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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:22:15 PM EDT
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You talking about the boxes ? Right ?
Empty the boxes. Put the ammo in an ammo box or ammo can. Throw it in Tupperware. Done. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:25:33 PM EDT
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The boxes have mold. I have some tupperware I'm beginning to transfer the ammo into.
The ammo may have mold spores. There is some black specs on the ammo, could be corrosion, could be mold. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:26:06 PM EDT
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Wipe the loaded ammunition down with a chlorine bleach in water solution. Soak the magazines in the same solution, then a rinse bath, then a bath submerged in WD-40, then wipe excess off and store away.
Toss the boxes. I would recommend simply dumping the ammunition into a chlorine bleach solution, but the outcry of the mob's "O teh noes ..." precludes application of knowledge instead of feels. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 12:45:22 PM EDT
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Outdoor range, shoot it up!!!
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Posted: 8/15/2017 5:51:06 PM EDT
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I would recommend simply dumping the ammunition into a chlorine solution, but the outcry of the mob's "O teh noes ..." Box and all. Give it a couple hours and pick out the garbage. Hose it off and onto the towels to dry. I wont tell how many 22lr iv seen come OUT of the drier. They were clearly washed as well. If water was going to get in...i would think it would be in a 22lr. Growing up my buddy's mom would have a cup on top of the drier and we could always find a few rounds in there. Never saw that woman so pissed as the day she sucked one into her new Kirby vacuum. The good old days.... |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 6:09:52 PM EDT
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The fact that you let it sit outside could have dried out the mold but I still wouldn't take any chances. I would dump them in a bucket with water and bleach and let it sit for a while.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 6:20:07 PM EDT
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Toss boxes. Soak ammo in bucket with bleach and water mixture. Rinse ammo off, allow to air dry. Pay attention to where you store your ammo from now on. Shoot, buy ammo cans NOW and store it in them with some dessicant packs tossed in, post cleaning of course.
Or, leave them alone, clean the brass but leave the mold on your bullet. It is now a new home defense round, if the gunshot doesn't kill them, the mold will surely leave them with some medical problems. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 7:15:46 PM EDT
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How much ammo are we talking about ?
And what specific brand's and caliber's ? |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:14:16 PM EDT
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This is a tech forum. Contribute or don't post - Eric802
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:47:32 PM EDT
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How much ammo are we talking about ? And what specific brand's and caliber's ? 500-1,000 rounds 45 ACP winchester white box and win 1911 100 rounds 45 acp ASYM ~100 rounds 308 ASYM ~150 rounds of 9mm geco and win x One box of 22LR federal These were all soaked in tupperware with mold killer from ace hardware designed to kill mold on contact of 90 seconds or longer. The fluid turned from clear to yellow, to green by the end. Luckily the PVRI 7.62 case of ~1,000 was sealed in plastic heat sealed bags. I saturated the plastic bags with the mold killer. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 8:10:12 AM EDT
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people are acting like mold is dealing with radioactive waste.
throw out boxes, put ammo in ammo cans after its dried out. shoot. rinsing/soaking/ all that crap is not needed. The mold can't grow w/o food. eta too late |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 9:47:12 AM EDT
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people are acting like mold is dealing with radioactive waste. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 12:10:56 PM EDT
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Black mold can kill you, you do know that, right? We're no talking about moldy cheese. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 1:59:55 PM EDT
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Black mold can kill you, you do know that, right? We're no talking about moldy cheese. Now tell me, does all black mold kill you, or just a certain type? Does one spore kill you or just a few? Can simple precautions protect you from such a thing? OMG black Mold the OP is a zombie posting from the grave!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 2:10:19 PM EDT
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too many windows open
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Posted: 8/16/2017 2:38:41 PM EDT
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Get those plastic kiddy pool and fill it up with bleach. Soak your cans in it for 15 mins and let it dry.
