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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:21:00 PM EDT
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Noveske 10.5 w/ FSB and Blade
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:32:54 PM EDT
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Any issues with the gas system? Short stroking etc? I've heard 10.5's can be finicky.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:08:58 PM EDT
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All 10.5's. 2 on the left have flashcans on them. Got a can in jail for the middle one!
And there's no picture. Damn you Photobucket |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:38:26 PM EDT
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Any issues with the gas system? Short stroking etc? I've heard 10.5's can be finicky. I have a DD 10.3" with a .070 port/H buffer and that is about perfect in my opinion. The Noveske has something around .078 and it will run just about any ammo unsuppressed with an H3 buffer. It's not unpleasant to shoot at all, I just don't feel the larger port is all that necessary. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:11:41 PM EDT
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Nah, not at all. If anything it's a bit on the over gassed side for my taste. The whole "10.5s are finicky" thing is mostly an old wives' tale at this point. If anything, manufacturers have responded to that perception by over gassing their short barrels just to make sure no one can complain. I have a DD 10.3" with a .070 port/H buffer and that is about perfect in my opinion. The Noveske has something around .078 and it will run just about any ammo unsuppressed with an H3 buffer. It's not unpleasant to shoot at all, I just don't feel the larger port is all that necessary. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:18:09 PM EDT
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What host are you using for photos? Tried imgur but it's not allowing me to post pics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nah, not at all. If anything it's a bit on the over gassed side for my taste. The whole "10.5s are finicky" thing is mostly an old wives' tale at this point. If anything, manufacturers have responded to that perception by over gassing their short barrels just to make sure no one can complain. I have a DD 10.3" with a .070 port/H buffer and that is about perfect in my opinion. The Noveske has something around .078 and it will run just about any ammo unsuppressed with an H3 buffer. It's not unpleasant to shoot at all, I just don't feel the larger port is all that necessary. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:20:30 PM EDT
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Pretty sure arfcom has its own image hosting, doesn't it? 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:27:33 PM EDT
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What host are you using for photos? Tried imgur but it's not allowing me to post pics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
What host are you using for photos? Tried imgur but it's not allowing me to post pics. Quoted:
Pretty sure arfcom has its own image hosting, doesn't it? |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:35:39 PM EDT
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My 10.5 with original SIG brace:
My truck gun, also a 10.5, no brace: 
Both rock solid, never miss a beat. Both have H2 buffers, but both ran fine with standard carbine weight too. - OS |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:42:12 PM EDT
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My 10.5 with original SIG brace: http://www.macmcdougald.com/gunpix/ARpistol-final.jpg My truck gun, also a 10.5, no brace: http://www.macmcdougald.com/gunpix/ARpistol-2nd.jpg Both rock solid, never miss a beat. Both have H2 buffers, but both ran fine with standard carbine weight too. - OS |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 4:50:56 PM EDT
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I hope that top one is over the measurement limit to be able to use that vertical foregrip. 
No one has ever been convicted of a NFA violation for having a VFG on any firearm, btw. - OS |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:26:41 PM EDT
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I hope that top one is over the measurement limit to be able to use that vertical foregrip. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:27:48 PM EDT
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Noveske 10.5 w/ FSB and Blade http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/mod0.cactus-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/mod0.cactus-03.jpg |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:38:19 PM EDT
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So many rules. I’m new to AR style pistols. What’s the vertical grip and length requirement? A handgun/pistol > 26" in OAL must not have a VFG. A handgun/pistol 26" or more in OAL, not concealed on the person, may have a VFG, at which time it becomes a legal non-NFA firearm. Remove the VFG, it's a handgun/pistol again. Measured from tip of barrel (muzzle device does not count unless permanently affixed as per ATF methods) to extreme "rearward point of the firearm", which is generally accepted to be the end of the buffer tube on an AR type pistol, as nothing else has specifically ever been stated as counting on that end by ATF. Gray areas include a buffer tube on a firearm that does not need it for operation, folding adapters, and whatnot. MI and maybe a couple of other states have their own OAL rules, though. In the case of my heater in first pic, it uses a KAK "super tube", which brings it to 26.5" or a bit more, not counting muzzle device. - OS |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:46:28 PM EDT
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The hell is that crap strapped to your blade? Mostly it's there to balance out the extra weight of the heavier profile on the Noveske N4 barrel. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:02:32 PM EDT
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Any issues with the gas system? Short stroking etc? I've heard 10.5's can be finicky. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:07:04 PM EDT
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Mostly it's there to balance out the extra weight of the heavier profile on the Noveske N4 barrel. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:23:15 PM EDT
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While using the brace as intended right? Our ATF, which art in Washington Hallowed be thy name Thy letters come Thy will be done On earth, as it is in the FTB Give us this day, our daily opinion letter And forgive us our ignorance of brace usage As we forgive the brace usage of others And lead us not into shouldering But deliver us from "redesigning" For thine is the government And the Bureaucracy, and the enforcer of obscure laws For ever and ever Amen |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:27:43 AM EDT
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11.5 with SOB brace.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 2:26:59 AM EDT
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10.5 with SB PDW brace, KAC RAS and a Fostech Echo 2 trigger. Trigicon RMR 06 sitting on an ADM mount up top. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:29:09 PM EDT
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I don't even *think* about using braces other than as intended. If ever I am weak, and such sinful thoughts enter my mind, I immediately say 15 "Our ATFs" and feel bad for at least an hour. It goes: Our ATF, which art in Washington Hallowed be thy name Thy letters come Thy will be done On earth, as it is in the FTB Give us this day, our daily opinion letter And forgive us our ignorance of brace usage As we forgive the brace usage of others And lead us not into shouldering But deliver us from "redesigning" For thine is the government And the Bureaucracy, and the enforcer of obscure laws For ever and ever Amen |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:43:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2017 8:17:29 PM EDT
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There rejoined as gold member to fucking post pictures!
