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Posted: 11/15/2003 10:33:38 AM EDT
Anyone know where I can still find this stuff? Thanks!
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 12:31:35 AM EDT
I don't know if it's the same as the Q4318 but Outdoors marksman has some Winchester Ranger 9mm Nato 124gr in stock. [url]http://www.outdoormarksman.com/merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=om&Category_Code=CP-090-9MM[/url]
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 12:34:52 PM EDT
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it isn't the same stuff.
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 2:55:31 PM EDT
I'm not seeing [i]any[/i] M882 Ball (9mm NATO) on the market right now. -- Chuck
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 3:29:59 PM EDT
OMB Police supply had it, Jethro! I done bought some not too long ago and such, but I can't find it on their sight!
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 3:37:39 PM EDT
Well I don't know if the IMI handgun ammo is like their .223 where they are making it for winchester as well as themselves but you can get 1000rds of IMI 124gr FMJ from [url]www.botach.com/IMI/IMIAmmo/9mm%20124gr%20FMJ.htm[/url] for $139 delivered.
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 3:40:28 PM EDT
MARKM, If he's jethro, you must be sanford!!!!
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 3:47:55 PM EDT
Shit! I can't find it on their sight! I might call them tomorrow. I would have bought some more had I known it wouldn't be available, CLEATUS!
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 4:09:53 PM EDT
markm, What's your problem?
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 1:36:45 PM EDT
OMB says the Item is [b]DISCONTINUED[/b]. That sucks because they were the only source I could find for New US Manuf. NATO 9 millie!
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 6:21:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 6:01:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By markm:
Originally Posted By JJREA: MARKM, If he's jethro, you must be sanford!!!!
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Is Wisconsin the MECCA of [b]STUPIDITY[/b]?
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No just a mecca for stupid politics
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 7:13:43 AM EDT
[url]http://www.leclairdavis.com/default.htm[/url] From their site PR03054 Ball, USA, M882: rn gm fmj; FB pr; clear PA; ring pr crimp + FC 96 $0.75 PR01865 Ball, USA, M882: rn gm fmj; FB pr; red PA; ring pr crimp + WCC 88 $0.75 PR03309 Ball, USA, M882: rn gm fmj; FB pr; red PA; ring pr crimp + WCC 89 $0.75
Link Posted: 11/19/2003 9:10:05 AM EDT
Thanks!!!
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:07:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By markm: OMB says the Item is [b]DISCONTINUED[/b]. That sucks because they were the only source I could find for New US Manuf. NATO 9 millie!
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They said they did not sell enough. Maybe we could get a group buy, and have them order some more. TXL
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 7:22:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave274: I don't know if it's the same as the Q4318 but Outdoors marksman has some Winchester Ranger 9mm Nato 124gr in stock. [url]http://www.outdoormarksman.com/merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=om&Category_Code=CP-090-9MM[/url]
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Originally Posted By MBSL: Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it isn't the same stuff.
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Now why would you say that?
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 10:08:54 AM EDT
AIM Surplus has (I think) Spanish 9mm with the NATO cross-in-circle. It's 115gr, but it does come in a neat little 250-round battlepack. $25 per pack.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 9:47:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jetlag:
Originally Posted By Dave274: I don't know if it's the same as the Q4318 but Outdoors marksman has some Winchester Ranger 9mm Nato 124gr in stock. [url]http://www.outdoormarksman.com/merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=om&Category_Code=CP-090-9MM[/url]
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Originally Posted By MBSL: Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it isn't the same stuff.
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Now why would you say that?
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Maybe its just me, but from that link and the page I don't see it. The 124gr stuff there looks like the regular white box stuff.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 4:50:28 AM EDT
Click on the link and scroll to the bottom and click for next page. It's there. The link would not work for the 2nd page.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 5:29:54 AM EDT
This is what they are refering to MBSL. Maunfacture site: [url]http://www.winchester.com/law/catalog/cfhlist.eye?cartlist=OW1tIE5hdG8%3D&typelist=none&image=on&summary=on&velocity=on&energy=on&traj=on[/url] Dealer site: [url]http://www.outdoormarksman.com/merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=om&Product_Code=93448&Category_Code=CP-090-9MM[/url]
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 8:35:17 PM EDT
Outstanding! Thanks for all the help guys!
Link Posted: 11/24/2003 12:50:51 PM EDT
Does anyone know if the Olympic ammo (124gr) has the same specs as the 9mm nato winchester stuff? I know it's decent, MOJO runs this through his mp-5 all the time and says its hot and very dependable. Thanks TXL
Link Posted: 11/24/2003 3:51:35 PM EDT
Is there a difference between RA9124N and Q4318? Both are 124 gr NATO made by WIN, but RA9124N is marketed as LEO ammo.
Link Posted: 11/24/2003 5:19:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By markm: Is there a difference between RA9124N and Q4318? Both are 124 gr NATO made by WIN, but RA9124N is marketed as LEO ammo.
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Not as far as I can tell. I have seen Q ammo change it's designation before.
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 1:35:07 PM EDT
That's good, I ordered some. I just want a sealed cartridge. I don't understand why RA9124N would be marketed as LEO ammo! It's ball ammo for crying out loud.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:06:41 AM EDT
I got some RA9124N. It is the exact same as Q4318. WCC headstamp with Nato Cross. It is just packaged in the "Ranger" box.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 1:10:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By markm: I don't understand why RA9124N would be marketed as LEO ammo! It's ball ammo for crying out loud.
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Probably because:
Law enforcement specification ammunition, pressure levels exeed industry standards.
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it's NATO spec, and not SAAMI
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:28:13 PM EDT
That's HEAVY.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 5:15:49 PM EDT
Does anyone know if the Olympic ammo (124gr) has the same specs as the 9mm nato winchester stuff? I know it's decent, MOJO runs this through his mp-5 all the time and says its hot and very dependable. Thanks TXL
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Never chronographed the two side by side, but it is a moderate load IMO. S&B 124 gr is on the slow side. MarkM: You should try some of my custom loads. They typically exceed NATO 124gr velocity by at least 100fps out of a MP5. Out of a 16" barrel they are about 200 fps hotter, and out of a good ol Beretta 92, they are about 75 fps more. NATO spec is nowhere near max for what 9mm can do, but is a solid all around load IMO.
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