Done. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:19:12 PM EDT
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you're one of those uneducated people huh Now tell me, does all black mold kill you, or just a certain type? Does one spore kill you or just a few? Can simple precautions protect you from such a thing? OMG black Mold the OP is a zombie posting from the grave!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 10:59:19 PM EDT
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OP was LIVING in a house full of it, you do know that, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Black mold can kill you, you do know that, right? We're no talking about moldy cheese. My wife was getting dizzy, my son was getting chronic diarrhea, we were all feeling sick, my wife and I had minor breathing problems. There were three strains of mold in the home. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:03:26 PM EDT
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people are acting like mold is dealing with radioactive waste.
throw out boxes, put ammo in ammo cans after its dried out. shoot. rinsing/soaking/ all that crap is not needed. The mold can't grow w/o food. eta too late Most of my furniture and clothes didn't remediate so well and is getting tossed out. Didn't want my safe getting tossed out later on over cross contamination. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:17:29 PM EDT
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you're one of those uneducated people huh Now tell me, does all black mold kill you, or just a certain type? Does one spore kill you or just a few? Can simple precautions protect you from such a thing? OMG black Mold the OP is a zombie posting from the grave!!!!! Mildew could be called black mold, but it isn't actually stachybotrys what's actually coined as black mold. Not all mold that's black is technically "black mold." I copied and pasted symptoms from a mold website. I bolded the symptoms my family had. I could be missing some. The website doesn't list bronchospasms which I also had. Mental problems Confusion Brain fog Shortened attention span Difficulty concentrating and paying attention Slowed reflexes Disorientation Dizziness Memory loss and memory problems Impaired learning ability Hallucinations Shock Anxiety Depression Aggression and other personality changes Tingling Trembling Shaking Seizure Numbness Respiratory Difficulty breathing - breathlessness or shortness of breath Wheezing Coughing Pulmonary edema - swelling of the lungs Pulmonary hemorrhage - bleeding in the lungs Sore throat Burning sensation of the mouth Bleeding gums Runny nose Itchy nose Stuffy, blocked nose Nose bleeds Circulatory Irregular heartbeat Heart inflammation Damage to heart Low blood pressure Bone marrow disruption Bleeding tendency Blood not clotting properly Hemorrhage - internal bleeding Vomiting up blood Bleeding in the brain and in other organs Vision Eye inflammation and soreness Red or bloodshot eyes Eye damage Blurry vision and vision worsening Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes) Skin Crawling skin Dermatitis - skin inflammation, rash, blisters, itchiness Jaundice (yellowing of the skin) Immune Immunosuppression - immune system not functioning properly Infections reoccurring Reproduction Infertility Miscarriage Impotence Fetal development problems Tiredness and Discomfort Chronic fatigue Drowsiness Weakness Aches and pains Muscle pain Chest pain Abdominal pain Joint pain Malaise - general discomfort Headaches Cold or flu type symptoms or recurring colds Fever Nausea Vomiting Diarrhea Other Hair loss Weight loss, anorexia Hearing loss Liver disease Coma Death |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 9:06:31 AM EDT
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That's enough about the fucking mold. Talk about cleaning the ammo or don't post.
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Posted: 8/17/2017 8:15:24 PM EDT
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I would tumble it in my brass tumbler if it really bothered me.
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Posted: 8/17/2017 9:38:28 PM EDT
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That's enough about the fucking mold. Talk about cleaning the ammo or don't post. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Any ammunition should be fine; brass is not damaged by mold and can be easily cleaned with a bleach solution - as was mentioned above. When handling this stuff, wear gloves. A dust mask isn't a bad idea either.
Wearing gloves (I like nitrile gloves) protects your hands from the mold and from the bleach. Chlorine bleach is pretty bad@$$ stuff itself - it cleans by chemically dissolving whatever you're trying to get off the thing you're cleaning. Make sure the brass/magazine parts/etc. is dry after you finish cleaning. I have quite a bit of ammunition in cardboard boxes, but it's stored on an open, well ventilated shelf. It helps hold my loading bench down! Cardboard with crud on it is one of the earliest indicators of a mold problem because cardboard is good at getting and staying damp. This is why I frequently inspect that loaded ammo under my bench. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 6:34:16 PM EDT
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Range day, sponsored by OP!!!!!
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:05:55 PM EDT
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Simple. Put on a respirator and gloves. Get a bottle of Cavicide. Remove ammo from packaging and dispose of packaging. Pour cavicide in a bucket. Dip ammo in Cavicide, then set it in the sun to dry. Wask ammo can with Cavicide. Done.
