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Posted: 10/1/2017 11:27:16 PM EDT
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Those bastards! They are semi local to me and they seem to have gotten a collection of some pretty rare stuff. Unfortunately it ends up on gunbroker instead of in the shop
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Posted: 10/1/2017 11:30:42 PM EDT
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Port is auction # 700080676
Guat is auction # 699999528 TONS OF PICS. No affiliation to the seller. |
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Posted: 10/2/2017 12:06:46 AM EDT
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Those bastards! They are semi local to me and they seem to have gotten a collection of some pretty rare stuff. Unfortunately it ends up on gunbroker instead of in the shop
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Posted: 10/2/2017 12:33:27 AM EDT
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Those bastards! They are semi local to me and they seem to have gotten a collection of some pretty rare stuff. Unfortunately it ends up on gunbroker instead of in the shop How do you know where I live? 
I wouldn't mind owning either of them but I'm sure they will go above my price range. What kind of price do these usually go for when they can be found? |
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Posted: 10/2/2017 10:40:29 AM EDT
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You thought they were semi local to me? How do you know where I live?
I wouldn't mind owning either of them but I'm sure they will go above my price range. What kind of price do these usually go for when they can be found? |
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Posted: 10/2/2017 11:02:22 AM EDT
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I know, I was just being a smart @ss!
It's a decent shop that I have picked up a few things from and I understand why they put rarer,more unusual and more expensive stuff on gunbroker. That rifle may sit in the shop for a long time at the price I'm sure it would command until the right guy found it. |
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Posted: 10/2/2017 11:58:20 AM EDT
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Don't see these come up for sale very often. Should be an interesting auction.
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Posted: 10/2/2017 6:26:23 PM EDT
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I don't understand why people feel the need to post about auctions before they complete.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 8:47:04 PM EDT
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I don't understand why people feel the need to post about auctions before they complete. 1) Auctions are fun to watch when there is more than one bidder. 2) Multiple bidders make auctions more fun to watch. 3) Auctions are great fun when you are the only bidder. The two AI AR10s are well listed. The outfit selling them has done their research and the listing are easily found. There are plenty of bidders and we will soon be shown the true market value. The Portuguese is now trending higher than the Guatemalan even thought the Guat is more rare. I think that is due to a higher demand for the more durable Portuguese. |
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Posted: 10/5/2017 6:02:07 AM EDT
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Both are in better then typical condition.
Current bids with a few days to go. Port $3800 Guat $3000 |
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Posted: 10/5/2017 8:01:26 AM EDT
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Simple: 1) Auctions are fun to watch when there is more than one bidder. 2) Multiple bidders make auctions more fun to watch. 3) Auctions are great fun when you are the only bidder. The two AI AR10s are well listed. The outfit selling them has done their research and the listing are easily found. There are plenty of bidders and we will soon be shown the true market value. The Portuguese is now trending higher than the Guatemalan even thought the Guat is more rare. I think that is due to a higher demand for the more durable Portuguese. |
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Posted: 10/5/2017 12:03:27 PM EDT
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What makes the Portuguese AR10 more durable than a Sudanese? But I have a a collection of broken Sudan bolt heads. (I did not personally break them) Dutch sport shooters tell me that a Sudan bolt is good for 3K-5K rounds and then is done. You must realize that the Sudan barrel extension has weaker lugs as well. Most Dutch AR10 owners do now have a parts supply that would get them through a broken barrel or bolt. Also, the handguard system on the Portos is not prone to deterioration while Sudan HGs will degrade due to occasional exposure to him temperature. Once in a while I see a Sudan with nice looking HGs that are eggshell thin in places. |
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Posted: 10/7/2017 2:18:11 PM EDT
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The Guatemalan AR10 went for $5425. The Portuguese AR10 is at $5550 with an hour to go.
The listings for those guns are the best and most accurate I have seen on GB. |
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Posted: 10/7/2017 2:25:18 PM EDT
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The Guatemalan AR10 went for $5425. The Portuguese AR10 is at $5550 with an hour to go. The listings for those guns are the best and most accurate I have seen on GB. Auction ends on the weekend... 70 pictures, and a great description... No buyer deals to be had there. |
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Posted: 10/7/2017 7:17:03 PM EDT
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The Portuguese brought $6025.
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Posted: 10/7/2017 7:39:54 PM EDT
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Wow, I was watching them, the AR70 and the Valmet and they all brought more than I was willing to pay
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Posted: 10/7/2017 8:53:57 PM EDT
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I missed the Valmet, how much did it sell for?
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Posted: 10/7/2017 11:18:43 PM EDT
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It was an M82 bullpup for $2232 which probably wasn't horrible with the box and all but I'm still trying to talk a friend out of one of his full auto M76s.
Here's the link if you want to see it. Same seller has a bunch of nice WW2 stuff up now |
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Posted: 10/9/2017 5:24:05 PM EDT
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Those auctions are also pretty useful if you happen to own an AI era AR-10.
