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Posted: 3/21/2006 6:45:48 AM EDT
I have had good luck with a lot of ammo that other people consider trash. I shoot Blazer, Wolf, suspect surplus.

The only ammo I won't buy anymore is American & Magtech.
Which ammo will you not buy for quality reasons?
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 6:57:15 AM EDT
Amerc all the way. Magtech is pretty good ammo.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 6:57:40 AM EDT
i won't use A-merc or Maine Cartridge from experience. Magtech is fine for me, so far.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:02:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 7:02:46 AM EDT by Forest]

Originally Posted By SS109:
Which ammo will you not buy for quality reasons?



After this weekend: Brown Bear

WAY underloaded 9mm wouldn't reliably cycle our handguns. When firing it felt like I had my Cienner .22 slide on my Glock.

I won't shoot any remanufactured ammo from unknown sources. So the only remanufactured I will shoot is Black Hills, everything else is new production.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:09:23 AM EDT
PMC has never worked in my guns. I am always getting FTEs.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:13:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:46:48 AM EDT
Magtech for me. In both 9mm and 40sw I had several FTF and feed issues. Bad primers. Also a FTE with the .40 when a case split. No damage, but the case was stuck halfway in the chamber.
PMC and UMC functioned flawlessly, and seemed to have the exact same exact bullets (180 grain FMJ .40/124 grain FMJ 9mm).

I've had decent luck with the newer Wolf, though I prefer the Silver Bear in my SKS.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:05:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:05:24 AM EDT
Anything with PD on it.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:07:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 8:08:21 AM EDT by FMJ]
Back in the 70`s Blazzer 22lr was the WORST EVER!! anyone remember?

PMC,PMP,S&B,Santa Barbra,Winchester,Remington,Lake City,Wolf,Wolf M193,Federal ,Sa,IMG

ITS BEEN ALL GOOD FOR ME!

BTW like magtech also
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:16:06 AM EDT
Amerc and Olympic.
Indian Surplus if you're talking .308
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:17:53 AM EDT
i'll be the first to admit, ive never shot Wolf through my guns. And no reloads.

Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:00:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By anjan9:
Amerc and Olympic.
Indian Surplus if you're talking .308



Dear god, I forgot that one. I got about 200 rounds of Indian 308 when I bought my AR10. Upon inspection 25% are unsuitable. Bullets crooked in the case were the #1 reason to toss.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:22:34 AM EDT
I avoid gunshow reloads, Amerc, and Olympic. Never really had any problems with stuff like Wolf, Radway Green, or Federal PD
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:35:14 AM EDT
Basically I avoid anything that I've read enough bad crap about on this forum, i.e. Indian 7.62, American Ammunition et al. I also avoid gun show reloads.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:03:25 AM EDT
Indian 7.62 and Olympic .223
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:29:51 AM EDT
There is a company in Dallas that is actualy known for their reloads to be reliable and I pick up 1k every time I get the chance to at the show. Nothing wrong with reloads at th fun show if its from a reputable souce.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:32:04 AM EDT
Based upon what I have read, seen, and heard about, the following should be avoided at all cost:
A-merc
Maine Cartridge
Olympic

Based upon personal experience, I would advised to avoid "Hirtenberger 9mm +P+" unless you have a firearm that can handle it.
Due to the softness of the bullet material, I had feeding problems while trying to chamber a round. Once a round had been chamber one or two times, I had to throw it away, because it just would not chamber properly EVER again.
Plus I had to have my Colt "All-American" 2000 9mm handgun overhauled by Colt custom shop (because there are not any replacement parts in the supply system to repair it).
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:34:50 AM EDT
Could have been the lot but Winchester Q3131. Every shot required me to pull the charging handle to reload another one.

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Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:39:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:
Could have been the lot but Winchester Q3131. Every shot required me to pull the charging handle to reload another one.

