple years and not as well known as IMI. Most folks are reporting it is equal to the Black Hills MK262 loading. I think you'll be pleased.
Link Posted: 9/22/2017 9:49:51 PM EDT
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I have collected about 8 different types of ammo to try out in my 18" barrel.  That is a lot to buy hoping your setup likes it.
Link Posted: 9/23/2017 6:17:17 AM EDT
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I have collected about 8 different types of ammo to try out in my 18" barrel.  That is a lot to buy hoping your setup likes it.
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I've tried several types of 77gr and all have shot moa  gorilla, gold medal match, nosler all shoot great. It's the 75gr Hornady rounds my rifle doesn't like it seems.

I noticed though at 100 yards 69gr smks grouped tighter but at 200 the 77gr was better
Link Posted: 9/23/2017 7:25:21 AM EDT
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IMI Razorcore. Its great ammo.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 8:24:49 AM EDT
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My 16" AR loves the CBC / Magtech 77gr.  

Right around 1 MOA at 200 yards, even in a chrome lined barrel with me behind it.
Link Posted: 9/30/2017 8:39:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2017 6:45:22 PM EDT
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Got out to the range today and shot the Magtech 77gr  shot 100 rounds 1moa all day long.  shot 50rounds 5 shot groups at 100 yards all at 1 inch few were under.  Took it out to 200 meters shot another 50 rounds with 5 shot groups,  used strelok pro on my phone dialed up 7 clicks and was spot on and was getting 2-2.25 inch groups

very happy with the ammo. This will probable be the only match ammo I buy now.
Link Posted: 9/30/2017 7:27:14 PM EDT
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Awesome. Glad we didn't steer you wrong.
Link Posted: 9/30/2017 7:30:12 PM EDT
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Got out to the range today and shot the Magtech 77gr  shot 100 rounds 1moa all day long.  shot 50rounds 5 shot groups at 100 yards all at 1 inch few were under.  Took it out to 200 meters shot another 50 rounds with 5 shot groups,  used strelok pro on my phone dialed up 7 clicks and was spot on and was getting 2-2.25 inch groups

very happy with the ammo. This will probable be the only match ammo I buy now.
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Good to hear that the Magtech 77gr OTM is doing well in your rifle!
As it is in my situation, it is also a win win situation for you, as the cost effective 77gr ammo performed so well. There is just no reason to look for alternatives :)
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