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Posted: 12/1/2022 4:43:03 PM EDT
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 Attached FileFound this pretty useful shooting today. Charging handle cover that makes manipulating much easier. From OTDefense. Pretty good investment for $17. |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 7:25:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20221201_133317_jpg-2620271.JPG Found this pretty useful shooting today. Charging handle cover that makes manipulating much easier. From OTDefense. Pretty good investment for $17. Have you had any issues with spent shell deflection? |
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Posted: 12/3/2022 9:08:28 PM EDT
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Ejection pattern didn't seem to change.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 12/18/2022 12:53:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: L45]
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Thanks for the heads up on the charging handle cover!
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Posted: 12/18/2022 11:21:16 AM EDT
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Hope it works out for you.
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Posted: 12/18/2022 6:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20221201_133317_jpg-2620271.JPG Found this pretty useful shooting today. Charging handle cover that makes manipulating much easier. From OTDefense. Pretty good investment for $17. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:16:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ghostface]
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Saved space and a bump. I finally built mine three days ago, I’ll take some pics and give you all a warning/heads up.
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Posted: 3/24/2023 11:57:52 PM EDT
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I haven't shot mine yet.
But just posting pics.  
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 2:33:09 AM EDT
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Right hand people, are you running the charging handle like on an AK?
Charging handle placement looks more awkward than on an AK. |
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Posted: 4/7/2023 11:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1BoredGuy: Right hand people, are you running the charging handle like on an AK? Charging handle placement looks more awkward than on an AK. Not usually. I'm much faster just hitting the bolt release like I would on an AR. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 12:03:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1BoredGuy: Right hand people, are you running the charging handle like on an AK? Charging handle placement looks more awkward than on an AK. Charging handle originally was "meh" at best. The extended charging handle I added to mine makes manipulation far easier and far more comfortable on your hand. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 12:12:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michealj: Not usually. I'm much faster just hitting the bolt release like I would on an AR. this is the way to do it. not handicapped by the AK manual-of-arms. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 10:20:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2023 9:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Charging handle originally was "meh" at best. The extended charging handle I added to mine makes manipulation far easier and far more comfortable on your hand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Originally Posted By 1BoredGuy: Right hand people, are you running the charging handle like on an AK? Charging handle placement looks more awkward than on an AK. Charging handle originally was "meh" at best. The extended charging handle I added to mine makes manipulation far easier and far more comfortable on your hand. I just picked up the OT Defense nub. I thought it looked big and clunky before I put it on, but once installed I feel like it should have been there from the beginning. Made a world of difference. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2023 8:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosie87: Has any cut, threaded, and pinned a 16" barrel version down to 14.5". Any issues with the gas system? I'd like to know this as well. |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 9:40:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Victor39: I'd like to know this as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Victor39: Originally Posted By Rosie87: Has any cut, threaded, and pinned a 16" barrel version down to 14.5". Any issues with the gas system? I'd like to know this as well. That might depend on the muzzle device being attached. I know on my 180S, if I want or need to remove the handguard, my suppressor mount needs to come off first as the rail won’t slide over the mount. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 9:53:27 PM EDT
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PWS sent me a new op rod and gas valves for my 180S 223 10".
I cannot seem to install the update parts. Do I have to pull the gas block? |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 9:56:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By czgunner: PWS sent me a new op rod and gas valves for my 180S 223 10". I cannot seem to install the update parts. Do I have to pull the gas block? I screwed with mine for a while, and I'm a cripple, literally partially paralyzed. Once I had it sorted it went together literally one handed. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 9:57:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: That might depend on the muzzle device being attached. I know on my 180S, if I want or need to remove the handguard, my suppressor mount needs to come off first as the rail won't slide over the mount. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 9:31:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNRonin: No. Have you removed the old parts? If so, the new parts go in that way. LOL I screwed with mine for a while, and I'm a cripple, literally partially paralyzed. Once I had it sorted it went together literally one handed. The new parts include a bushing that butts up again the receiver. My original parts did not have that. With that extra material, I cannot just put it back together and why I posted the question. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 9:41:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By czgunner: The new parts include a bushing that butts up again the receiver. My original parts did not have that. With that extra material, I cannot just put it back together and why I posted the question. |
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Posted: 5/3/2023 9:23:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kisara]
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For those with the SB Tactical TF1913 triangle brace, how are you mounting the rear of a sling? I have a lower with a KNS adapter on the back of my lower receiver, so I can't install a sling mount endplate like normal AR-15 lowers can. I searched google images and although there are several photos of BRN-180 uppers on pistols with these triangle braces, none had slings installed.
