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Originally Posted By ArBandit:
601 port doorhttps://s20.postimg.org/50lisx2xp/received_567304950313196.jpg" target="_blank">https://s20.postimg.org/50lisx2xp/received_567304950313196.jpghttps://s20.postimg.org/62vpbgtgt/received_567304973646527.jpg" target="_blank">https://s20.postimg.org/62vpbgtgt/received_567304973646527.jpg View Quote |
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"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid"
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both" |
Originally Posted By Garandboy:
A well worn A1 upper missing dust cover A clean complete A1 upper A BLEM NoDak upper, unused. https://i.imgur.com/J4IFXJc.jpg A DK C7, complete. And two splintered A complete C7's https://i.imgur.com/KOzSpB8.jpg View Quote |
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"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid"
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both" |
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Has anyone seen a cast FSB MVP12 barrel sell lately and what it went for?
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"Rictus laughs at you. He laughs from his mountain."
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Looking for Colt AR-15 Serial # SP154280 My first AR
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Is a GM bolt catch worth 50$ ?
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Anyone know the going rate for a Stoner 63 belt box? Green one, I think a 200 round box?
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Looking for Colt AR-15 Serial # SP154280 My first AR
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Originally Posted By Tazaroo:
I've done a GM build. I personally think $50 is too high and think $35 to $40 tops is right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Mygrainman:
Don’t know if I’m going to sell this or build an M16A1 clone, but I might as well explore my options... I’m told the upper is GM, but the barrel is unknown. I have a teardrop FA that I can put on in place of the large diameter round of it helps value. Bbl. is 11.5” chrome bore1/12 twist with a pin and welded faux moderator no Idea of the maker, it has been sprayed at some point and any roll marks filled in. I would like the value of the bbl, and the upper, as they are not staying together. I like to shoot my guns, and a 1/12 might be historically correct, but it ain’t great for stability. It does do fine with 55gs though...Thanks for your help! https://postimg.cc/gallery/mcaw4k2u/ View Quote Taking into consideration that it may and appears to be a somewhat desirable H&R or GM, that it has a correct and original A1 ejection port door, has the rear sight assembly, but it has a very poor paint/coating that will need to be removed, and if you were to install (or include) the teardrop forward assist, I would value the complete A1 upper receiver in the $245-$325 price range. Complete Barrel Assembly: Taking into consideration the lack of knowledge about the barrel manufacture, the bad and poorly installed faux moderator, the screw on front sight base, again it has a paint/coating that needs to be removed, a flat slip ring (unfortunately again painted/coated), but it is potentially a good length and twist rate for a shorter barrel retro build, I would value the complete barrel in the $80-$110 price range. |
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I think Thegunenthusiast is spot on with value estimates from what I have seen on both the EE and Gun Broker lately.
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Originally Posted By JoeBud:
Spotted a FNMI Chrome Bore marked 20" barrel at a buddies house. What is the ballpark rate on these? View Quote I recall it being a 1/7 twist, and is on a Colt A2 upper. |
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Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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I found this Colt AR15 Model 614 locally and very interested in purchasing. The price is a bit above my budget of 23k for a full auto receiver so need some input. The last M16 I purchased was a disaster (worn out Olympic conversion) and had to go to M60Joe for repair and I like that this should be good from the start. The fellow is not budging on price but the rifle does look nice. I don't know what to consider for it being original and how that reflects in the value. I would normally not be in the market for one like this but as it is nearby and easy so I'm suddenly tempted.
Anything I need to look for when verifying originality? Is this a fair price for the rifle listed? Am I going to kill the value if I remove all the original parts and use it as an occasional shooter with a new upper, stock, FCG, and grip? http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9834-colt-m16-fully-transferable/ Thanks, Chris |
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Originally Posted By texascbr:
I found this Colt AR15 Model 614 locally and very interested in purchasing. The price is a bit above my budget of 23k for a full auto receiver so need some input. The last M16 I purchased was a disaster (worn out Olympic conversion) and had to go to M60Joe for repair and I like that this should be good from the start. The fellow is not budging on price but the rifle does look nice. I don't know what to consider for it being original and how that reflects in the value. I would normally not be in the market for one like this but as it is nearby and easy so I'm suddenly tempted. Anything I need to look for when verifying originality? Is this a fair price for the rifle listed? Am I going to kill the value if I remove all the original parts and use it as an occasional shooter with a new upper, stock, FCG, and grip? http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9834-colt-m16-fully-transferable/ Thanks, Chris View Quote |
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Looks like one of the non-Colt (GM / H&R) upper receivers. It will be interesting to know if there is forging flash on the front arc of the carry handle. The receiver looks rough finish under the paint, if it was bead / sand blasted it is really going to hurt the value. The barrel looks like pre-ban era, I've seen Oly barrels with FSBs installed like that.
