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Posted: 6/17/2003 8:26:41 AM EDT
I just need it for plinking... I can get it for $3.98 per 50 rounds at Walmart. That is even cheaper than Wolf. Wolf around here goes for $2.99 per 20 rounds.

Thanks for the help. 03Mav
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 10:30:33 AM EDT
You sure that is a 50 rnd box? Our wally world has same thing but its 20 per.
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 10:49:08 AM EDT
Well, I just got back from Walmart and they ARE 20rds. per box. Damn... I should have asked to guy if I could see the box for myself yesterday. I think he looked at the grain of the rounds (55) and not the actual amount of rounds. Oh well, not as great of a deal as I first thought. Back to the original question... What do you guys think of UMC!??
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 4:24:01 PM EDT
My nephew and I have shot over 1000 rounds of UMC 55 fmj ammo in our AR's. I think it's very good plinking ammo. Haven't had any feed, pressure, or reliability problems at all. The Remington brass is good reload material without any primer crimp. I recommend it highly. It can be found at about $180 per thousand rounds. It's better than the Winchester 55gr fmj and the brass is better. Uh Oh, hope I didn't start something.
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 4:25:20 PM EDT
I got some the other day in .45. Just 230 grain ball for plinking, it ran fine and was pretty clean.
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 7:03:13 PM EDT
i've shot about 300 rounds so far with no problem. it's not burning up the chronometer or anything but it is accurate enough. try some xm193, it's nearly the same price if you look around and it's full on hot and accurate.
Link Posted: 6/17/2003 7:17:03 PM EDT
The Winchester 40 round value packs should be selling for under $8.00 a box. Shoots about the same in my Bushy.
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:00:27 AM EDT
In .45 and .32 it was pretty dirty...but ran fine and in the .32 it was better than some PMC I tried (way underloaded and shortstroked the gun numerous times). I've never been a fan of Remington ammo, since I had misfire problems in several guns with just about all of their rimfire ammo. Had some .30-06 that was good stuff, but can't comment on the .223
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 7:09:34 AM EDT
I pay $180 + tax per case of Q3131A. That's $3.60 a box. Just MHO, but I like to practice with the same stuff I might [i]need[/i] to shoot. To answer your question though, I have shot UMC in various guns (and calibers) and it always worked fine.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:28:56 PM EDT
It's great reloading ammo because it's not very hot, thus the brass doesn't get very stretched. I've had a few blown primers with it, but I have shot thousands of rounds of it over the years.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:06:51 PM EDT
I have shot thousands of rounds of their .45. It's clean, low pressure, fun-more-than-anything ammo. No idea what their .223 is like ; ) jim
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:59:05 AM EDT
put 1000's of it thru my ar--no problems-ever
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 12:43:06 PM EDT
Son (Oly PCR4) and I (DPMS A2 Classic) have shot a fair amount of UMC .223 without issues. My son's Oly seems to be partial to it. Have also had good results with UMC ammo in our M-1 Carbines and my Garand. Two FMJ target ammo brands I buy without hesitation: UMC & Federal AE.
Link Posted: 6/24/2003 10:34:47 PM EDT
It's good plinking ammo, and reloadable too.
Link Posted: 6/24/2003 11:17:44 PM EDT
Like everyone else has said, UMC is great for blasting. Not as good as Q3131, not as cheap as SA surplus, but decent, reliable and always available at wallyworld.
Link Posted: 6/25/2003 12:16:23 AM EDT
The UMC is pretty decent plinking ammo. Like everyone else has stated, it's underpowered but usually not enough to cause any real problems with short stroking. I definately prefer it to Wolf, even though it costs a little more. This ammo used to be loaded hot until a few years ago. I got my hands on a box of this not too long ago and I was surprised when I discovered it had the blast and kick of M193 ammo. Then I determined that I had grabbed a box of the older stuff and understood why it seemed more potent. UMC is alright, but not quite as good as M193.
Link Posted: 6/25/2003 6:10:45 AM EDT
Hate to be the only critic, but here goes.... Some of the UMC I've tried (.223, .308, and .357 SIG) has had some apparent quality control issues. While the .223 has been OK, some of the the UMC .308 and .357 SIG cartridges I've tried were dimensionally out of spec (yes, I brought out my calipers) and would either not chamber (.308), chamber but fail to extract (.308) or not head-space properly resulting in misfires / "hang fires" (.357 SIG). These problems introduced safety risks that I found unacceptable and pretty much soured me to all UMC ammo.
Link Posted: 6/25/2003 7:10:55 AM EDT
Bought a bunch of it at a gun show a while back. Great for plinking, but not as accurate or as clean as the 40 rd Winchester White Box at Wallyworld. I hate the smell of UMC. I like the Winchester White Box so much that I am starting to replace some of my Q3131A stockpile with it because I can shoot the Walmart stuff in both my Bushy A2 and my Ruger M77 .223 bolt-action. Both guns seem to really like it. So for a comparable price, I'd go with the Winchester over the Remmington any day.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:33:52 AM EDT
UMC and remington are owned by the same people, it's all good stuff.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 3:35:54 PM EDT
[b]Red_Label[/b] Funny how sometimes ammo is with the loading... I've personally, consistently gotten good clean-shooting ammo from UMC. A couple of years ago I bought 4 boxes of Winchester White Box and they were the dirtiest shooting ammo I've ever used. I never finished shooting it! I still have 2 boxes left. UMC's been good to me... And with the .45 on sale at Gander Mountain for $10/box, I'm in heaven ; ) I guess we may have gotten ammo from bad lots of each! jim
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