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Posted: 11/10/2017 8:26:57 PM EDT
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CMMG, is there any chance you’ll be releasing a pistol version with the pdw brace like the op’s pic above in this thread??
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Posted: 11/10/2017 8:58:46 PM EDT
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CMMG, is there any chance you’ll be releasing a pistol version with the pdw rbrace like the op’s pic above in this thread?? |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 1:11:04 PM EDT
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How does the 45 acp. do with various hollow points? Is feeding reliable?
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Posted: 11/11/2017 2:01:02 PM EDT
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How does 4the 45 acp. do with various hollow points? Is feeding reliable? 
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Posted: 11/11/2017 2:09:36 PM EDT
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Bump for answer?
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Looks like the cam pin design changed a little, from notched sides to a full circle. Any reason why? https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/20170428_095209.jpg https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/9/99/Cmmgmk45guardbolt2.jpg/revision/latest/zoom-crop/width/240/height/240?cb=20170721001936 |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 4:15:29 PM EDT
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Yes This review has me worried regarding hollow points: "I didn't have any luck cycling Speer hollow points, they warned me ahead of time...one malfunction per mag" Watch here Speed up to 11:29 for the above comment" If true, I'd be a little apprehensive using the Guard as a defensive weapon if more reliable options are available. FMJ for HD? Not so much. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 5:36:27 PM EDT
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How reliable is "reliable"? This review has me worried regarding hollow points: "I didn't have any luck cycling Speer hollow points, they warned me ahead of time...one malfunction per mag" Watch here Speed up to 11:29 for the above comment" If true, I'd be a little apprehensive using the Guard as a defensive weapon if more reliable options are available. FMJ for HD? Not so much. Edited Will check to with twangandbang to see the nature of the malfunctiin and which geometry was used. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 6:11:42 PM EDT
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Any hope of getting one of these to run with the Troy Tomahawk short stock? Swap the bolt and gas key, maybe add weight to the carrier.
I'm thinking about trying it once the parts are available. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 7:39:15 PM EDT
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Contact tech support with your serial number. There was a geometry change early on that increased overall rleiability with hollowpoints. Edited Will check to with twangandbang to see the nature of the malfunctiin and which geometry was used. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:40:02 PM EDT
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If you're releasing a 10mm, 460 Rowland or 45 Super version next week, which I will order, then I should be all set using hollow points right?
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:41:19 PM EDT
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One more day.
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Posted: 11/13/2017 6:20:43 PM EDT
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Bump for answer? |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:14:18 AM EDT
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Cam pin was changed for ease of production. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 4:53:43 AM EDT
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It's the 14th. I don't see anything new with the Guard.
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Posted: 11/14/2017 6:03:10 AM EDT
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It's the 14th. I don't see anything new with the Guard. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 9:27:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2017 9:40:42 AM EDT
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Is the 9mm Guard upper compatible with your MK9 lower?
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Posted: 11/14/2017 9:45:24 AM EDT
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Is the 9mm Guard upper compatible with your MK9 lower? |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 9:58:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:06:34 AM EDT
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No, they are completely different systems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the 9mm Guard upper compatible with your MK9 lower? Will you be offering a Colt mag RDB gun? |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:14:44 AM EDT
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No, they are completely different systems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<div class="quote-container"><div class="quote-style">Quoted: Is the 9mm Guard upper compatible with your MK9 lower? Will you be offering a Colt mag RDB gun? Correct, the two systems are incompatible. Eventually we will circle around to the Colt pattern lower, but current focus is getting the other 5 or 6 calibers developed and released. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:14:45 AM EDT
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So existing CMMG customers with your 9mm Colt lowers won't be able to use your new RDB uppers? Will you be offering a Colt mag RDB gun? Most DI pistol calibers use single-feed mags like Glock or greasegun. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:02:33 AM EDT
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Correct, the two systems are incompatible. Eventually we will circle around to the Colt pattern lower, but current focus is getting the other 5 or 6 calibers developed and released. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So existing CMMG customers with your 9mm Colt lowers won't be able to use your new RDB uppers? Will you be offering a Colt mag RDB gun? Eventually we will circle around to the Colt pattern lower, but current focus is getting the other 5 or 6 calibers developed and released. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:19:05 AM EDT
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May be due to difficulty trying to feed a pistol cartridge from a dual feed mag into an AR15 style extension. Most DI pistol calibers use single-feed mags like Glock or greasegun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So existing CMMG customers with your 9mm Colt lowers won't be able to use your new RDB uppers? Will you be offering a Colt mag RDB gun? Most DI pistol calibers use single-feed mags like Glock or greasegun. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:20:03 AM EDT
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Well, that is a huge letdown. I have no interest unless it runs on a RR. http://www.torkmag.com/g-block.html |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:26:13 AM EDT
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You could pull your Colt mag blocks and try one of these with Glock mags http://www.torkmag.com/g-block.html .
