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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:17:43 PM EDT
Plenty of places had it for ~50¢/round, but now the cupboards are bare. Except for cheaperthandirt, but want $12.33/20rnd = 61.7¢/rnd.
What happened? BTW, there is debate if this is really "match" ammo as we generally think of it, but it does have a good reputation. As for my experience, my new S&W M&P 15 Sport II (1:9 twist) loves it. From 25yds on a rest with a scope, I got 3 different 6-shot groups at ~2MOA.  I'm sorry I don't have anything else to compare, but I also had the M1, and trouble with a used revolver. 
So any thoughts on this ammo, and why it suddenly ran away? 
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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:23:23 PM EDT
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Just speculation but it could be the regular manufacturing and/or importation cycle.
We're not in a panic or anything so there's not a lot of un-natural external political pressure in the mix. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:30:32 PM EDT
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Welcome to ar15.com!
I don't know anything about the availability of 69gr Privi, but I can be relatively certain that your rifle in fact, does not like the Privi. 2 MOA from a scoped ar15 on a rest at 25yds is poor accuracy. The 69gr Privi should average under 2 MOA at 100yds with an average ar15. Have someone check out your shooting technique, try other ammunition brands, and for heck's sake, see what the rifle does at 100yds with a brand of ammo before committing to that ammo. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 11:01:05 PM EDT
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Ammoseek is your friend
I shot some today out of a total garbage parts gun build with $60 Bear Creek barrel, almost moa 5 shot groups at 100. I like it. My only complaint would be it's a bit on the slow side, 2630 average muzzle velocity out of that 18 inch barrel, iirc FGMM 69 grain is over 100 fps faster out of the same barrel. For half the normal price, no complaints. I don't shoot tons of it, a semi local Rural King keeps most Privi and Geco ammo in stock, pretty much the only reason I go there. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:01:03 AM EDT
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Welcome to ar15.com! I don't know anything about the availability of 69gr Privi, but I can be relatively certain that your rifle in fact, does not like the Privi. 2 MOA from a scoped ar15 on a rest at 25yds is poor accuracy. The 69gr Privi should average under 2 MOA at 100yds with an average ar15. Have someone check out your shooting technique, try other ammunition brands, and for heck's sake, see what the rifle does at 100yds with a brand of ammo before committing to that ammo. Might be misremembering. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:01:25 AM EDT
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Isn't 2 MOA at 25y a 1/4" group? Maybe I'm having a brain fart. For instance a 2" group at 200 would be 1MOA. Might be misremembering. OP, how large are your groups, in inches, at 25y? I've never found PRVI "match" ammo to be particularly accurate in any of my guns, at least not compared to other commercially available loads. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:23:27 AM EDT
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Welcome to ar15.com! I don't know anything about the availability of 69gr Privi, but I can be relatively certain that your rifle in fact, does not like the Privi. 2 MOA from a scoped ar15 on a rest at 25yds is poor accuracy. The 69gr Privi should average under 2 MOA at 100yds with an average ar15. Have someone check out your shooting technique, try other ammunition brands, and for heck's sake, see what the rifle does at 100yds with a brand of ammo before committing to that ammo. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:50:05 AM EDT
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2 MOA at 25y should be 1/2" as it's roughly equal to 2" at 100. OP, how large are your groups, in inches, at 25y? I've never found PRVI "match" ammo to be particularly accurate in any of my guns, at least not compared to other commercially available loads. The groups are about 1/2". I used a homemade target with a grid of 1/4" inch squares and a 2" black dot, which I made with a spreadsheet. Because I merely wanted to see what my new toy could do, I didn't bother zeroing the scope. For the sake of candor, I eyeballed everything through the scope. I did not measure the paper with a caliper, so this is why I say ~2MOA; it was probably a hair less. Next time, I will do it at 100yds to reduce measurement error, and at least examine the paper. directly. Also, as I understand the way it should be measured, all of the rounds at least juuuuust hit the edge of a 1/2" circle @ 25yds, the group is considered 2MOA. Put another way, if a round breaks a smidgen of a 2MOA circle, it counts as being in the 2MOA group. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:59:49 PM EDT
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2 MOA at 25y should be 1/2" as it's roughly equal to 2" at 100. OP, how large are your groups, in inches, at 25y? I've never found PRVI "match" ammo to be particularly accurate in any of my guns, at least not compared to other commercially available loads. Wonder if this PPU 69gr is any good in gel like its big brother. I'd really like to see Prvi load it to 5.56 spec and add a cannelure. Would be a good budget MK262. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 8:38:30 AM EDT
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No offense intended at all... but dang near all ammo will shoot tiny groups at 25yds.... so while your results are promising, consider further testing.
IMHO, before you go out and buy a bunch... I strongly suggest you stretch out that distance to at least 50yds, and preferably 100yds. After shooting further, please report back, we are all gunny and enjoy reading about this kind of stuff. I also second the Ammoseek.com ... I use them all the time. As for the "Where did it all go.." comment.... remember most all retailers bought a bunch of resale product ( overstocked ) under the pretense that Hillary would win. Thankfully she didn't... but that left the resellers with a BUNCH of product sitting on their shelves.... that is not good for them. I'd bet they have throttled back on restocking product.... that is all. Looking at some of the sales I have seen.... ( PSA's Black Hills sale comes to mind )... they are very overstocked on certain products that don't sell quick enough. It most certainly is a buyers market right now.... which is always a double edged sword... good for us bad for the other guys selling. Heck even the volume of new threads, has dwindled on the various forums.... also a result ( IMHO ) of a pro- 2nd Amendment President. ... If Hillary had won... everyone would still be scrabbling to buy whatever they could find. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 9:41:11 AM EDT
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I tried a few boxes of 69gr PPU "Match" in my 1/7 PSA CHF upper and I wasn't impressed. Wolf Gold delivered about the same(maybe better)accuracy for a lot less money.
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Posted: 9/10/2017 4:00:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2017 4:58:21 PM EDT
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I tried a few boxes of 69gr PPU "Match" in my 1/7 PSA CHF upper and I wasn't impressed. Wolf Gold delivered about the same(maybe better)accuracy for a lot less money. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:26:41 AM EDT
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69gr Prvi match shoots under an inch with 2 of my 1-9's, 5 shot @100yds, the stuff is awesome. As far as shooting at 25 yds with groups of 2 " , not so much for you.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 12:33:40 PM EDT
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25yd is way too close to be judging accuracy of a centerfire rifle. That's not even enough room to see whtat the ammo will do or if there are inconsistencies in velocity.
Go out to 50 or 100yd before judging accuracy. And 2moa is nothing to write home about but is plenty good for real life situational shooting. I can pretty easily hit a 10" steel plate at 200yd with my 11.5" SBR and red dot using Wolf steel cases 62gr. I'm probably 80% on the 6" plate. However, the misses are likely my inability to see the target clearly with a 3moa dot at 200yd. |
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