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It doesn't use a slip ring assembly, true. The barrel nut on the BRN-10 is a standard DPMS barrel nut, that is compatible with a slip ring assembly and drop-in hand guards. For a Sudanese hand guard to work, a new barrel nut would be required. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The Sudanese hand guards do not use a barrel nut. With the barrel nut removed, what else would preclude their use on a BRN-10? For a Sudanese hand guard to work, a new barrel nut would be required. Really , good job brownells, this is the coolest most exciting firearm to come out since steyr came back with the aug again in the states , at least to me it is. |
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Will you be offering the black and borwn BRN-10 furniture sets as a separate item available for purchase? How about the barrels? I like the brown furniture gun except for the heavy barrel....might pick up the black BRN-10 and swap out the furniture to get a brown gun with the lighter barrel (or if you offered that as a model I would be *really* happy! ) Sven Manticore arms |
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@Brownells Will you be offering the black and borwn BRN-10 furniture sets as a separate item available for purchase? How about the barrels? I like the brown furniture gun except for the heavy barrel....might pick up the black BRN-10 and swap out the furniture to get a brown gun with the lighter barrel (or if you offered that as a model I would be *really* happy! ) Sven Manticore arms View Quote At launch it will just be these two models. We hope to expand to more variants and offerings later in the year. |
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Yes, hand guards will be available separately. At launch it will just be these two models. We hope to expand to more variants and offerings later in the year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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@Brownells Will you be offering the black and borwn BRN-10 furniture sets as a separate item available for purchase? How about the barrels? I like the brown furniture gun except for the heavy barrel....might pick up the black BRN-10 and swap out the furniture to get a brown gun with the lighter barrel (or if you offered that as a model I would be *really* happy! ) Sven Manticore arms At launch it will just be these two models. We hope to expand to more variants and offerings later in the year. |
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Quoted: What kinds of variants? Any chance for a Portuguese model (to include the complete muzzle device, adjustable gas system, and forward assist charging handle)? Scope mount compatible versions (either Sudanese or Portuguese style)? View Quote |
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This is exponentially better than the Geneseo Armalite offering.
They won't be able to keep them in stock. |
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I want the BRN-10B with the brown furniture (or the BRN10A with the lightweight barrel). There must be some way to remedy this!
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I want the BRN-10B with the brown furniture (or the BRN10A with the lightweight barrel). There must be some way to remedy this! View Quote Sven Manticore Arms |
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To be honest, I don't think anyone wants the heavy fluted barrel. Surprised that is even an option. No one likes an HBAR on a KISS gun, it's not the 1990's anymore!
I also wish they were offered with a chromed line barrel / chamber vs nitrided. |
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Well, you can't say no one... I like the idea of the fluted barrel, partly because it's still only 9 pounds (I grew up on 'heavy' rifles, M1s, M-14s, Mausers, etc., to me they were just normal rifles) and partly because some of the very early originals had fluted barrels. The one thing that bugs me about the Faxon barrel is that the fluting looks like it could be more aggressive, based on the one or to pictures I found of originals. The rifle will be a joint-custody type deal with my dad (as most of ours are, makes for one giant collection ) and he likes the lighter barrel. I think we both liked the brown furniture, so the answer was obvious. Get a rifle in brown and build a separate upper with one of the skinny barrels they made available after the front sight change (he's not as big a stickler for correctness as I am, and even I like the idea of a bayonet lug). It's all a matter of patience, waiting for Brownells to make the parts available as production gets rolling. In all honesty though, orphan uppers tend to turn into full rifles eventually.
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To be honest, I don't think anyone wants the heavy fluted barrel. Surprised that is even an option. No one likes an HBAR on a KISS gun, it's not the 1990's anymore! I also wish they were offered with a chromed line barrel / chamber vs nitrided. View Quote |
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Is there a pic of the fluting?
Mine will be a wallhanger, so weight is not a concern as much as appearance. |
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I believe if you go to Brownell's website and search for "BRN-10 20" fluted barrel" they do have pictures of the earlier barrels with the standard AR-15 front sight base. You do have to be sure to click on the thumbnail of the fluted barrel to get the right set of pictures, but they are there. From what I can see, it looks a bit shallow, but until I see the finished product in person, I can't be 100% sure.
