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VERY EXCELLENT and this should be tacked for sure..Great job RL... I will only add this to the unknown types.I have seen and owned a couple that the heat shield do have tabs BUT they are squared tabs.
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[#2]
Thanks. I added that statement.
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[#3]
Thanks. I'm saving this one.
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I need to pull out my "Genuine Israeli Special Forces" handguards and my Lone Star Ordnance ones for comparison.
Great thread, btw! eta: didn't read to the very bottom where you'd said the RRA had the IDF marks. |
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[#5]
Excellent post.
I pulled 3 spare sets of guards long stashed away and they are all Colt |
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[#6]
subscribed until tacked; good job!!!
(psst; anyone know where I can get some "Colt" carbine HGs... Mine are–– err–– all cracked; yeah, that's it!!! "Cracked") |
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[#7]
Great info Rick, Thanks!
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"Bring It"
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[#8]
Nice write up. I knew there were differences but, I never knew exactly what to look for.
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"It's only paranoia if someone isn't really trying to track you down and kill you."
Recon Team Ohio One-Zero Floyd Ambrose, Vietnam. You never stop being a soldier. You just stop putting on the uniform. |
[#9]
Well done. This should be tacked, or added to the USGI Carbine parts guide.
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[#10]
I'll be referencing this in the morning.
Cool! I was pretty sure mine are Colt, now I'm positive! Please do tack this! |
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You better take care of me Lord, if you don't you're gonna have me on your hands. -Hunter S. Thompson-
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[#11]
Thank you, RLR350!! You know I had this very question so this is particularly useful to me!
Yes - this should be tacked for sure! |
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Juice by Sarah, juice by Sarah, juice by Sarah oh, Sarah's got juice!
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Do the dual heat shielded Colt carbine handguards have the same characteristics as the single shielded ones as described?
Yes, this a very good write up by the OP! Edit: I mean the Colt M4 handguards that are dual shielded and is oval in shape at the back by the Delta ring. |
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There ya go,,the square tabs I mentioned above.Did'nt know it was Lone Star that had them tho.Thanks cracked.
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Glad you guys liked the thread. After Dodger57 asked me a question via IM the other night I decided a thread might be useful and fun. So, Dodger this TMI Colt thread is somewhat your doing.
Token - I don't know about the M4's. I don't have any and I don't think I have ever handled them. Someone here may know. Of course, they aren't retro, but a few of us play on both sides of the retro/modern AR's. Crackedcornish - thanks for adding those. I've only heard of them, aren't they pretty hard to find? Seems I recall Tex might have a set, too. Interesting thing is if you just described them over the phone (LSO markings aside) they would have a lot of the features of Colt. Six hole, single heat shield Ribs roll over the end. Shiny, not matte. Horizontal and vertical ribs meet at 45 degrees. Internal ribbing. Tabbed heat shields (although a good example of what m1sniper pointed out with the square tabs.) However, looking at the pictures they are obviously different. GVS also pointed out at one time the RRA handgaurds have the flex and are not as stiff as Colts. (BTW: The unknown hand guards in the photos came off a Tac Sol M4 .22 upper) |
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I just IMed moderator coctailer and requested this be tacked as a sticky,if anyone else agrees,please write him and or moderator aimless and request it be added..I feel this is really great info right here!!! Again,GREAT job RL...
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Originally Posted By RLR350:
Glad you guys liked the thread. After Dodger57 asked me a question via IM the other night I decided a thread might be useful and fun. So, Dodger this TMI Colt thread is somewhat your doing. Token - I don't know about the M4's. I don't have any and I don't think I have ever handled them. Someone here may know. Of course, they aren't retro, but a few of us play on both sides of the retro/modern AR's. Crackedcornish - thanks for adding those. I've only heard of them, aren't they pretty hard to find? Seems I recall Tex might have a set, too. Interesting thing is if you just described them over the phone (LSO markings aside) they would have a lot of the features of Colt. Six hole, single heat shield Ribs roll over the end. Shiny, not matte. Horizontal and vertical ribs meet at 45 degrees. Internal ribbing. Tabbed heat shields (although a good example of what m1sniper pointed out with the square tabs.) However, looking at the pictures they are obviously different. GVS also pointed out at one time the RRA handgaurds have the flex and are not as stiff as Colts. (BTW: The unknown hand guards in the photos came off a Tac Sol M4 .22 upper) did you also notice the LSO's only have 1 long tab/slot arrangement on the edges where the colt and rra's have two shorter ones? |
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If your gonna tack it, you, we, me, someone has to include the CAR stock ID comparisoms as well. Would only be prudent.
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[#19]
I've got a set of the LSO handguards also. They have found a home on my XM177E22LR (XM177E2 in .22LR) build. I figured they will see a lot of use so why beat up a nice set of Colt handguards. The LSO handguards can be made quite a bit more comfortable by spending a little time with some fine sandpaper to soothe out the sharp edges of the molding flash. Then a little polishing compound to shine up the sanded areas.
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"It's only paranoia if someone isn't really trying to track you down and kill you."
Recon Team Ohio One-Zero Floyd Ambrose, Vietnam. You never stop being a soldier. You just stop putting on the uniform. |
[#20]
Originally Posted By m1sniper:
I just IMed moderator coctailer and requested this be tacked as a sticky,if anyone else agrees,please write him and or moderator aimless and request it be added..I feel this is really great info right here!!! Again,GREAT job RL... I'll add this to the Carbine Variation guide. I don't think we need a tacked thread for each part of the rifle. |
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Run with scissors!!!!