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could you at least tell us what lot# it was
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:52:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 10:55:31 AM EDT by M4A1OwnsYou]

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:
Could have been the lot but Winchester Q3131. Every shot required me to pull the charging handle to reload another one.

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could you at least tell us what lot# it was



How do I tell?

What's weird is I went into the range, bought 3 boxes of 20. Had problems with all of them. Then another AR guy comes in a half hour later with a RRA carbine and shoots the stuff flawlessly. Unless , since I have crappy luck, the first 3 boxes were crap :p

Might have something to do with my gun being brand new, or just not liking it for some reason. It's chambered for 5.56mm.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 10:57:52 AM EDT
Magtec brass in 9mm is the worst. I had to cull about 200 out of 2,000 9mm brass last time I reloaded 9.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 11:53:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 11:54:33 AM EDT by TigerStripe]
Silver Bear for getting stuck in my chamber/barrel. Olympic .223. Zhukov, which gun shows would you attend, being from Texas? There is a guy who sells reloads at Houston area gunshows. Right now he sells a 75gr load that has to be loaded to 5.56 load specs and it is the most accurate ammo in my carbine. I'd give the name, but don't want to look like I'd advertizing, plus I want some to be left at the next gunshow...


TS


ETA: I've had no problems with Brown Bear 9mm ammo.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 12:35:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Magtec brass in 9mm is the worst. I had to cull about 200 out of 2,000 9mm brass last time I reloaded 9.




Ive used the 9mm brass for reloading? But that was in Late 90`s ( CBC 9mm+P )
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 12:55:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 1:07:24 PM EDT by Forest]

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:

could you at least tell us what lot# it was


How do I tell?



The lot is marked on each box. If it's not on the outside it should be marked on an inside flap


What's weird is I went into the range, bought 3 boxes of 20. Had problems with all of them. Then another AR guy comes in a half hour later with a RRA carbine and shoots the stuff flawlessly. Unless , since I have crappy luck, the first 3 boxes were crap :p
Sounds more like your rifle has a problem.

Not lubricated properly? Bad Magazines? Bad gas tube? Bad gas port?

Start a thread and perhaps we can troubleshoot it.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 1:02:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FMJ:

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Magtec brass in 9mm is the worst. I had to cull about 200 out of 2,000 9mm brass last time I reloaded 9.




Ive used the 9mm brass for reloading? But that was in Late 90`s ( CBC 9mm+P )



I should have taken pictures. The 147gr 9mm bullet looked like a curvy woman. Big at the top and bottom and thin in the middle. Not one of the brass would fit in the Dillon chamber check. I didn't know it was magtec until I looked the headstamp up on the net.

Then I hand sorted about 2k 9mm brass.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 1:09:40 PM EDT
Indian .308
A-merc
Olympic
Federal PD floor sweeps

I don't think I've ever seen Maine Cartridge ammo for sale, but I wouldn't buy it either.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 1:32:41 PM EDT
*PD
About 95% of reloads
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 2:36:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 2:37:55 PM EDT by patrickcudd]
Amerc left a bullet rattling around in my suppressor!

ETA: this was the IMI Amerc ammo
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 2:39:44 PM EDT
Reloads - mine, or anyone else's.

Sam
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 3:20:37 PM EDT
Amerc
Olympic
PMC [.45 WAY out of spec]
Indian .308
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 5:13:38 PM EDT
I have only ever used:
XM193
XM855
AE
WWB
Wolf
UM­C
Hornady Remanufactured
IMI M193 from the early 80's

the IMI is the only ammo I have ever had any problems with and I just think it was a bad lot (loaded extremely hot)

Ammo I have never shot and probably never will is :
UltraMax
Any non factory reloads
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 7:55:25 PM EDT
PCA polymer ammo of any kind.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:05:55 PM EDT
gun show reloads.


Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:14:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Samuel_Hoggson:
Reloads - mine, or anyone else's.