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Let the powers that be know that there are quite a few guys here (see several posts above that mention it) that would like a model with the lightweight barrel of the BRN-10B and the brown furniture of the BRN-10A. There doesn't seem to be much preference on muzzle device. call it the BRN-10B-Brown or the BRN-10C or whatever and please make it happen! :) Sven Manticore Arms |
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@Brownells Let the powers that be know that there are quite a few guys here (see several posts above that mention it) that would like a model with the lightweight barrel of the BRN-10B and the brown furniture of the BRN-10A. There doesn't seem to be much preference on muzzle device. call it the BRN-10B-Brown or the BRN-10C or whatever and please make it happen! :) Sven Manticore Arms View Quote |
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Thank you for the input on the desired models. We'll look into the ability to shift parts around on this first batch. If doable, these would not be available when the initial two ship, as the first run is in process at the moment.
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We want EXACT Retro....
Hey, could you swap this around and put this thing over there... And could you add a bottle opener like the Israelis did... |
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We want EXACT Retro.... Hey, could you swap this around and put this thing over there... And could you add a bottle opener like the Israelis did... View Quote ...and regardless of what you want, several of us want brown furniture and a lightweight barrel and will be perfectly happy to spend our hard earned money on that configuration. Sven Manticore Arms |
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No, you want exact retro. These are not exact, they are a very good "homage" to the original, but by no means an exact copy. ...and regardless of what you want, several of us want brown furniture and a lightweight barrel and will be perfectly happy to spend our hard earned money on that configuration. Sven Manticore Arms View Quote |
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No, you want exact retro. These are not exact, they are a very good "homage" to the original, but by no means an exact copy. ...and regardless of what you want, several of us want brown furniture and a lightweight barrel and will be perfectly happy to spend our hard earned money on that configuration. Sven Manticore Arms View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We want EXACT Retro.... Hey, could you swap this around and put this thing over there... And could you add a bottle opener like the Israelis did... ...and regardless of what you want, several of us want brown furniture and a lightweight barrel and will be perfectly happy to spend our hard earned money on that configuration. Sven Manticore Arms He's intending to buy brown furniture for it shortly after. He'd be tickled to not have to buy the brown extra, but he's OK with it. Amusingly, he'd have been fine with the standard AR-15 front sight base and is chomping at the bit over the delays to production from it. Me, I prefer the new base; I just don't have the money right now for a whole gun. Working on it though. The items I really want to see are the half-metal style handguards and waffle mags. |
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I ordered the black rifle. I'll probably wait for the revised pistol grip, then have all the furniture Duracoated green.
I can hear the gasps now. "But AR-10s weren't painted!" Well, most of them weren't, but I saw video of one that AI made as a presentation rifle for Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, and the furniture was painted green. If it's good enough for Prince Bernhard, I reckon it's good enough for me. (Incidentally, the presentation rifle had the open flash hider, and the carry handle was modified for an optic.) BTW, I also remember when Chuck Taylor was editor of SWAT Magazine and seemed like he took every opportunity to show off his original AR-10 which he had entirely spray-painted in a rudimentary camo pattern. So, from where I sit paint is not against the AR-10 religion. |
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Did the AR-10 ever have tri-angle handguards? What is the history on that. I think it looks good.
Nice gun Brownells is offering. For sure going to pick one up but will probably go the part by part route once the stuff is available that way. |
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I ordered the black rifle. I'll probably wait for the revised pistol grip, then have all the furniture Duracoated green. I can hear the gasps now. "But AR-10s weren't painted!" Well, most of them weren't, but I saw video of one that AI made as a presentation rifle for Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, and the furniture was painted green. If it's good enough for Prince Bernhard, I reckon it's good enough for me. (Incidentally, the presentation rifle had the open flash hider, and the carry handle was modified for an optic.) BTW, I also remember when Chuck Taylor was editor of SWAT Magazine and seemed like he took every opportunity to show off his original AR-10 which he had entirely spray-painted in a rudimentary camo pattern. So, from where I sit paint is not against the AR-10 religion. View Quote Ignore the haters and enjoy your rifle. |
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Did the AR-10 ever have tri-angle handguards? What is the history on that. I think it looks good. Nice gun Brownells is offering. For sure going to pick one up but will probably go the part by part route once the stuff is available that way. View Quote |
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We need ColdBlue to pitch in with his knowledge of the prototype DMR the USMC built of an AR10. That could be a good model to do next.
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Quoted: Pretty much all the different Dutch AR10 hand guard types are shown below, except for the belt fed version. http://oi67.tinypic.com/fz0pr4.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/1552sft.jpg View Quote |
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Bottom gun in top photo is a Portuguese AR10 with optional bipod. I would expect that Brownells would dupe that later.
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Some Sudans were green but most were painted matte brown.
The owner of the above green Sudan will swear that his paint is original and I do not doubt that then rifle was originally green. But the finish is far too nice for a rifle was was carrier for years in Africa. And the green is the wrong shade. |
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