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Posted: 1/21/2006 3:50:58 PM EDT
Have a small bolt bounce issue and need to slow things down a bit.

1200 rpm is just a little too fast
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:56:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Have a small bolt bounce issue and need to slow things down a bit.

1200 rpm is just a little too fast



Where you get 1200 from ar15/M16 ? L7A1 and 2.9oz CAR buffer in a CAR stock ?

These buffer is available from Ken Elmore @ Specialized Armament Sales, scroll down to the buffers
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:08:55 AM EDT

Where you get 1200 from ar15/M16 ?


ISMI carbine spring & an H buffer (3.8 oz)...

Just tap the trigger and 10 rnds are down range. Kinda like buckshot

Thx for the link.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 11:01:13 AM EDT
If you're shooting 9mm you might try the "Q" buffer as well these are really nice in a 9mm AR/16... in the EE here

also RRA 9mm buffers for $20 here.

Wonder what an enidine buffer would do...
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:08:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2006 6:10:37 PM EDT by HKPDW]
Here's a quick vid of a 9mm AR15 using a standard AR15 carbine buffer spring and an "H" Buffer (3.80 oz). Chrono average was just under 850 Rounds Per Minute.

This is what happens when you use a 5.56mm H-buffer in a 9mm rifle:

H Buffer Bolt Bounce Failure

Those water jugs had a chance after all
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:35:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 7:00:41 PM EDT
i run the mgi buffer in my 9mm carbine

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=241393
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 4:57:10 AM EDT
A little update on my buffer/spring experiment since someone kicked it back up to the top...

A friend and myself were trying different buffer/spring combos to see how high we could get the ROF (Rate Of Fire) from a 9mm rifle. I once fired a Glock 18 and thought it might be fun to replicate something that had a similar ROF (around 1200 rpm).

During our experiment, we found that:

1. Using an ISMI buffer spring w/ standard 3.0 OZ (.223) carbine buffer had the highest rate of fire with a ROF of 1177 rpm (average w/ five BB failures).
2. Still using the ISMI buffer spring and an "H" 3.8OZ (.223) carbine buffer the ROF declined to 1058 rpm (average w/ two BB failures).
3. Still using the ISMI bufffer spring and a RRA buffer 5.6 OZ (9mm) carbine buffer the ROF declined dramatically to 723 rpm (average w/ no BB failures).
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1. Using an standard CAR buffer spring w/ standard 3.0 OZ (.223) carbine buffer had the highest rate of fire with an avrage ROF of 967 rpm (average w/ one BB failure).
2. Still using the standard CAR buffer spring and an "H" buffer 3.8OZ (.223) carbine buffer the ROF declined to 863 rpm (average w/ one BB failure).
3. Still using the standard CAR buffer spring and a RRA buffer 5.6 OZ (9mm) carbine buffer the ROF declined to 610 rpm (average w/ no BB failures).

Only the RRA 9mm buffer fired five (20 round) strings with no boult bounce issues.

My unqualified opinion is to utilize an ISMI buffer spring and a RRA 9mm for the most dependable, lowest cost and highest ROF option.

Next month.... The "how slow can we go" experiment.










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