Sam

How about Black Hills remanufactured? tried them? i will be finding out myself soon as i have some on the way 60gr. Partitons & 68gr. moly match.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 8:27:38 PM EDT
BEcause of what I have read here:

Ultramax
"PD" ammo
Olympic

Because of personal experience:

Silver Bear 9mm (I squibbed a round in a fellow member's FA MP5...I felt like serious crap after that)
PMP .223, the brass was super soft and left shavings all over the inside of my gun and jammed up the ejector, other brass ammo did not.
A-Merc - I had problems with them 10 years ago, and from what I have seen, they ain't improved at all.
PMC 9mm 115 FMJ....dirtier than Wolf, and produces enough smoke to impede vision. I think they load it with black powder.
PMC .44 mag...out of like 500 rounds fired I have had 10 or so that were duds.
PMP 9mm multiple dud rounds per case.
Gunshow reloads/ reloads of suspect origins.

Link Posted: 3/22/2006 4:29:04 AM EDT
My .02

Wolf (9mm kaboom and failure to feed in all of my AR's)
Olympic (failure to feed in all of my AR's)
Silver Bear (failure to feed in all of my AR's)

I own a stock Armalite and RRA as well as homebuilt Recce, 20" Retro and lwt. carbine, so I am hesitant to pin the blame on the rifle instead of the ammo.
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 4:40:28 AM EDT
no more re-loads for me, unless I do it.
I bought some of that "dallas reloads" and about 30% had huge split case necks afer firing them, all about 1/4 inch long.

Link Posted: 3/22/2006 5:00:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/22/2006 5:07:01 AM EDT by tommygun2000]

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Magtec brass in 9mm is the worst. I had to cull about 200 out of 2,000 9mm brass last time I reloaded 9.



HUH????????? Are you kidding? I've reloaded tens of thousands of MagTech 9mm brass and never had any problems with it. Same goes for their .45 stuff.

Almost every police department that shoots and qualifies at the range where I shoot uses MagTech ammo and they leave their brass.....which I pick up.....all once fired. The stuff reloads like a dream in a Dillon press.

Did you get a bad lot or something? What is it that you find so bad about it?

Culling out deformed or dented brass is par for the course in reloading and I find them in every brand and caliber.

You had better check you dies and settings.....that hour glass shape is perfectly acceptable in reloads and has never hindered the performance of any of my ammo. I guage all my ammo through a Dillon guage for use in subguns and I may get one in 3000 that doesn't go and that is usually a piece of brass that has been missed during inspection and was fired in a really unsupported chamber and buldged at the base.
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 6:24:38 AM EDT
No particular order.

Ultramax
Olympic (greek)
Magtech
Independence ammo
Maine Cart.
AMERC
any commercial reloads (except Black Hills)
Indian and Paki 7.62x51
Wolf .308
anything brown bear
Wolf M193 (for now, until they fix it)
anything PD
anything shipped loose


I would reconsider the last two, if there was nothing else, and I could inspect each round)
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 11:18:24 AM EDT
S&B (Spain) 9mm simi blendo cartochos
Brown Bear
Silver Bear 9x18HP Makarov
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 12:20:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/22/2006 12:27:11 PM EDT by FMJ]

Originally Posted By Q3131A:

Originally Posted By FMJ:

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Magtec brass in 9mm is the worst. I had to cull about 200 out of 2,000 9mm brass last time I reloaded 9.




Ive used the 9mm brass for reloading? But that was in Late 90`s ( CBC 9mm+P )



I should have taken pictures. The 147gr 9mm bullet looked like a curvy woman. Big at the top and bottom and thin in the middle. Not one of the brass would fit in the Dillon chamber check. I didn't know it was magtec until I looked the headstamp up on the net.

Then I hand sorted about 2k 9mm brass.



Now that is BAD!


Black Hills BLUE BOX 77gr. loaded in WIN Brass ONLY gives my LMT 14.5 a hard time?

Hard to eject manually?

But does feed and ejects when shooting!

I find that very odd the the Lake City Brass/77gr. doesnt share that Problem?

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