This is what I have: 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2023 2:37:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kisara: For those with the SB Tactical TF1913 triangle brace, how are you mounting the rear of a sling? I have a lower with a KNS adapter on the back of my lower receiver, so I can't install a sling mount endplate like normal AR-15 lowers can. I searched google images and although there are several photos of BRN-180 uppers on pistols with these triangle braces, none had slings installed. This is what I have: https://www.brownells.com.au/image/cache/image/data/products/923000071_3-500x500.jpg I don't have the brace so I'm not sure if the CMMG option will work. Looks like the brace might not clear a qd swivel unless it's mounted high. Anyway, here are what I've found as far as sling mounts for that area. https://cmmg.com/zeroed-picatinny-end-cap I have this^ end plate with a Mid West folding stock adapter. https://www.strikeindustries.com/si-ar-psa.html Google image search turned up Kit Badger's improvised sling attachment.  |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 3:37:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kisara: For those with the SB Tactical TF1913 triangle brace, how are you mounting the rear of a sling? I have a lower with a KNS adapter on the back of my lower receiver, so I can't install a sling mount endplate like normal AR-15 lowers can. I searched google images and although there are several photos of BRN-180 uppers on pistols with these triangle braces, none had slings installed. This is what I have: https://www.brownells.com.au/image/cache/image/data/products/923000071_3-500x500.jpg Worst case, there's always the Strike Industries adapter that has a reversible QD swivel built in. Looks like it'll add about 1/2" LOP from the photos. 
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Posted: 5/4/2023 11:20:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: beitodesstrafe]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar: Worst case, there's always the Strike Industries adapter that has a reversible QD swivel built in. Looks like it'll add about 1/2" LOP from the photos. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefirearmblog.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F11%2FADAPTER-03.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=bc1400076b730d90cacdf2ea00b225705de5ef7ffd066f96542d0c0d25b977ee&ipo=images Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar: Originally Posted By Kisara: For those with the SB Tactical TF1913 triangle brace, how are you mounting the rear of a sling? I have a lower with a KNS adapter on the back of my lower receiver, so I can't install a sling mount endplate like normal AR-15 lowers can. I searched google images and although there are several photos of BRN-180 uppers on pistols with these triangle braces, none had slings installed. This is what I have: https://www.brownells.com.au/image/cache/image/data/products/923000071_3-500x500.jpg Worst case, there's always the Strike Industries adapter that has a reversible QD swivel built in. Looks like it'll add about 1/2" LOP from the photos. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefirearmblog.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F11%2FADAPTER-03.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=bc1400076b730d90cacdf2ea00b225705de5ef7ffd066f96542d0c0d25b977ee&ipo=images That's what I have on mine.  (And same pic from above)
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:54:31 PM EDT
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I looked closer at the back of the brace, and my sling tail fit right through. I'm afraid the sling might pull the rubber off the end, as the whole brace is pretty flimsy. Time will tell, but for now it will work. Thanks guys for your help.
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Posted: 6/18/2023 9:05:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2023 1:16:00 PM EDT
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So I contacted PWS earlier and they sent me a bunch of new gas system parts and springs; a retrofit kit for earlier (mine was 2021 dated) BRN-180s that were having return to battery or bolt bounce issues, like mine. I'm happy to say that the parts seem to have cured my problems in that regard.
What problem wasn't fixed, was as soon as I put it into suppressed mode and put a can on it, I can't get more than 2 mags through it before the hairpin clip at the end of the gas piston pops off and disappears. It instantly turns the gun into a single shot in either suppressed or unsuppressed mode. To start the day - I put 3 or 4 30 round mags through it unsuppressed; switched the gas plug to the suppressed position and verified that the clip was still in place and firmly seated when rotating the plug; put the can on and went through 2 more mags perfectly (this was the most I had run it suppressed or unsuppressed without any cycling problems; yay!)...but as soon as I tried to start on the 3rd mag suppressed, it was a single shot only gun and the clip had gone missing. Of course I forgot to bring more clips with it... I don't know if it's the heat just causing the clip to deform and loosen up, or if it's something specific with shooting suppressed. The clip was brand new, the gun had never been fired with that clip in place, so it wasn't a fatigue thing. The handguard/barrel aren't close enough to firmly lock the clip in place and prevent it from drifting off, sadly. I'll need to play around with some things when I take it apart for cleaning... This is on a 223/5.56 gun btw - shooting M855, either Federal or IMI (it was a mix of both in my mags). |
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USA
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Posted: 8/9/2023 11:11:14 PM EDT
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Evil Ed, what position does the piston wind up in once the clip pops off and it goes single-shot?
Just trying to gather more info and maybe help with some ideas. Obviously, the force of the gas should keep the piston seated in the gas block while the cup/op-rod move rearward. Possible the piston or gas block could be out of spec and gas is leaking through the other, unused, setting hole (in your case the larger hole for the un-suppressed setting) and forward through the block causing the piston to unseat/rotate from the notch and knocking the hairpin clip loose. Or the piston cup is catching on the piston and dragging it rearward from the gas block just enough to alter the setting (and knock the clip off)? Just spitballing here. Im an idiot. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 3:56:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JD42]
[#30]
Piston rifle day.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2023 10:50:55 PM EDT
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I’ve got a SilencerCo SCO-15 lower that I’m considering putting a BRN-180 upper on.
