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Posted: 2/16/2006 4:59:19 PM EDT
I know some of you guys don't use wolf in your ar's and wouldn't think of it. This ? ain't for you. To the ones who do, Do you ever have problems with the tough primers. I've had a little trouble with the wolf 9mm and don't get it anymore because my guns are hit and miss with those primers. It' about 95 or 97 percent that do fire. There's usually 3 or 4 out of 50 that don't go off the first time. Is this a problem with wolf and the ar?? Thanks
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:20:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2006 5:21:10 PM EDT by Bushwacker85]
Never had a problem with hard primers. Only, and I mean the only, malfunction I ever had with Wolf was a rim being ripped off once. I have shot thousands of rounds of the stuff.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:29:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:35:47 PM EDT
No problems yet....(knock on wood) with Wolf .223, 9mm, or 45 ACP. First two in an AR, and last two in pistols.

No Expert
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:41:04 PM EDT
I have used at least 3-4k rounds through various Bushmaster rifles over the years and have never experienced this problem. Honestly, I have never experienced problems with Wolf. I have also burned about 100 rounds through my Springfield .45acp without a problem.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:46:29 PM EDT
I had a case of the 62 gr stuff back in 1999 or 2000. I had 4-5 rounds in the case not fire. Other than those few rounds I've had no problems.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:24:08 PM EDT
cool, thanks dudes!
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:53:31 PM EDT
Check that your hammer spring is not installed backwards.

Been there, done that.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 7:36:47 PM EDT
I've shot 500 to 600 rounds of Wolf 223 in one of my ARs, no problems of any kind.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 7:53:45 PM EDT
I have shot THOUSANDS of rounds of Wolf and have only had 1 malfunction due to the ammo
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 9:00:20 PM EDT
I have shot 5k through my Bushmaster with two missfire due to ammo(wolf .223) Also use the 9mm. I will continue to use Wolf.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:46:21 PM EDT
no problems with wolf 223. I have encountered the occasional hard primer in wolf 9mm. Way less frequent than you. maybe 5 per 1000. I consider it good malfunction clearance drills when it happens.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 4:15:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/17/2006 4:15:50 AM EDT by Hotgun]

Originally Posted By ODA_564:
Check that your hammer spring is not installed backwards.

Been there, done that.



Gotta love that

The owner of one of our "Dealers" on AR-15 installed my parts kit while I was waiting (no extra charge). I really wanted to DIY, but humored him.....Later, when firing, I noticed the trigger pin wants to walk-out, so I take down & find the same thing.

Althouh the rifle never has never had problems touching off a round, before or after I "fixed" it.

Hotgun
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 4:19:30 AM EDT

No problems with Wolf 55gr .223. I just bought some .45ACP and will be trying that out next time at the range.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 4:36:41 AM EDT
Notta one problem with Wolf, period.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:04:30 AM EDT
I steer clear of the 45 ACP stuff, as it blew the front site off my WWI era 1911, and blew up my friend's class III Thompson.

The other stuff (223) is great, no problems

Howard
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:20:16 AM EDT
You know, I read all the bitching about Wolf ammo on the boards here about how some AR's don't like it, it smells, so on and so forth. I dropped by my local ammo seller and that was all they had, so I figured what the hell. Shot 400 rounds of Wolf, through my Bushy, the first weekend and have gone back for more. Not one failure and it didn't stink any more than WWB. It did leave considerably more soot and crap in the gun, but a few more passes with some patches took care of that. The only problem I had with it is it shot way higher than WWB. About 6 to 8 inches higher. No big deal, couple clicks on the rear sight took care of it, but remember that if you switch back and forth between diff. ammo alot.

I am going to pick up a case of the Wolf in .223 and 9mm this weekend. Haven't tried the 9mm yet, but I don't forsee any problems.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:34:36 AM EDT
no primer problems in the 18k that I have used.
no issues at all to report.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:43:02 AM EDT
I have not had any problems with tough primers but I have had a couple primers come off and
plug up the gas key.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:43:45 PM EDT
I'm on my 10th 1000 round case of Wolf .223...the only problem I have had is when I use Wolf at a particular shooting session and then change over to brass during that session, the first brass has had a tendency to fail to extract. Drive it out with an old brass cleaning rod and keep firing and everything is fine. Also, if you get your chamber hot with a few extended bursts of Wolf, don't leave the next live round in the chamber while waiting for any time at all. Clear the chamber immediately...The polymer will cause that next one to stick too. Little idiosyncrasies to watch, but easy enough to avoid to enjoy the low price of Wolf.
Then of course a good chamber cleaning after a session with Wolf.
I also shoot 9mm, .40 sw, .45 in my pistols and have never had a malfunction. Just a little more clean-up time 'cause it does burn dirtier.
I'm shooting my first Wolf .308 in a Saiga I have and it eats it like popcorn. No problem with 400 + rounds so far.
Great ammo for the price.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 4:28:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buzter:
I know some of you guys don't use wolf in your ar's and wouldn't think of it. This ? ain't for you. To the ones who do, Do you ever have problems with the tough primers. I've had a little trouble with the wolf 9mm and don't get it anymore because my guns are hit and miss with those primers. It' about 95 or 97 percent that do fire. There's usually 3 or 4 out of 50 that don't go off the first time. Is this a problem with wolf and the ar?? Thanks




I HAVE had problems with Wolf 9mm and primers. NEVER in .223, but in 9mm, YES.

I picked up 1000 rounds of Wolf 9mm a couple years ago, and like you, I experienced 3 to 5 percent that failed to ignite on the first strike in my Glock. The glock hasn't choked before or since. I posted my experience on this board.... and it appears that nobody else ever had this problem.

I did.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 4:30:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Thomas2Dawg:
I'm on my 10th 1000 round case of Wolf .223...the only problem I have had is when I use Wolf at a particular shooting session and then change over to brass during that session, the first brass has had a tendency to fail to extract.



I have the exact same trouble with Wolf. If I shoot wolf over a weekend, I tend to stick with it all weekend. If I shoot a lot of Wolf, then switch to good hot brass cased M193, I occasionally get a stuck round like you mentioned.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 6:40:03 PM EDT
never had any problems with wolf other than its inaccurate and dirty as hell but it goes bang
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:53:27 PM EDT
i've fired about 4000 rounds of wolf, and out of it, i've had about 4-5 that were duds. Didnt bother me at all, i just chucked the dud rounds, worked my charging handle and finished off the rest of the mag.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:03:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2006 8:04:16 PM EDT by WIZZO_ARAKM14]
It was about 0 out Saturday morning at our ARFcom shoot when I popped off 600rds in 3 hours without a single problem.

It's just another notch in my belt for Wolf. I haven't had a single problem with Wolf in over 3,500rds now (and those few problems were from the Wolf-followed-by-brass issue) out of the close to 10,000rds I've bought and shot in the past 4 years.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 3:49:39 AM EDT
Every round of Wolf ammo I've ever chambered, fired just fine. I use it in 9, .45, .223, 7.62x39, 40sw, and .308.

I've shot tens of thousands of rounds of it in pistols, rifles and subguns and never had a single problem with any of it.

I'd be checking my guns if I were you.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 3:53:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ODA_564:
Check that your hammer spring is not installed backwards.

Been there, done that.



Yeah, I did the same thing on my first build
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