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Posted: 10/5/2019 8:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BRN-180: shown here. is yours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_92gdvsv-U  Attached File |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2019 9:02:42 PM EDT
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I think the pinned barrel upper i got sent was probably a one off. Guess if you have enough barrels fall off for you they will make sure it doesn't happen again.
My BRN 180 is doing great, it has over 1000 rounds through it without issue. Got a Primary Arms 2.5x mounted on it and it maintains 2moa easily at 100 yards. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2019 3:14:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Timon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brownells:
If anyone has any issues, please do not hesitate to utilize our return policy. We have ID'd some corrective issues for future uppers, which are: Dust covers are being altered, if you need a replacement, please PM us on this forum. Gas port size is being opened up to avoid any short stroking issues. PWS is test fitting on more lowers to ensure better compatibility. The burr issue has been noted and passed to PWS. All BRN-180 Uppers are test fired with ten rounds, including the first run. We are going to alter the test firing regimen to include rounds with a full magazine, with the port cover closed, as well as five only in the magazine to ensure bolt lock back.  RGR CALIFORNIA COMPLIANT FIXED MAGAZINE BREAK ACTION AR15 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2019 10:51:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Texasag10]
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USA
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Posted: 11/12/2019 11:32:11 AM EDT
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Oh snap that’s sweet.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:19:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySharp. The wood looks great - Where did you source the diaopter sight set? Thanks |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2019 11:46:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Texasag10]
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Posted: 11/13/2019 12:32:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's sweet 
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Posted: 11/13/2019 9:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BRN-180:
If you sell 20 I will be shocked. They won't be cheap. Maybe $250-$300 range I would guess. If it was tied to Brownells I could stomach one but if it isn't ever, than I will pass. Just to hideous. Nothing more than a undesirable AR-15 lower. Nobody would stomach the Brownell’s Retro guns if NDS wasn’t involved. It’s not the other way around. ~Augee |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2019 8:19:49 AM EDT
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Any idea if spare parts will ever be available?
Namely interested in bolts. |
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Posted: 11/16/2019 11:24:40 AM EDT
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How long overall is a 16” brn180 from the tip threaded muzzle to the back end of the lower receiver? Or with muzzle device on how long is it?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2019 9:51:31 PM EDT
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Anybody get the 18.5" over the 16" and why? Any difference in the function or length of the piston?
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Posted: 11/27/2019 4:19:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcooper:
How long overall is a 16” brn180 from the tip threaded muzzle to the back end of the lower receiver? Or with muzzle device on how long is it? I come up with 23 5/8th" muzzle to back of lower receiver. To the tip of the flash hider it's 25 1/8th" I didn't take off the FH but stuck a rod in and subtracted the distance. |
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Posted: 11/27/2019 4:30:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2019 9:12:26 PM EDT
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That looks awesome.....sorta wanting a 180 upper now.
Dangit. I wonder if there's any hope of brownells making a retro-styled upper? I know it wouldn't look just like the original 180 but I just don't like ge look of full freefloat uppers |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2019 2:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrantS:
That looks awesome.....sorta wanting a 180 upper now. Dangit. I wonder if there's any hope of brownells making a retro-styled upper? I know it wouldn't look just like the original 180 but I just don't like ge look of full freefloat uppers Anyone has any idea if/when shorty will be available? It was in pre-production, looks like from earlier posts, in September, and there is nothing on Brownell's site. It's not available, which is troubling, also lack of spare parts, like bolts. I hope it wasn't a short run that they did and parts will be available, but when? It has been almost a year. The square bolts alone would be worth while to sell. The complete upper is kind of pricey plus I got fucked on the upper because when ordered 18" was only available, now it looks like 18" on better sale proly because most people buy 16". This sucks. Are muzzle threads on this thing custom or regular AR threads? 1/2x28? |
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Posted: 12/2/2019 3:40:40 PM EDT
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Uh, they are in stock and on sale.
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/brn-180s-ar-15-complete-upper-receiver-assembly-prod127762.aspx The pic I posted is the shorty upper. 
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Posted: 12/3/2019 11:04:50 AM EDT
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I ordered a BRN-180s Gonna put it on my SBR lower.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2019 6:27:09 PM EDT
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Will the piston be susceptible to failure, damage, or simply making it tougher to clean since it is not protected by closed hand-guards? The pistons in AKs and 180/180B's are protected under hand-guards and other assemblies. The rail system would clearly protect from direct physical harm, but does that mean this is just a fair weather bench rifle or do the materials, linkages, and the PSIs involved make everything a non-issue except for maybe cleaning (not even thinking of a"torture test").
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Posted: 12/3/2019 10:56:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
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I wouldn't worry about that.
The FF tube on the BRN-180 is going to take more impact than the old handguards. It just needs some panels for the heat. And the original hand guards had holes all along the top exposing the gas system anyways. PWS put some serious round counts on these uppers during testing, I don't remember exactly what number Dean said but it surprised the heck out of me. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2019 3:30:46 PM EDT
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Well, I have absolutely no complaints over the BRN-180 and PWS at this point.
My 16" BRN-180 upper is still working great and has no sign of failure or issue, I have only had a single failure in the rifle it is on and it was a magazine feed issue (occurred when same mag was used in a CZ BREN as well). Gotta be approaching 3,000 rounds through it based on how much brass I got sitting around.  No sign of excessive wear on anything. Action stays clean, front end gets hot but that's where piston guns will dump more heat unlike AR15s putting it into the bolt carrier group.