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Cool - thanks!
Anyway to have the images display with the text? Not a problem if not, I'll just bookmark this thread. |
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Let's see ... home defense check list ... incendiary ammo... check! |
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Thanks Coctailer and M1. I think that is a good solution.
Dodger - Those are in a Power Point presentation. I can move the wording onto each slide and e-mail you a copy if you want it. The pictures are a little clearer that way, too. IM or e-mail me so I have your E-mail and I'll send it within a few days. (I think Power Point is retro these days, but it's the only thing I know how to use. ) Thanks again Coctailer - I saw the post and it looks good there - appreciate it. Rick |
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[#23]
That's okay, cocktailer has fixed the images to show with the text. Thanks!
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Juice by Sarah, juice by Sarah, juice by Sarah oh, Sarah's got juice!
Let's see ... home defense check list ... incendiary ammo... check! |
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Originally Posted By coctailer:
Originally Posted By m1sniper:
I just IMed moderator coctailer and requested this be tacked as a sticky,if anyone else agrees,please write him and or moderator aimless and request it be added..I feel this is really great info right here!!! Again,GREAT job RL... I'll add this to the Carbine Variation guide. I don't think we need a tacked thread for each part of the rifle. THANK YOU SIR,,you are the man!!! |
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[#25]
Absolutely great guide. I'm pretty up to speed on most retro parts but carbine handguards kind of stumped me. I've posted pictures of a set of six hole handguards I picked up at a show for $15 before , and was told that they looked like Colt, but this absolutely confirms it. Thanks for your contribution to the forum.
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Originally Posted By m1sniper:
Originally Posted By coctailer:
Originally Posted By m1sniper:
I just IMed moderator coctailer and requested this be tacked as a sticky,if anyone else agrees,please write him and or moderator aimless and request it be added..I feel this is really great info right here!!! Again,GREAT job RL... I'll add this to the Carbine Variation guide. I don't think we need a tacked thread for each part of the rifle. THANK YOU SIR,,you are the man!!! No problemo. I also toggled the archive tab on this thread so it will never drop into the archives. I'll add a link in the Variation Guide to this thread so it will be easy to access for further info. There is a lot of good info in here. |
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Run with scissors!!!!
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[#28]
Originally Posted By madmanblake:
Well done. This should added to the USGI Carbine parts guide. This Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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[#29]
Tag
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This world would be a better place to live if it weren't for people!
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[#30]
TTT useful info!
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[#31]
Taggity Tag!
Guess who's in the market for a set now! |
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Tagged
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Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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[#35]
It's sad that we lost pictures in a lot of the great threads like this one. I wonder if anyone has them saved, or if the OP still has them?
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Originally Posted By grimhollow:
It's sad that we lost pictures in a lot of the great threads like this one. I wonder if anyone has them saved, or if the OP still has them? View Quote I can again view the images in the OP. |
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger-Mike:
What do you think about these hand guards? I bought them for my XM177E1 project and the seller said they'd be Colt, but I don't think so. Anyway I know that real Colt early 6 hole hand guards are hard to come by, especially when looking for almost mint condition. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/1124/20190523_120203_zps78hu5i9c.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/1124/20190523_120217_zpsvnmmlw7v.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/1124/20190523_120235_zps8mmhuorz.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/1124/20190523_120240_zpskffqmktb.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/1124/20190523_120246_zpseftlipc7.jpg View Quote |
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the A2 is not now, nor will it ever be, retro......but I still like 'em
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[#41]
Is there any way to make the first post photo bucket pics clear? All but one are out of focus. Thanks for taking time to post.
You saved me from paying $90.00 for a set of RRA listed as Colt. |
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Originally Posted By Burninammo:
Is there any way to make the first post photo bucket pics clear? All but one are out of focus. Thanks for taking time to post. You saved me from paying $90.00 for a set of RRA listed as Colt. View Quote Maybe in another year they will only be half blurry. |
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"If its worth shooting, shoot it twice."
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Originally Posted By JoeBud:
Here are a couple of the main features to look for. The main thing I look for is the thin “L” shape on the inside of a Colt (left) compared to the thicker “U” shape on non-Colts. https://i.imgur.com/AP5zazB.jpg The other is the angled ribs on the Colts (top pic), but then again, I will always check for the thin L on the inside. https://i.imgur.com/DinDDNu.jpg On a similar note, if you’re looking at a CAR stock and don’t know if it is N1 marked or not, look for the mold marks. They are Colt birth marks. https://i.imgur.com/4wreWji.jpg View Quote Originally Posted By JoeBud:
Now, here is a nice 6 hole copy that even has a similar sheen and the angled ribs as the Colts. https://i.imgur.com/w7aiDKR.jpg But turn it over and it is clearly not a Colt. That’s why you always check the inside. https://i.imgur.com/8J86J6Q.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JoeBud: Now, here is a nice 6 hole copy that even has a similar sheen and the angled ribs as the Colts. https://i.imgur.com/w7aiDKR.jpg But turn it over and it is clearly not a Colt. That’s why you always check the inside. https://i.imgur.com/8J86J6Q.jpg View Quote I just found a set of these at my lgs. They're also similar to the "unknowns" in the op. Not Colts, but still pretty nice copy. |
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[#48]
are the rock river one still available?
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[#49]
Wanna bump this up for some peeps that were asking some questions.
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Bump
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