Originally Posted By Mygrainman:
Don’t know if I’m going to sell this or build an M16A1 clone, but I might as well explore my options... I’m told the upper is GM, but the barrel is unknown. I have a teardrop FA that I can put on in place of the large diameter round of it helps value. Bbl. is 11.5” chrome bore1/12 twist with a pin and welded faux moderator no Idea of the maker, it has been sprayed at some point and any roll marks filled in. I would like the value of the bbl, and the upper, as they are not staying together. I like to shoot my guns, and a 1/12 might be historically correct, but it ain’t great for stability. It does do fine with 55gs though...Thanks for your help! https://postimg.cc/gallery/mcaw4k2u/ View Quote |
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I don't know much about that model or when that rifle would have been assembled, but it looks pretty nice. What is interesting is it is a full fence lower and the bolt catch boss is rounded like older receivers. I'm guessing this is a 1967 or 1968-ish manufacture? The upper is square forge where a rifle with a full fence lower should probably have come with a round forge upper receiver. I don't follow prices on these, but if that is a "normal" price this is probably as good as it gets. I think I know what you are saying about preserving the upper, I wouldn't even bother shooting it with that upper and just assemble a gray retro clone using NDS / Brownells parts. (or swap out the upper for something more modern) Since the lower is in such nice condition I wouldn't do anything to permanently alter it or paint it. Fanatics will say don't remove the grip because if it is original it will only have one set of star washer marks on it.
Originally Posted By texascbr:
I found this Colt AR15 Model 614 locally and very interested in purchasing. The price is a bit above my budget of 23k for a full auto receiver so need some input. The last M16 I purchased was a disaster (worn out Olympic conversion) and had to go to M60Joe for repair and I like that this should be good from the start. The fellow is not budging on price but the rifle does look nice. I don't know what to consider for it being original and how that reflects in the value. I would normally not be in the market for one like this but as it is nearby and easy so I'm suddenly tempted. Anything I need to look for when verifying originality? Is this a fair price for the rifle listed? Am I going to kill the value if I remove all the original parts and use it as an occasional shooter with a new upper, stock, FCG, and grip? http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9834-colt-m16-fully-transferable/ Thanks, Chris View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cz75b9mm:
hello everyone,i have a colt pm a1 upper and was wondering if they are in line value-wise of the regular colts?If not are the more or less sought after being from my looking around they seem more rare. https://www.flickr.com/photos/67336620@N05/41999531802/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/67336620@N05/41999532242/in/dateposted-public/ View Quote |
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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Originally Posted By endermend:
I would say they are less desirable, but not by much. Obviously, Colt marked stuff is what people want, but pretty much any A1 upper will hold value if it's anodizing is good, no huge marks, and if the anodizing is in XM grey. If you have that, you can pretty much price it at Colt level. (You're upper looks like it has all of it) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By endermend:
Originally Posted By cz75b9mm:
hello everyone,i have a colt pm a1 upper and was wondering if they are in line value-wise of the regular colts?If not are the more or less sought after being from my looking around they seem more rare. https://www.flickr.com/photos/67336620@N05/41999531802/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/67336620@N05/41999532242/in/dateposted-public/ Price estimate with rear sight: $170-$220 Note: Not having an A1 ejection port door and teardrop forward assist does not take away from the upper receiver itself but if it did have them it would certainly raise the value a bit. |
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Originally Posted By TheGunEnthusiast: It is a little tough to tell the exact coloring by the pictures since it appears they were taken with the flash on but most "PM" upper receivers were more black or dark charcoal gray as opposed to a Colt upper in XM gray. Not to say it couldn't have been redone at some point but the majority are closer to black. Generally they hold about a 75-80% value of a Colt "CH" upper receiver. They were slightly higher in value a few months back before the Brownells upper receivers were more readily available again but since the "PM" uppers were typically USGI replacements they don't hold there value quite as well as an original Colt. Price estimate with rear sight: $170-$220 View Quote |
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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Pictures in a few, but are these good deals? Looking at buying from a friend of a friend.
