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Posted: 5/17/2021 7:05:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Nice Dutch AR10.
49 here. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 9:18:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm seriously leaning that way. I have a C7 upper, but that wouldn't look right unless I did an IDF build. Nodak is out of A1 uppers until at least the end of June. I have a line on a proper aluminum stock, and I have a lower that while not correct, will do. I just need to send the barrel I have to JT for a chop and channel, add his moderator and I'm in business. Does yours have the correct style moderator? Does it feel muzzle heavy with it on there? JT's are made of steel so I'm wondering if it feels heavy on the end of that skinny barrel.... Yes steel, 4.25”, I think, on a 12-1/2” barrel Feels good, does not seem nose heavy to me. I had this barrel turned down to .625  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:51:40 PM EDT
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73 here, still stickin', tickin' and kickin'. Guess so far I'm the second most retro in years here but I'm a babe in the woods retro knowledge wise compared to most of you!
Ha! I used to be the youngest of my peers in the Army as in my case they waived college requirement, letting me in electronics school right out of high school (thank you JFK and the 1960s space race plus my 4 years of college prep). Now I'm the oldest of my buddies. Times change fast! |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 6:35:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 68! How old were you when you legged out, you number is not much higher than mine? (#2083) Legged out in May 2013. I'd have never made it if not for cataract surgery. Fought eyesight issues for about 10 years but legged out in 8 matches after getting the cataracts jerked out. Got points in four of them, ammo problems in another, screwed my own pooch in two and flat-out got whupped like a rented mule in another. Pro tip: When the eye doc tells you you're getting "baby" cataracts but they aren't bad enough to fix yet, start raising hell about getting them fixed because the eyecare industry is centered around getting your a$$ into and out of that exam chair as quickly as possible with just enough of a prescription to let you drive home without running over somebody. Driven of course by rat-bastard insurance companies. Fine for 99% of the population but competitive shooters don't live in that world. You have to be just about blind before they'll do something about it, unless you squawk your head off like a flock of seagulls. Anyway, is my take on it. And that is why I preach and rant to not suffer in silence about eyesight. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 7:33:58 AM EDT
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Only 28.
That 1957 ar-10 early on in this thread is amazing |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 3:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legged out in May 2013. I'd have never made it if not for cataract surgery. Fought eyesight issues for about 10 years but legged out in 8 matches after getting the cataracts jerked out. Got points in four of them, ammo problems in another, screwed my own pooch in two and flat-out got whupped like a rented mule in another. Pro tip: When the eye doc tells you you're getting "baby" cataracts but they aren't bad enough to fix yet, start raising hell about getting them fixed because the eyecare industry is centered around getting your a$$ into and out of that exam chair as quickly as possible with just enough of a prescription to let you drive home without running over somebody. Driven of course by rat-bastard insurance companies. Fine for 99% of the population but competitive shooters don't live in that world. You have to be just about blind before they'll do something about it, unless you squawk your head off like a flock of seagulls. Anyway, is my take on it. And that is why I preach and rant to not suffer in silence about eyesight. My hats off to you, I know how hard it was to do getting my last one at 50, you did it at almost 60, wow. I spent some time learning how to get over vertical stringing, how much correction and where to put it, ended up making my own lenses that insert into a standard hood. Eye surgery scares me, I know a couple horror stories at my club, know some successes too but its all glass now, no reason for me to consider, thank goodness (on a couple levels). |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 8:55:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My hats off to you, I know how hard it was to do getting my last one at 50, you did it at almost 60, wow. I spent some time learning how to get over vertical stringing, how much correction and where to put it, ended up making my own lenses that insert into a standard hood. Eye surgery scares me, I know a couple horror stories at my club, know some successes too but its all glass now, no reason for me to consider, thank goodness (on a couple levels). "we legged with iron sights, not scopes, ya pussies!" Yeah, right, in some ways, glass made it harder by making it easier. And congratulations to you as well. If it was easy, everybody would do it. As long as we've hijacked the thread, mine were so bad even glass on a match rifle didn't work anymore. The eyes were the final piece of the puzzle. Finding the right surgeon was a gift from God. My guy used Torit interocular lenses. Went from 20/480 to 20/15 in both eyes, like right now. Then it was almost like cheating. Just keep all that in mind if/when your cataracts get bad enough. ARE ALL YOU OLD GUYS PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS????? DON'T SUFFER IN SILENCE WHEN THE SIGHTS DISAPPEAR, GET SOME HELP! |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 11:52:11 AM EDT
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HEY! We didn't hijack the thread, its for old guy AR enthusiasts, shootin' AR service rifle doesn't get much more fanatic! :o)
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Posted: 5/19/2021 2:11:50 PM EDT
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My high-power days are over, I suffered a detached retina in my right eye, my dominant eye.
