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Posted: 12/13/2002 11:51:33 AM EDT
I have seen SS109 62gr black tipped ammo for sale for $200 per 1000 rds.  I'm not up on the black tip.  The green tip is the NATO anti personal ammo.  I think?  Ive looked in the FAQ and maybe I'm missing something.  How do black and green tip compare to one another?

Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 3:19:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Where did you see this ammo at?
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 3:25:34 PM EDT
[#2]
He's probably talking about the Igman .223 SS109.

Just a guess.
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 4:12:58 PM EDT
[#3]
He's probably talking about the Igman .223 SS109.
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You mean there is some moron vendor out there selling plain SS109 with black instead of green on the tip?

Oh thats just greaaaat... so if you get a visit from the ATF just HOW are you supposed to convince them that it isn't illegal tungstin cored M995 AP ammo? Normally when you see a black tip that is what it means...
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 4:29:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Yeah, cuz we've all had the ATF stop by an inspect our ammo! [whacko]
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 4:29:18 PM EDT
[#5]
so if you get a visit from the ATF just HOW are you supposed to convince them that it isn't illegal tungstin cored M995 AP ammo? Normally when you see a black tip that is what it means.

With a magnet.
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 6:30:14 PM EDT
[#6]
you got about as much a chance of getting visited by the ATF as you do Santa Claus!

Unless of course you're really asking for it.
Link Posted: 12/13/2002 9:52:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Are you talking about this:

[url]http://www.ammunitionstore.com/Images/Ammo/A020.7.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:03:44 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes, Iam talking about the Igman SS109.  The website posted in the above reply will take you right to it.  They even advertise it as Armor Piercing!  

Someone did'nt get creative with a paintbrush, did they.  Ha Ha.

So is this stuff any good?  Better or same as the green tip?

Thanks for all this ainfo guys!
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 6:11:04 AM EDT
[#9]
The green tip is the NATO anti personal ammo.
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Green tip means "other" in NATO color standards and is only used on US M855 Ball so US soldiers know it's not M193 Ball.  US still has M16A1 rifles in service which are wildly inaccurate firing 5.56mm NATO ammo, they require M193 Ball.

Any other "green tip" ammo I suspect is painted for sale in the US commercial market, no other military has the mix of rifles we do.

Painting bullet tips black doesn't magically make them armor piercing.  [;)]

-- Chuck
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 12:55:50 PM EDT
[#10]
It isn't illegal to POSSESS or shoot .223 AP, it's just illegal to import or sell it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 1:10:34 PM EDT
[#11]
I've got some of this- AIM is selling it as well. It seemed to function fine, and was (with Iron sights at 100yds) more accurate than the S$B SS109, the winchester wally world stuff, and the SA 55gn stuff.  Seemed to shoot cleaner than the others too.

I was just plinking at little clays, and didn't shoot for group, but I was happy with it.  My only complaint was that the case mouth seemed a little "rough"
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