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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2006 8:48:21 PM EDT
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I didn't notice that that AR10 wasn't the new armalite version. We need DETAILS! 
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Posted: 2/27/2006 9:15:11 AM EDT
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Yup......it's an original Portuguese gun on a Specialty Arms lower.......number 55 out of 70 made!
Specialty Arms milled each one out of bar stock.The owner of Specialty then went on to start up Telko.....who made cast AR-10 lowers (Primarily for Paragon, who sold AR-10's in the early 80's). Shoots wonderfully......with little recoil, and a lot of interesting looks at the range |
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Posted: 2/28/2006 1:23:40 AM EDT
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Early Colt M16A1 upper with SAK bbl on a pre ban Essential Arms lower with an early solid buttplate stock and a RRA 2 Stage. By far one of my favorite rifles if not my absolute favorite. This summer I'll be issued a real M16A1 at Fort Lewis as well.
 
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Posted: 2/28/2006 2:05:43 AM EDT
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better keep this thread on my list because i'm going to be practicing my photography here soon.
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Posted: 2/28/2006 9:39:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: captrichardson]
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I thought I would post this info in all of the more recent “Retro Discussions” that I could find in the hopes that I may help those who are looking for info, and it may help to cut down on duplicate posts.
GENERAL RETRO PICTURES RETRO PICTURE THREAD #2! Lets see some oldies! TECHNICAL AND HISTORICAL GUIDES ON RETRO MODELS COLT'S USGI M16 SERIES VARIATION GUIDE EDITION III COLT SMG, COMMANDO, AND CARBINE VARIATIONS GUIDE LOWER RECEIVER & MAG FLOORPLATE ROLLMARKS, LOGOS AND MARKINGS XM177 RETRO BUILDS WHO MAKES THE MOST AUTHENTIC XM-177E2 REPLICA PARTS ? WHO ALL IS ACTIVELY BUILDING AN XM177 CLONE? XM177E2 (?) IMAGE FROM SON TAY RAID FOR THE RETRO INTERESTED So..you are thinking of a retro build...PICS and information RETRO OPTICS Armson OEGs for Retro-rifles RETRO RIFLES/CARBINES OPTICS PIC THREAD This is by no means all of the topics that are out there, but I think that these topics are the most extensive and have most of the bases covered. If you do a search for “Retro” or “XM177” you will find that there are a few more out there. Hope this helps, “Capt Richardson” |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2006 2:50:38 PM EDT
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If anyone is interested in repro Colt Model 01 green painted stocks I reproduced a set several years ago for myself. I didn't think there was a great deal of intrest at that time but if enough people want them I can do them on a part time basis. The way I did it was to take one of my original sets and had an auto paint store digitally photograph the original then mix the paint to exactly match (this is how they match the paint for repairing old cars) the original stock. Then I simply spray painted the black A1 furniture at my family's body shop and they came out great! If there was enough intrest I could do more. I have also sold the paint to a few people and no complaints when the used it to spray parts to match the original stuff. Let me know if there is any intrest in such a thing.
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Posted: 3/14/2006 3:09:56 PM EDT
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Sure, would rather buy the paint, being a DIY kinda guy. |
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Posted: 3/14/2006 3:27:29 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 6:12:30 PM EDT
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Got a couple new retro builds
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2006 6:44:03 PM EDT
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Are those modified 80% castings? |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:19:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Nope........Early SGW/Palmetto Armory....... |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 9:57:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ekie]
[#12]
Very nice. What did you use for the XM177E2 barrel? Have not decided what to do for a barrel with my E2 project. |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 10:00:54 PM EDT
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I'd like to know as well...
A cut Bushy S/L is what I had in mind - but am I lame for possibly using a .750 barrel & FSB? 
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Posted: 3/17/2006 10:55:03 PM EDT
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picked up an older A1 upper and barrel set up, reciever was a Colt, the barrel is unmarked, 1/12 twist, the front sight base was held in place with screws then peened in place, it was hell to remove but got it off and replaced using taper pins without any damage surprisingly enough. If I had to guess, I'd say it is a cut down Colt barrel, the 607 uses a Colt 1/7 "C MP CB" 11.5 barrel.
Lame? no not really, here's one I tossed together with some spare parts, uses a bushmaster 11.5 heavy barrel, not really correct, but cool none the less, did'nt look right with a moderator and heavy barrel but looks better with the A1   |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 11:01:05 PM EDT
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lookin' good!
I might go down the bumpy road of the 10-10.5" barrel with XM moderator, so I'm hoping if I end up with a heavy barrel, it might not look too off... (Still holding out for a skinny barrel tho'...hint hint!) 
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Posted: 3/18/2006 3:06:33 AM EDT
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You HAD to post that, didn't you YardDogOne,
 , that is exactly how I gonna build mine but w/ and A2 lower and a 14.5 M4 barrel .. Disclaimer: I'm j/k about being mad 
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Posted: 3/18/2006 9:44:37 AM EDT
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Got results of the paint pics? I am interested. |
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Posted: 3/18/2006 9:58:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lt557]
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try here www.essentialarms.com Also talk to Vaughn there and tell him we want him to do his new forged lowers with the front hole reinforcement milled down and magazine release fences removed. He is the only manufacture that I know of that does finishes in Sandstrom 9. I know it would not be a true early receiver, bit it would be close enough. The more of us that call him and ask, the more he would be prone to offering that option. |
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Posted: 3/18/2006 6:15:37 PM EDT
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Here are some of mine.
CDDN M16A1 upper on a Eagel Arms lower  Colt SP1  My Dissy build, still need to tread and repark the barrel.  I don't post alot because of my terminal BRD. I tell the wife the only cure is to keep building. GVS |
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Posted: 3/18/2006 7:31:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ekie]
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Very nice, looks like factory original? Gotta love those old shiny handguards. Colt never painted the exterior of their upper and lowers, with Sandstrom 9A or anything else (other then touch up paint). From the get go a Solid Film Lubricant (SFL) is applied to the interior of the upper and the receiver extension tube, but not the Sandstrom brand. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2006 10:46:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buzgun]
[#21]
I love this thread !!! , i always liked the VietNam style M16's , here are mine , a XM177E1 , and a XM16 clone , the pile of parts is my third retro project , i will try to gather the remaining parts for a XM177E2 , at a gun show !!!
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2006 10:53:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mentalstampede]
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My brother's XM-177E2
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/mentalstampede/Guns/IMG_2558-e01.jpg My (soon to be) M16A1 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/mentalstampede/Guns/IMG_2630e-01.jpg @buzgun: Where did you get a hold of the Lower for the XM16? I need one of those! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2006 11:27:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: John44]
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Man you have no idea what you just did to me! Runs off and grabs AR and files.  BTW what's with the A1 upper in pic #1? If you milled the case deflector off then you stole yet another one of my ideas.     |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2006 11:45:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buzgun]
[#24]
You "inspired" me !!! , on the top photo of my parts pile (futuer XM177E2 clone) , the upper i got at a show for 25dollars , as it was covered in many coats of of horrible thick paint , so when i beadblasted the other lowers prior to the Norrells finish , i bead blasted the paint off that upper , This one is a "Diamond in the rough" as the barrel i got from SARCO for 50dollars , it is a Chrome lined Colt , that has a ring in it , right at the muzzle , so when i shorten it , it will be all good !! , im going to get to work on this one right away !! buzgn .. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2006 5:40:42 PM EDT
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Mentalstampede : i did those up myself , as i thought that "look" of the old Vietnam M16's was badazzz !! buzgun ... |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 11:59:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SelectFire]
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KS, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2006 12:47:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Why is this thread not tacked?
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2006 3:32:28 AM EDT
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http://www.blackmarsh.net/sites/civilianarmory/images/forums/colt_sp1.jpg
My Colt SP1 has only had two owners and I don't remember my dad shooting it much. I played with the idea of putting a three prong suppresor on it but have just never bothered. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2006 4:24:24 AM EDT
[#29]
with all the accessories out these days why go retro?
here is my retro AR-15 http://johno.myiglou.com/images/kyrifle1.jpg |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2006 4:27:41 AM EDT
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I see you dont have a trigger lock on that , and it is equipped with a high capacity flint , is it at least registered ? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2006 6:22:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: blackmarsh]
[#31]
I never really cared for any of the ARs with the forward assists on them (aesthetically). the more I play with accessories the less I like them. So for me I'm glad to see some retro threads going. Besides it's the love of the core gun that unites us. |
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Posted: 3/30/2006 8:07:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: captrichardson]
[#32]
Here are some for you out of USAF inventory:
This was an "Armalite AR15", Serial Number 0040XX Unfortunately it has been “updated”, the original Upper has been replaced with a new A2 Upper, and an A2 Pistol Grip has been installed.   This is an Early USAF M16, Serial Number 40573XX    This is an Early USAF M16, Serial Number 2771XX, that has been rebuilt as a GUU-5P  Sorry the pics are not the best. Ekie, or any of the other Colt M16 "Turds", feel free to share the "historical and technical details" on these. Thanks, "Capt Richardson" |
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Posted: 4/7/2006 11:12:07 AM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2006 6:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blanco_Diablo]
[#34]
This thread needs a serious BTT!!!! Crap..I'm starting to want an XM607. But should I do an SBR'd 607, XM177E2, or M4?
If I did the XM607 or 177E2, I'd need to find an A1 upper without a case deflector...
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2006 8:07:34 PM EDT
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2006 2:21:40 PM EDT
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Well, here is my contribution
  