They patched it up to about 20/200vision. I can still hit a man size target at 200 yards but that’s about it, but I guess that’s good enough! No more thousand yard shots though. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 4:41:23 PM EDT
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74 here, m14 in basic training. Got my first AR in RVN, XM16 E1 in '66. Bought a SP1 in '73. Built a Xm retro when Nodak first came out with them, ser # 22.
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Posted: 5/19/2021 5:58:42 PM EDT
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As others have said, same birth year as the AR15, 1964
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Posted: 5/19/2021 6:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As others have said, same birth year as the AR15, 1964 Eh? The AR-15 dates back to 1957. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 7:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh? The AR-15 dates back to 1957. Then that puts me one year before that... |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 7:47:31 PM EDT
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Soon to be 78.m love the smell of gunpowder!
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Posted: 5/19/2021 8:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh? The AR-15 dates back to 1957. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As others have said, same birth year as the AR15, 1964 Eh? The AR-15 dates back to 1957. Wasn't '64 when Colt released the 601? Late '50s for Armalite? I'm green on retro. 
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Posted: 5/19/2021 8:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't '64 when Colt released the 601? Late '50s for Armalite? I'm green on retro. 1959 |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 8:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1959 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn't '64 when Colt released the 601? Late '50s for Armalite? I'm green on retro. 1959 '59 for which 
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Posted: 5/19/2021 9:01:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: '59 for which Apologies... Armalite AR-15s were 1957 and 1958. Colt 601s started in December of 1959 I believe. By 1964 we were already starting to see 602s. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 9:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apologies... Armalite AR-15s were 1957 and 1958. Colt 601s started in December of 1959 I believe. By 1964 we were already starting to see 602s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: '59 for which Apologies... Armalite AR-15s were 1957 and 1958. Colt 601s started in December of 1959 I believe. By 1964 we were already starting to see 602s. Thank you sir. |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 5:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My high-power days are over, I suffered a detached retina in my right eye, my dominant eye. They patched it up to about 20/200vision. I can still hit a man size target at 200 yards but that’s about it, but I guess that’s good enough! No more thousand yard shots though. Even with scope? My Father had the same happen to him but was able to switch to lefty. It wasn't easy, but he did it. |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 5:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GrimEReaper is older than I, but I may have about the oldest AR. AR10 made in 1957. https://i.ibb.co/h7s4JGr/2019-09-edit.jpg thats pretty sweet!! 
