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Posted: 2/23/2006 12:50:45 PM EDT
Ordered two cases of ammo. Cousin purchased last two cases in WV from local store and shipped them out to me for about $225 per 1000 case. Upon receiveing them today, I noticed that it is not Q3131A but Q3131. I know the difference between the two, IMI makes the Q3131A, but what about quality, is this still a good deal? Cases are all date stamped 05, wcc, with nato cross.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 1:11:54 PM EDT
I'd be happy myself, but then again I've never shot the A stuff.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 1:26:02 PM EDT
Read what's posted at the top

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=268283
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 1:40:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By alaman:
Read what's posted at the top

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=268283

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:02:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dilligaff:

Originally Posted By alaman:
Read what's posted at the top

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=268283




I don't understand what you are stating by refrencing this link. Q3131 is seconds? If that is the case so are Federal xm193 !!!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 3:11:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
what about quality



ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=259226

also see this on the archive server:
archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=254094
and this
archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=253863

ar-jedi






Link Posted: 2/26/2006 4:47:28 PM EDT
Ammunitionstore has two different prices - Q3131A (which is totally drying up) for $240/K. Q3131 is $210/K.

Both should be the same spec.... but after going through so many cases of the "A" without a single hiccup.... I would always prefer it. Wont be long and we wont see it ever again.... potentially, unless Winchester/Olin and IMI re-establish their contract.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 8:51:26 AM EDT
YOU ARE LUCKY! USA MADE M193 how more american can you get!

Although I think and Know my 1999 Q3131 is a bit hotter than Q3131a

1999 Q3131 26.2grs of ball type powder

Q3131A 25.8 ball type powder

Done on my Blue scale
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 8:54:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FMJ:
Although I think and Know my 1999 Q3131 is a bit hotter than Q3131a

1999 Q3131 26.2grs of ball type powder

Q3131A 25.8 ball type powder

Done on my Blue scale



That means nothing.

Velocity is what matters... difference in the burn rate of the lot of powder they used for that ammo, could EASILY make that lower charged Q3131A much hotter ammo. Measuring the weight of the powder charge is interesting, but doesnt mean much in terms of examining which will perform better in the AR15 weapon system.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:06:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
I noticed that it is not Q3131A but Q3131.



Just enjoy the ammo and rest easy at night knowing that...

BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE!
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:34:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
I noticed that it is not Q3131A but Q3131.



Just enjoy the ammo and rest easy at night knowing that...

BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE!



+1
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:38:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 9:40:18 AM EDT by FMJ]
Stop busting my Balls

the Q3131 1999 is hotter than the Q3131a I have in storage!
I keep it for that reason!

Im sorry you cant except it! I dont go around spreading lies!

maybe ask FOREST if he had any results on SOME 1999 lLOTS OF Q3131!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Its louder more of a kick I didnt go by just the powder weigt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have reloaded for years ! I think I know a Tad bit!

and just because I bought my first AR15 in 1984/85 Dont make me Stupid just Late in the game!!

and just because I dont have alot of post dont mean a thing! except more time spent out in the range[

Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:47:37 AM EDT
BTW FALARAK I know you been with use for along time! and I thank you for your help!

if you read close I said My Q3131 and Q3131a

Not all 1999 is hotter than Q3131A !!


and powder charge can give you a Idea since M193 SPECS made in the good ole USA calls for WC844 26.5grs

this give me Idea of Winchester Q3131
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