My blowback 9mm works perfectly with my RR right now. I don't need to add any frustration. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:29:13 AM EDT
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That's sort of neat, but it looks a bit tedious to use at the range. Each block (F&R) needs to be set-screwed in place (and tweaked for variances). Also, the mags need to be modified. It would be fun if it all worked together, but I don't feel like being a beta-tester .
My blowback 9mm works perfectly with my RR right now. I don't need to add any frustration. 
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:37:41 AM EDT
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Or sell your RR and buy a RDIAS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone tried one full auto yet...I met my SOT at the range today as my RDIAS is still in transfer from him to me. We tried to drop it in but it was a no go. There is about 1/16" of an inch too much material on the back of the "SP1 hump" on the lower for my sear to drop in. It's going to need a little bit of material removed so that was a bust...  Maybe it will work, maybe not....who knows?
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:59:21 PM EDT
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I'll be interested when you offer Colt pattern lowers
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Posted: 11/14/2017 2:25:53 PM EDT
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Just released the 9mm. I want to see a good picture of the bolt face and the barrel extension.
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Posted: 11/14/2017 6:13:57 PM EDT
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For those without facebook: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/cmmg-362519.JPG $375 for a 45 or 9mm Guard BCG/Barrel combo, not too bad  |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 6:25:45 PM EDT
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No 10mm, 45 Super or 460 Rowland. Just another 9mm?
I guess I'll get that 460 Rowland built by Ron unless you tell me the 45ACP can handle 45 Super with the heaviest weight and stronger spring. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 6:26:40 PM EDT
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So, to build from scratch, I would need at least a lower, BCG and barrel? The lower does include all proprietary componnets. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 8:58:02 PM EDT
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No 10mm, 45 Super or 460 Rowland. Just another 9mm? I guess I'll get that 460 Rowland built by Ron unless you tell me the 45ACP can handle 45 Super with the heaviest weight and stronger spring. All three of the rounds you mention probably account for 1% of all the AR PCCs currently out and about. They are simply not as ubiquitous as 9mm and .45ACP, and probably a couple other calibers like .40 and .357SIG, with folks who already have a Glock and mags and actually shoot it. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:43:00 PM EDT
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That is correct :D The lower does include all proprietary componnets. I understand that there are no guarantees on non-CMMG equipment, but is there any reason this would technically not work on New Frontier Armory uppers and glock lower sets if your build kit (barrel/bolt/carrier) is utilized? You said earlier that the CMMG components would work in a New Frontier lower on page 3, but with the talk of proprietary components above, I wanted to make sure my New Frontier receiver set would be good to go. From page 3 (Joe Bob’s Trojan is made by New Frontier): Quoted:
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CMMG Will any upper that accepts a mil spec bcg work with your Guard BCG and barrel? I want a non reciprocating side charging billet upper mated to your 460R or 45 Super kit. ;) Will it work with this one? Getting the blue balls waiting on the 45 kits, thought it was part of the big release 
Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:49:09 PM EDT
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That is correct :D The lower does include all proprietary componnets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, to build from scratch, I would need at least a lower, BCG and barrel? The lower does include all proprietary componnets. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 10:52:11 PM EDT
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So, are these in stock anywhere at normal dealer pricing? I like CMMG, but would like to save a couple of bucks. Ready to buy now.