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Posted: 4/13/2006 2:52:55 PM EDT
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Because the guys who own the joint own cool modern spave age stuff, and discreminate against us old folk. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2006 4:58:24 PM EDT
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Not every one who likes the old guns is old.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2006 2:56:33 PM EDT
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I still think we should get a reference section to put all of the picture threads in and all of Ekie's very informative guides. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2006 8:33:22 PM EDT
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2006 1:51:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ne1]
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Posted: 4/18/2006 5:32:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Nice mine was from CDNN too. Any defects / scratchs ? I was looking to get a second but some guy scared me with his story.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2006 7:33:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ranchhand]
[#43]
Kewl retros!
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Posted: 4/24/2006 4:43:09 PM EDT
[#44]
Please pardon the noob question here, but with a slab side where does the brass go? Straight back over your shoulder?
Also with no forward assist would there ever been a problem as long as its kept clean? You all have some nice stuff and makes me interested in a light-weight low-drag setup. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2006 5:06:11 PM EDT
[#45]
The brass usually comes out at about 4 o'clock. It's usually pretty consistant too. And I've also never had a problem where I've needed a forward assist so as long as you keep it clean, it should be fine. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2006 7:03:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Did the majority of the XM607s come with or without a forward assist
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2006 7:12:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Thanks very much for these photos CaptRichardson , as i have used these to copy from , in modifying A2 lowers to XM16 for my retros !!! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2006 7:18:51 PM EDT
[#48]
 Gotta love them triangular HGs.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2006 8:06:25 PM EDT
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Nobody liked my rifle in the other post
   
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2006 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Mmmm...yummmmy....what kinda lower is that? |
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