Used (PD Trade in) SP1 20inch SN: SP46XXX $1250 Used (PD Trade in) SP1 16inch SN: SP119XXX -Needs flashhider, A1 grip, bolt replaced to be correct $1400 |
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Originally Posted By Trunkmonkey4:
Pictures in a few, but are these good deals? Looking at buying from a friend of a friend. Used (PD Trade in) SP1 20inch SN: SP46XXX $1250 Used (PD Trade in) SP1 16inch SN: SP119XXX -Needs flashhider, A1 grip, bolt replaced to be correct $1400 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ArBandit:
601 port door https://s20.postimg.cc/62vpbgtgt/received_567304973646527.jpghttps://s20.postimg.cc/50lisx2xp/received_567304950313196.jpg View Quote i need to sell my old stuff and buy some new toys at that rate..... |
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i do know i got some kind of carry handle upper, but it must be a defect because there is no gas tube hole in front......
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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Originally Posted By endermend:
Do you have any pictures? It might be a 9mm upper. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By endermend:
Originally Posted By aephilli:
i do know i got some kind of carry handle upper, but it must be a defect because there is no gas tube hole in front...... what angles you want in the pics? (and where do i find the info on what to look for that people want? I've got some small parts he replaced with "improved & updated" stuff) |
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Originally Posted By aephilli: I'm pretty sure it is, the guy I got it from had put flat top uppers on all his older stuff, including the 9mm. what angles you want in the pics? (and where do i find the info on what to look for that people want? I've got some small parts he replaced with "improved & updated" stuff) View Quote Attached File |
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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see, they forgot to make the gas tube hole
https://imgur.com/T6xQeLg so, what is it and what is it worth? and how much is one just like it but with the gas tube hole and bolt cam pin cut? https://imgur.com/B69jxnZ ETA: dang things are also messed up at the pivot pin, they have way too much play at the front when installed |
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some of the prices i've seen here, i'm gonna hafta put my SGW pre ban frankengun up for sale, C MP CHROME BORE pencil barrel and all
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Originally Posted By aephilli:
some of the prices i've seen here, i'm gonna hafta put my SGW pre ban frankengun up for sale, C MP CHROME BORE pencil barrel and all View Quote Post pics of that SGW upper. |
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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definitely large front hole, on both of them. So 150ish for the 9mm? About same or less for the one with gas tube hole?
and what makes the ejection port doors worth 185? the 3 i have look the same (angled not round detent housing and low striking pad on outside) |
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https://imgur.com/a/zWXjLSM
SGW Olympic Arms assembled by local gunsmith pre-94 ban "man i miss my SP1, you got enuff stuff laying around to throw something similar together?" |
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see the door on this one
https://imgur.com/a/kq4Z0oZ "it's OK, it is a pistol, see, says so right there" |
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Originally Posted By aephilli:
....... and what makes the ejection port doors worth 185? the 3 i have look the same (angled not round detent housing and low striking pad on outside) View Quote |
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Very Cool Appraisal Thread.
So, I sam sitting on an old M601 kit for something like 20 years. Excellent (to new) condition on all accounts, save for the mottling you see on HGs, buttstock and grips of the day. The kits that came from the original Air Force issue rifles. All the parts there like when I got them, I think from a Shotgun News ad wayyyyyyyyback when. Also have a preban (if that has any meaning anymore) matching gray SP1 lower receiver, and I always intended to put it all together and make an awesome and authentic toy. Never happened. Well, whadya think value is here, these days since these haven't been around in quite awhile? Probably best as a package, i would guess |
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Hello. I don't pay attention to 601 prices, but those that do will need to see pictures in order to give you an accurate appraisal. (Your kit sounds cool, I'd love to see pics)
Originally Posted By RackGrade:
Very Cool Appraisal Thread. So, I sam sitting on an old M601 kit for something like 20 years. Excellent (to new) condition on all accounts, save for the mottling you see on HGs, buttstock and grips of the day. The kits that came from the original Air Force issue rifles. All the parts there like when I got them, I think from a Shotgun News ad wayyyyyyyyback when. Also have a preban (if that has any meaning anymore) matching gray SP1 lower receiver, and I always intended to put it all together and make an awesome and authentic toy. Never happened. Well, whadya think value is here, these days since these haven't been around in quite awhile? Probably best as a package, i would guess View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cz75b9mm:
websites are all over the place on these so decided to come here and get a better idea. if possible would like to know if this is a late a1 or a2 stock and guess on price please. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1731/28871264608_6930054cfc_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1748/27875612067_9b1c6283cc_b.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/888/28871266928_4d8ca2a653_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1748/28871267828_16790a734d_b.jpg View Quote IIRC, good condition stocks usually go for 75-100, but yours is a beat up mil surp stock. I mean it has some nice character, but again most people won't pay for character. I would try cleaning it up before trying to sell it. Don't remove the rack number, just wash it down, remove rust where possible... |
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"The are no women on the internet. The men are men, the women are men, the girls are FBI agents" (Ancient Kekistani Proverb)
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