Shoots smooth and accurate, is compact and light. I gotta say I love how it performs with a low (2.5x) power optic on it. PWS reached out to me because the suppressor cup was forgotten in the upper they sent me, they quickly mailed me the piston cup. I forgot that it even was missing that. They were really quick to address all this and I greatly appreciate that. Wouldn't have said I was happy with the purchase 3 months ago but I definitely am now. They seem to have ironed out the kinks. |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 4:25:20 PM EDT
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Dean is a really good guy and they make great products.
Considering the short development time and the require parameters, I think they hit it out of the park. 
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2019 5:55:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds:
Dean is a really good guy and they make great products. Considering the short development time and the require parameters, I think they hit it out of the park. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91277/NDS-18C_a_JPG-1190653.jpg |
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Posted: 12/10/2019 6:51:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conda: How could I get my hands on one of those AR180 style AR15 lowers? That thing looks awesome. https://www.nodakspud.com/ |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2019 5:44:45 PM EDT
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I just picked up my NDS-1815 lower the other day, all I’ve got to say is wow! I absolutely love this lower!! If you are interested in getting or already have an BRN-180 upper I highly suggest you order one of these lowered you will not be disappointed, I absolutely love mine I just have to get the 180S upper.
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Posted: 12/13/2019 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Awesome, glad to hear you like it.
Post pics when you get it build. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2019 10:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds:
Awesome, glad to hear you like it.
Post pics when you get it build. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 10:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds:
Call into the shop. They're in stock/ready to ship. https://www.nodakspud.com/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds:
Originally Posted By conda: How could I get my hands on one of those AR180 style AR15 lowers? That thing looks awesome. https://www.nodakspud.com/ |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 9:55:47 AM EDT
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Will there be an 8” model coming?
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Posted: 12/16/2019 4:59:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JaketheSnake:
Will we will see these lowers on the brownells store front. We rarely have resellers. |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 9:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote History@Texasag10.
Specs on the folding stock and adapter please |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 12:29:37 AM EDT
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I don't suppose anyone with the 1815 lower would happen to have a wolf T91 upper to see how it would look?
I am tnhinking that would be a unique looking addition for my 12.5" 91 upper |
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Posted: 12/20/2019 5:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrantS:
I don't suppose anyone with the 1815 lower would happen to have a wolf T91 upper to see how it would look? I am tnhinking that would be a unique looking addition for my 12.5" 91 upper 
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USA
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Posted: 12/21/2019 4:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrantS:
I don't suppose anyone with the 1815 lower would happen to have a wolf T91 upper to see how it would look? I am tnhinking that would be a unique looking addition for my 12.5" 91 upper  It will be a bit before I get it together though, working on finishing my MARS-H and MARS-L rifles first.
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Posted: 12/22/2019 12:05:51 AM EDT
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Oooh awesome. I await a future report with picture
Unless I get impatient and order it.....lol.. |
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Posted: 12/26/2019 11:16:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
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Quick little shooting video I did last weekend.
 BRN-180 uppers on NDS-1815 lowers |
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Posted: 12/27/2019 8:50:54 PM EDT
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Is it wrong that if I had the skills I'd love to buy a few of these uppers and make some bullpups?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2019 10:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds:
Dean is a really good guy and they make great products. Considering the short development time and the require parameters, I think they hit it out of the park. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91277/NDS-18C_a_JPG-1190653.jpg Where can we get the stock and adapter? |
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Posted: 12/29/2019 11:30:55 PM EDT
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The one in that photo isn't ready yet.
I'm trying to get Armalite to do a run of buttstocks but so far they have been non-responsive. We do have another plan just in case. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2020 2:21:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cfuzz]
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Anybody heard if brownell plans on doing a 14.5 version?
Anybody have any information on the I.D. of the gas system and length of the gas port if one were to swap out a barrel for 14.5? Is the 16" upper a carbine or mid-length gas system or is it a unique length? |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2020 10:31:05 AM EDT
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Can anyone compare the recoil of the BRN-180 uppers to comparably-sized standard AR15s?
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Posted: 1/3/2020 2:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdecro00:
Can anyone compare the recoil of the BRN-180 uppers to comparably-sized standard AR15s? I'd say recovery time with the shorty was a tad longer for me in the video I posted above. Having the stock set so short was part of it also. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2020 6:45:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cfuzz:
Anybody heard if brownell plans on doing a 14.5 version? Anybody have any information on the I.D. of the gas system and length of the gas port if one were to swap out a barrel for 14.5? Is the 16" upper a carbine or mid-length gas system or is it a unique length? |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2020 1:23:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdecro00:
Can anyone compare the recoil of the BRN-180 uppers to comparably-sized standard AR15s? |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 12:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cfuzz:
bueller? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cfuzz:
Originally Posted By cfuzz:
Anybody heard if brownell plans on doing a 14.5 version? Anybody have any information on the I.D. of the gas system and length of the gas port if one were to swap out a barrel for 14.5? Is the 16" upper a carbine or mid-length gas system or is it a unique length? The gas port location on an AR-180/BRN-180 is closest to a rifle length system on an AR15. However, the port is closer to the receiver by at least a half inch. |
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Posted: 1/6/2020 4:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dusted: The 16” is lighter recoil than a standard 16” midlength AR, the BRN180 has a 4-6oz reciprocating mass advantage depending on buffer weight. |
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Posted: 1/6/2020 5:29:50 PM EDT
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Race guns have been using low mass carriers for years.
You just have to balance the gas pressure and springs to match. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/8/2020 1:42:47 PM EDT
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After digesting Brownell's info page on the upper, and especially after seeing that reciprocating charging handle, I started plotting to get one. I think this is actually the revolution they say it is.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2020 6:19:03 PM EDT
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However, now my state is planning to ban AR15s, with confiscation, so nothing new for me until this settles out.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 8:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1saxman:
However, now my state is planning to ban AR15s, with confiscation, so nothing new for me until this settles out. |
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