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Posted: 5/20/2021 2:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "we legged with iron sights, not scopes, ya pussies!" Yeah, right, in some ways, glass made it harder by making it easier. And congratulations to you as well. If it was easy, everybody would do it. As long as we've hijacked the thread, mine were so bad even glass on a match rifle didn't work anymore. The eyes were the final piece of the puzzle. Finding the right surgeon was a gift from God. My guy used Torit interocular lenses. Went from 20/480 to 20/15 in both eyes, like right now. Then it was almost like cheating. Just keep all that in mind if/when your cataracts get bad enough. ARE ALL YOU OLD GUYS PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS????? DON'T SUFFER IN SILENCE WHEN THE SIGHTS DISAPPEAR, GET SOME HELP! I had two detached retinas when I was 50. DNA sucks. My left eye was the worst. Full detachment with 6 tears. If I didn't have the surgery I'd go blind. Ten months later to the day I had surgery on my right eye for a partial detachment with one tear in my right eye. You're guaranteed cataracts if you've had a detached retina. Both my lenses were replaced. Seeing iron sights with my right eye is difficult. I see the target and my sight picture is fuzzy. Not the other way around. Red dots help, but look like starbursts. Some more than others. Shooting left handed, while not natural for me, helps with the iron sights. Clear sights, fuzzy target. My left eye sees close, my right eye far. I'm right eye dominant. |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 2:57:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with scope? My Father had the same happen to him but was able to switch to lefty. It wasn't easy, but he did it. Even with a scope, I was blind in my right eye when it happened. Laser Surgery patched it up. Lots of scar tissue though. My left eye was starting to detach but they caught it before it did. Surgery on that one too. I do sight my rifles in with my left eye, but it’s really awkward. Hard to believe I once shot an X ring sighter first shot at 1000 yards(with an M1 Garand) |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 3:01:52 PM EDT
[#24]
66 here, born two earlier than the AR10.
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Posted: 5/20/2021 10:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with a scope, I was blind in my right eye when it happened. Laser Surgery patched it up. Lots of scar tissue though. My left eye was starting to detach but they caught it before it did. Surgery on that one too. I do sight my rifles in with my left eye, but it’s really awkward. Hard to believe I once shot an X ring sighter first shot at 1000 yards(with an M1 Garand) That's a nightmare scenario for sure and I'm sorry to heard about it. It's a stark reminder how important our eyes are. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:00:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As others have said, same birth year as the AR15, 1964 The SP1 was introduced in 1964 |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The SP1 was introduced in 1964 Agree. But the Colt 601 was marked as AR15. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:42:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree. But the Colt 601 was marked as AR15. And began production in 1959. ArmaLites were also marked AR-15 and were produced 1957-1958 |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And began production in 1959. ArmaLites were also marked AR-15 and were produced 1957-1958 So: AR15 conception: 1957 (25 prototypes) AR15 gestation: 1957-1959 AR15 birth: 601 in 1959, sp1 in 1964 |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So: AR15 conception: 1957 (25 prototypes) AR15 gestation: 1957-1959 AR15 birth: 601 in 1959, sp1 in 1964 At minimum, 28 prototypes. Anywhere from 28-39 (with 40 receiver sets ordered, at least 1 not built) were potentially made. 27 is the highest observed serial number + the XAR-15 (think of that one as serial “0”) XAR-1501 was built in 1957. Serials 000001 - 000027 were built 1957-1958 based on what I can tell. There are issues with the claim of 40 receiver sets, however. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:07:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Not going to play your twisted data mining game, however I will say I remember going to the discotecs and seeing people in thier mid 20's and we use to say those were the old people.
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Posted: 5/22/2021 1:45:10 PM EDT
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I'm 63 and I own a 1979 SP1 carbine.
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Posted: 5/22/2021 2:04:08 PM EDT
[#33]
73 next month
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Posted: 5/23/2021 8:34:45 AM EDT
[#34]
Still rockin' it at a comparatively young 56. Was issued my first M-16 at the age of 17 when I joined the NG. Then went active Army Infantry and was upgraded to the A1...
Never saw an A2/A3 or M4 until I started building them as a hobby. |
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Posted: 5/23/2021 8:08:01 PM EDT
[#35]
68.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 8:32:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: I be 58. Anyone top that? Turned 74 last month. |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 4:58:53 AM EDT
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63, had two Colt 4 digit serial number guns all original. I was Retro when Retro wasn`t cool and picking parts and old mag pouches along the way . I remember when a buddy was with me in my 1972 Chevy truck coming back from camp day had a Colt in the rear gun rack ,PA State Police got behind us pulled us over took a look. I said don`t you guys have that stuff he said hell no nothing that modern . Long time ago .
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Posted: 5/25/2021 5:05:33 AM EDT
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A codger thread for my fellow codgers.