I have a pair; a Porto and a Sudanese (CNC'd lowers a few years ago - another story). Aside from bragging rights, I now have a current insurance value to document a ballpark amount of coverage. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 9:23:25 AM EDT
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Dang, $5425 and $6025.... Baby needs a new excavator...
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Posted: 10/10/2017 10:38:16 AM EDT
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Keep in mind that they do represent the HIGH END of the market value. If two of these showed up on GunBroker every week, the prices that they would sell for would go down every week. For some odd reason I once sold an MG34 starter tab at auction for over $100. In reality, the market born value is $15-20, but two individuals just HAD to have that particular one. Immediately there was a rash of these starter tabs showing up at auction with starting prices of $50-80, and not one sold. A collectible does not have a "true" value until it actually sells, and the market value is realized.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 6:39:47 PM EDT
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It was an M82 bullpup for $2232 which probably wasn't horrible with the box and all but I'm still trying to talk a friend out of one of his full auto M76s. Here's the link if you want to see it. Same seller has a bunch of nice WW2 stuff up now |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 9:34:41 PM EDT
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Keep in mind that they do represent the HIGH END of the market value. If two of these showed up on GunBroker every week, the prices that they would sell for would go down every week. For some odd reason I once sold an MG34 starter tab at auction for over $100. In reality, the market born value is $15-20, but two individuals just HAD to have that particular one. Immediately there was a rash of these starter tabs showing up at auction with starting prices of $50-80, and not one sold. A collectible does not have a "true" value until it actually sells, and the market value is realized. Yes, if a bunch of these suddenly came on the market, the prices would drop, but these most recent prices aren't the "high end" of the market... This one on a Telko receiver sold on GB for $11,325 a few months ago. Granted, it looks to be in outstanding shape and came with a couple extra mags, but that, I'd say, was the high end of the market!  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/15/2017 3:34:39 AM EDT
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With the AR10s, its hard to get ANY idea of true market value as they are few and far between... PLUS, the differences in lowers as well.
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Posted: 10/15/2017 10:59:59 AM EDT
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There is quite a diverse range of condition with these guns. Some are worn to bits, others are in decent original condition or have been well restored. Everyone appears to have their favorite lower. My favorite is the Hahn and I would not give a plug nickel for a H&H. But others love the H&H as seen by the last GB auction. Bottom line is that there are and will continue to be buying opportunities. Only a few months ago I snagged a Porto from GB for less than $3K. Armslist will have better deals but there is much more risk.
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Posted: 10/26/2017 3:11:41 AM EDT
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Here are mine; I bought them as kits from Peter Wilkie in Canada back in about 2001 or 2002 for $600 apiece including 12 mags (6 gray for the Sudanese and 6 black for the Porto) and a spare barrel for the Porto. I was able to get dimensions and a machinist friend helped me make a couple of new receivers from billet.
Maybe one of these days I'll be able to track down a couple of decent bayonets and slings.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 12:44:37 AM EDT
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Here are mine; I bought them as kits from Peter Wilkie in Canada back in about 2001 or 2002 for $600 apiece including 12 mags (6 gray for the Sudanese and 6 black for the Porto) and a spare barrel for the Porto. I was able to get dimensions and a machinist friend helped me make a couple of new receivers from billet. Maybe one of these days I'll be able to track down a couple of decent bayonets and slings. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2667/010_Pair-344270.JPG |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 7:11:27 AM EDT
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Where are you seeing parts kits? A friend has a receiver and has been looking for a parts kit.
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Posted: 11/9/2017 8:28:38 AM EDT
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Where are you seeing parts kits? A friend has a receiver and has been looking for a parts kit. |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 10:45:38 AM EDT
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Yeah, I think that’s part of why he’s still looking is that he’s notoriously cheap!
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Posted: 11/9/2017 9:02:56 PM EDT
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Folks with mutiple Dutch AR10s generally have a complete or partial kit because it is a source of spare parts. The reality is that the best kits have been built into rifles by now. What is left are the dregs, generally speaking. Meaning that those remaining kits will have ugly worn or replacement furniture, a lousy barrel, corroded bolt, missing selector, and so on.
Photo of a Transitional parts set, obviously overseas since the lower receiver is intact. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 7:48:24 PM EDT
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Port is auction # 700080676 Guat is auction # 699999528 TONS OF PICS. No affiliation to the seller. Why can't any companies make them like this anymore? I despise .308 AR variants with rails, and that all weigh 10 + lbs. Give me a KISS GI type AR10 any day! |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 8:39:48 PM EDT
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I saw a picture of an M-16 next to an AR-10 and they looked like they were almost the exact same length. The AR-10 receiver couldn't have been more than a fraction of an inch longer despite being built as a 7.62mm receiver while the M-16's is for 5.56. From what I understand, the buffers and tubes are a lot beefier on the real AR-10s. It'd be nice to see someone revive and develop the AR-10, especially since there are so many different 7.62mm AR types out there, anyways.
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Posted: 11/13/2017 11:10:02 PM EDT
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