Cavicide is generally non-reactive with metals, but is sooner-than-instant-death on things like viruses, bacteria, and molds. Hospital disinfectant. Oh, and the fumes won't kill you. Doesn't smell much, either. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:06:57 PM EDT
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Wipe the loaded ammunition down with a chlorine in water solution. Soak the magazines in the same solution, then a rinse bath, then a bath submerged in WD-40, then wipe excess off and store away. Toss the boxes. I would recommend simply dumping the ammunition into a chlorine solution, but the outcry of the mob's "O teh noes ..." precludes application of knowledge instead of feels. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:06:32 PM EDT
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NO!!!!! Chlorine is reactive with metals, and will cause corrosion! Now if I had known that you can get Cavicide as cheaply and easily as I've just learned (WalMart, Office Max, etc.), I'd have suggested it myself. Our housekeeping staff uses it and it works very well; it does in anything and everything. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:18:57 AM EDT
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That's enough about the fucking mold. Talk about cleaning the ammo or don't post. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 8:52:50 AM EDT
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Spray bottle with bleach solution
Plastic shallow tub Latex gloves, old clothes so not to ruin good clothes Setup out side Spray one batch of ammo at a time lightly and quickly wipe clean / dry Transfer to clean ammo cans with dessicant packs It will take time obviously but it's the best course of action I can think of. Good luck OP. 
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Posted: 9/2/2017 3:54:57 AM EDT
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For cleaning mold with a diluted solution of chlorine bleach, it takes more than a quick spray and wipe. In fact, a 10% chlorine bleach dilution can take about 30-45 minutes to kill most things. If you're just going to spray-and-wipe, you might as well do nothing. Half an hour in a diluted bleach bath can possibly weaken the brass enough to result in split cases. Hazmat decon is kinda one of my things, and that includes decontaminating weapons. Chlorine bleach is more damaging than people realize. Heck, I see flash-rusted handcuffs all the time that were dipped and dried immediately.
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Posted: 9/2/2017 10:36:51 AM EDT
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I've always thought that this would be a two step process: remove anything stuck to the brass with a conventional cleaner (NOT Windex due to its ammonia content), leaving bare-looking brass, and THEN wiping with bleach solution. Mold is a tenacious beast, so my thought was to removing what's visible would basically leave brass that only needed sanitizing.
My primary experience with decontamination has been in chem warfare training - wherein bleach is your friend because it is so chemically active. My most current experience is in health care, where dilute bleach kills any and everything dead, dead, dead with a "wet time" of around 2-3 minutes. Is bleach exposure for that long damaging to brass? And is the mechanism a reaction with the zinc in the brass or both zinc and copper? If using chemistry on brass is out of the question, what about steam? A portable steam cleaner can power off all sorts of crud and not raise the temperature of the substrate enough to be "hot to the touch". |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 9:59:37 PM EDT
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The ammo may have mold spores. If you have humidity and stuff it can grow on, it will grow. If not, it won't. You know what will also kill the shit out of mold spores on ammo? Shooting it. Don't store ammo just sitting around in boxes, and certainly don't store it sitting on concrete, but now that that water is under the bridge, toss all the rounds into ammo cans with a dessicant; problem solved. Don't spray it with anything - some cleaners can attack the brass. Don't dunk it it anything. Seal it in a can until it's time to shoot it. Not a damn thing is going to happen to you when you open the can and shoot it later. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 12:49:49 AM EDT
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NO!!!!! Chlorine is reactive with metals, and will cause corrosion! Where would I find elemental chlorine? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:05:17 PM EDT
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I left out "bleach"; I'll edit the post. Where would I find elemental chlorine? My dad worked in the chemical industry, and when their plant had a chlorine leak, he did the smart thing: put on his respirator and high tailed it out of the area. His coworkers, who were slower to respond, spent a couple weeks in the hospital with damaged lungs... |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:55:52 AM EDT
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I left out "bleach"; I'll edit the post. Where would I find elemental chlorine? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO!!!!! Chlorine is reactive with metals, and will cause corrosion! Where would I find elemental chlorine? 
Elemental chlorine is a component in the production of bleach, and the resulting liquid causes metals to oxidize rapidly. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 12:35:06 PM EDT
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We're talking about incidental exposure, not months or years of soaking, maybe along with a little heat to help the chemical reaction.
That did cause me to consider why I wrote chlorine instead of chlorine bleach or just bleach. I'll blame posting on the phone, because I would say "bleach" in a conversation. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:31:12 PM EDT
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I wonder if "oxygen bleach" would work to destroy mold on brass without damaging the brass. Oxygen bleaches are basically sodium percarbonate and hydrogen peroxide. Peroxides tend to be devastating to organic matter, but I don't know what they might do to brass.
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Posted: 9/7/2017 5:02:06 PM EDT
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Hmmm.... I think I feel a need to set up a scientific inquiry (after the H-cane is done).
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