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:13:51 PM EDT
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@CMMG I understand that there are no guarantees on non-CMMG equipment, but is there any reason this would technically not work on New Frontier Armory uppers and glock lower sets if your build kit (barrel/bolt/carrier) is utilized? You said earlier that the CMMG components would work in a New Frontier lower on page 3, but with the talk of proprietary components above, I wanted to make sure my New Frontier receiver set would be good to go. From page 3 (Joe Bobs Trojan is made by New Frontier): I see no reason why that uppers wont work. We do open the ejection port for the .45. We will make that info available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is correct :D The lower does include all proprietary componnets. I understand that there are no guarantees on non-CMMG equipment, but is there any reason this would technically not work on New Frontier Armory uppers and glock lower sets if your build kit (barrel/bolt/carrier) is utilized? You said earlier that the CMMG components would work in a New Frontier lower on page 3, but with the talk of proprietary components above, I wanted to make sure my New Frontier receiver set would be good to go. From page 3 (Joe Bobs Trojan is made by New Frontier): Quoted:
<div class="quote-container"><div class="quote-style">Quoted: CMMG Will any upper that accepts a mil spec bcg work with your Guard BCG and barrel? I want a non reciprocating side charging billet upper mated to your 460R or 45 Super kit. ;) Will it work with this one? Getting the blue balls waiting on the 45 kits, thought it was part of the big release
Thanks! We have not conducted any testing with anyone elses components. Mag angle and height are critical for reliability. Iffy at best. We do expect most uppers on the market to be comatible with our system. You can shoot a message over to [email protected] for any 45 kit questions. Im not 100% sure if all kits were added today. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:16:18 PM EDT
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So, are these in stock anywhere at normal dealer pricing? I like CMMG, but would like to save a couple of bucks. Ready to buy now. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:53:53 PM EDT
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What distributers carry these, I wanna have my dealer order a complete guard.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:59:51 AM EDT
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Come now....you can't honestly say you're surprised 9mm was the second caliber rolled out. All three of the rounds you mention probably account for 1% of all the AR PCCs currently out and about. They are simply not as ubiquitous as 9mm and .45ACP, and probably a couple other calibers like .40 and .357SIG, with folks who already have a Glock and mags and actually shoot it. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 8:48:42 AM EDT
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Also, there are 33 items listed under 9mm on your website as of Tuesday evening, and only 9 items listed under 45… where are the build kits for 45? Is it something you need to call in and order, dealer only, or? Getting the blue balls waiting on the 45 kits, thought it was part of the big release
Thanks! https://www.cmmginc.com/product-category/barrels/45acp/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:05:25 PM EDT
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How soon is the Key-mod going away?
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:11:01 PM EDT
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How soon is the Key-mod going away? |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:18:22 PM EDT
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Anything we produce can be special ordered with m-lok
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Posted: 11/15/2017 2:37:38 PM EDT
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CMMG,
Which distributors are stocking the builder's kits? I've searched and haven't found them anywhere other than your website. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 2:41:35 PM EDT
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CMMG,
What buffer are you using in the Guard? Does the Guard's barrel have M4 feed ramps? Any issues using a Pistol MUR upper? https://www.quartercircle10.com/products/receivers/upper-receivers/pistol-mur.html |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:11:22 PM EDT
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CMMG, Which distributors are stocking the builder's kits? I've searched and haven't found them anywhere other than your website. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 5:17:19 PM EDT
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FWIW, many love the keymod.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 5:20:11 PM EDT
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FWIW, many love the keymod. http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2016/01/25/m-lok-versus-keymod-what-do-the-sales-say/ |
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