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Posted: 5/25/2021 9:00:42 PM EDT
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WELL I GUESS AT 75 / 76. MY FIRST REAL EXPERANCE WITH AN M16 WAS IN A JUNGLE AT THE OLD AGE OF 19.
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:15:52 AM EDT
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More like curmudgeons. Don't make me take a tennis ball off the bottom of my walker. Now get off my lawn!
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Posted: 6/11/2021 8:16:30 PM EDT
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apparently, I'm a spring chicken at just 56yrs old. After 2 open heart surgeries, I'm feeling more like 76...
First experience with the M16 platform was in 1982 with the VTARNG, an old slab side. A year later (and after HS graduation) I carried a M16A1 full time as a 11B. Love my iron sights, but these tired eye really need optics now. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 8:32:35 PM EDT
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56 here, got my first AR15 in 1984, 16" SP1 carbine.
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Posted: 6/11/2021 11:46:49 PM EDT
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I'm 55, and about 3/4 of the year my '66 SP-1 catches up to me in age.
First M-16A1 at Ft Leonard Wood in 1987, a Hydramatic. First AR I bought from a Marine based at Camp Pendleton. Bunches of them bought and sold since, now have both the '66 and a '78 SP-1 Carbine, and a Rock Island A2 plinker. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 3:13:37 AM EDT
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I'll be 68, in Nov. Shot my first AR-15, in 1969, and purchased my first, in 1972, a used SP1 rifle. Purchased my first SP1 carbine new, in 1982, and still own it. It's undergone many changes since then, starting with a full auto conversion on a Form 1, in 1983. Added a 603 upper with Bushy heavy 11.5" barrel after I sold the complete SP1 upper in 1990, I think. It's almost 40yrs old but still shoots as well as any AR I've ever owned. Will probably take it to my grave.
Have bought, sold, and built so many AR's over the years, I've lost track of how many. My favorites all have carry handles. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 10:07:10 PM EDT
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I turned 50 this year. I mostly lurk here, read and try to learn. I started collecting Colt AR's in 2017 but the Colt AR's in my collection are all post-2000 production and obviously don't fit in here at all.
I need to buy some older Colts but keep getting sucked into prototype purchases and good deals on new rifles/carbines. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:20:28 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I turned 50 this year. I mostly lurk here, read and try to learn. I started collecting Colt AR's in 2017 but the Colt AR's in my collection are all post-2000 production and obviously don't fit in here at all. I need to buy some older Colts but keep getting sucked into prototype purchases and good deals on new rifles/carbines. Nothing wrong with prototype purchase |
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Posted: 7/17/2021 12:00:32 AM EDT
[#47]
21. Did my first retro (xm16e1) about 5 years ago. Have a couple other clones in the works.
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Posted: 7/17/2021 4:36:13 AM EDT
[#48]
64 in 6 weeks
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Posted: 7/17/2021 7:12:20 AM EDT
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Was 75 in March. First M16 at Camp Pendleton in 1968. Interestingly, the "Marine Guidebook" at the time, given to all marine during Boot Camp, had detailed disassembly instructions for M16 the trigger mechanism, so I gave it a try. It was very easy and helped me to pass numerous rifle cleaning inspections. Taught my other squad members as well. I have always wondered why they put such detailed and "unauthorized at user level" disassembly instructions in the book prior to it being officially adopted and Type Classified. I mean initially in Boot Camp and earlier infantry training, we had M14's, but there were no details on how to detail its trigger mechanism, nor were we trained to do it, as I had to figure that out for myself after Boot Camp. And that ruined many a ball-point pen refill used to push out the pins.
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Posted: 7/17/2021 10:24:21 AM EDT
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I can remember disassembling the trigger group on my M16’s for cleaning and getting my A$$ chewed out if I got caught! But to me it was the only way to get it clean enough for inspections.
I can also remember a couple times putting the upper parts under very hot running water after a good day of firing full auto at the range. Really helped get the carbon out. A lot of guys would hate to shoot their rifles, (because they had to clean them afterwards), but me I loved it! I would always volunteer to shoot up any spare ammo we had at the end of a range day. It was always easier to turn in residue than live ammo. |
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