Am a little concerned about the dust cover location with regards to the ambi bolt release. Has anyone tried this combination yet? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2023 3:06:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryMy problem with that stock is how do you attach a sling to it? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:38:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joelad: My problem with that stock is how do you attach a sling to it? Can you drill it out and pop in a QD sling swivel? |
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Posted: 9/28/2023 6:34:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joelad: My problem with that stock is how do you attach a sling to it? Remove the buttplate Drill the body with a forstner bit Insert a Noveske QD cup Reinstall butt plate |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 3:59:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Anyone trying this folding charging handle from KNS precision?
KNS BRN-180 charging handle  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/30/2023 9:21:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Useafortyfive: Anyone trying this folding charging handle from KNS precision? KNS BRN-180 charging handle https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/359239/IMG_2956_jpeg-3008724.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/359239/IMG_2955_jpeg-3008726.JPG I tried to find reviews of it on the boob tube. No luck. That'd be kind of curious to see how it functions since the charging handle on the factory is designed as a brass deflector. Once I install the nub on the end on both my guns it's been night and day as far as manipulating. But I do like that folding handle. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:26:28 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileGot the KNS folding charging handle. Seems pretty nice. Folded detent is pretty solid to keep it in that position. I need to see how it shoots and get used to that manual of arms. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2024 6:46:28 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joelad: My problem with that stock is how do you attach a sling to it? The same way the Early M16A1s did . . . |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 8:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moldymuffin: Evil Ed, what position does the piston wind up in once the clip pops off and it goes single-shot? Just trying to gather more info and maybe help with some ideas. Obviously, the force of the gas should keep the piston seated in the gas block while the cup/op-rod move rearward. Possible the piston or gas block could be out of spec and gas is leaking through the other, unused, setting hole (in your case the larger hole for the un-suppressed setting) and forward through the block causing the piston to unseat/rotate from the notch and knocking the hairpin clip loose. Or the piston cup is catching on the piston and dragging it rearward from the gas block just enough to alter the setting (and knock the clip off)? Just spitballing here. Im an idiot. Sorry just seeing this - it doesn't move off of where it should be (so still suppressed), but the plug moves in and out and basically makes it a single shot after that. I think the can I have for it is just so restrictive that it pops the clip off when it moves since it's an older can and really overgasses things. I don't know if this is an issue only on the 10" guns, or if it effects full size ones too...I'm kind of tempted to get a full size upper to see, but I also don't want to spend another pile of money just to have the same problem and a gun I can't run suppressed. The whole idea for me was to try to move away from DI for suppressed guns, something I can shoot that won't take a bunch of solvents and a lot of soaking time to clean up (and maybe something I can let get cruddy and it'll still work ) but so far it's not working out 
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Posted: 1/29/2024 8:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ed: Sorry just seeing this - it doesn't move off of where it should be (so still suppressed), but the plug moves in and out and basically makes it a single shot after that. I think the can I have for it is just so restrictive that it pops the clip off when it moves since it's an older can and really overgasses things. I don't know if this is an issue only on the 10" guns, or if it effects full size ones too...I'm kind of tempted to get a full size upper to see, but I also don't want to spend another pile of money just to have the same problem and a gun I can't run suppressed. The whole idea for me was to try to move away from DI for suppressed guns, something I can shoot that won't take a bunch of solvents and a lot of soaking time to clean up (and maybe something I can let get cruddy and it'll still work ) but so far it's not working out Just giving you a data point. I shoot a Resonator R2 frequently with my 10.5 with no issues. Once my fat cat arrives I can give input on it as well. |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 10:56:05 PM EDT
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I've actually got a plan B for this...I pierced a length of 550 cord with the horseshoe clip and tied that cord off on the handguard, basically tying the horseshoe clip to the gun. I'm curious if it gets ejected, or bent, or something else happens to it. Since I can't really shoot the thing into a box until it fails to see what happens...this might be the easiest way
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USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 7:26:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Any sightings of the Gen 3 upper at shot show?
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Posted: 2/5/2024 9:17:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Surprised to see that Brownells is showing their BRN-180 lower "no longer available."
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/brn-180-stripped-lower-receiver-forged/ I've always thought this was the best looking option considering it more closely resembles the original AR-180.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 10:11:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Evil_Ed]
[#44]
Oh wow you're right - I was actually just considering selling my pistol that I pieced together with a Gen 2 upper and stripped lower...I wonder if Brownells has a gen 2 lower in the works or something? Not that I'm seeing a whole lot that needs to be updated or changed on the lower to warrant a gen 2?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Brownells-BRN-180-lower-discontinued-/333-305148/ Brownells thinks they've run their course? I'm guessing they're not getting any feedback on them one way or the other? |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 12:34:42 PM EDT
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Probably just didn’t sell well. I thought about buying a second when they were cheap but I am not sure if I want two yet. I am intrigued by the idea of the bull pup setups.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 2:37:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BPR: Surprised to see that Brownells is showing their BRN-180 lower "no longer available." https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/brn-180-stripped-lower-receiver-forged/ I've always thought this was the best looking option considering it more closely resembles the original AR-180. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44835/IMG_6779_resize_jpg-3118951.JPG Yes……the Brownells lower is what I used |
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