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:26:33 PM EDT
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http://oi66.tinypic.com/10rmp77.jpg 10.5 with SB PDW brace, KAC RAS and a Fostech Echo 2 trigger. Trigicon RMR 06 sitting on an ADM mount up top. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:53:48 PM EDT
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Looks good, but it looks like your rear buis is on backwards. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:16:48 PM EDT
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There rejoined as gold member to fucking post pictures! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/85621/IMG_1105_JPG-312635.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:42:51 PM EDT
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It is. I previously ran an Eotech and this gave me more room (when flipped up) to operate the front - and by front I mean rear - mounted controls without interference. I just got used to it and still do it, lol. |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 3:04:24 AM EDT
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PSA complete upper (including BCG and charging handle) with a 10.5" FN cold hammer forged chrome lined barrel. Lower is an 80% machined out. Carry handle is a left over from a Colt 6920 I had laying around.
Barrel roll marks. 
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Posted: 9/21/2017 11:29:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2017 1:15:53 PM EDT
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11.5 with a Shockwave brace. About as KISS as it gets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261156/PSX_20170921_082813-313020.JPG |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 1:38:33 PM EDT
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Perfect. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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11.5 with a Shockwave brace. About as KISS as it gets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261156/PSX_20170921_082813-313020.JPG |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 3:44:39 PM EDT
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Federally: A handgun/pistol > 26" in OAL must not have a VFG. A handgun/pistol 26" or more in OAL, not concealed on the person, may have a VFG, at which time it becomes a legal non-NFA firearm. Remove the VFG, it's a handgun/pistol again. Measured from tip of barrel (muzzle device does not count unless permanently affixed as per ATF methods) to extreme "rearward point of the firearm", which is generally accepted to be the end of the buffer tube on an AR type pistol, as nothing else has specifically ever been stated as counting on that end by ATF. Gray areas include a buffer tube on a firearm that does not need it for operation, folding adapters, and whatnot. MI and maybe a couple of other states have their own OAL rules, though. In the case of my heater in first pic, it uses a KAK "super tube", which brings it to 26.5" or a bit more, not counting muzzle device. - OS |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 10:07:21 PM EDT
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My humble submission. PSA/Anderson/g2s/parts bin 10.5 w/ shockwave. Been 100%. My beater/travel rig. As pictured she's run me about $850... WML/RDS/Geissele trigger, everything $850. awesome times to build ARs.
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Posted: 9/21/2017 10:21:17 PM EDT
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Thanks. I appreciate it. With a standard buffer tube, what is the minimum barrel length to use a vertical grip? Just a general number, of course I’ll measure it to be certain. - OS |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 4:53:26 AM EDT
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I'd like to see more or less what these barrel lengths look like put together before I buy a barrel. Looking into a new KISS build rifle. Thanks! My recent 11.5 build 
p/s: I can't upload the image
The actual weapon used has a significant impact on the range that the bullet is able to travel. https://www.dailyshooting.com/which-factor-has-a-significant-impact-on-a-firearms-range/ |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 1:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that upper from PSA?
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Posted: 10/5/2017 6:42:00 PM EDT
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11.5 with a Shockwave brace. About as KISS as it gets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261156/PSX_20170921_082813-313020.JPG |
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Posted: 10/6/2017 8:12:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2017 8:51:44 AM EDT
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That's too funny!!! Obviously the ATF has now contacted NASA and they are running satellite passes over your house now, but it was worth it!!!!
Dang it, I was responding to krdt's "ATF PRAYER" but didn't include the quote, and don't know how to now. |
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Posted: 10/6/2017 9:05:49 AM EDT
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11.5 with Blade. 10'' lite rail II
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Posted: 10/6/2017 9:26:46 AM EDT
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With "standard" being same length as a carbine tube, 12" for sure. 11.5" is iffy, some say it just reaches 26" on the nose, some say it's just a tad short. - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks. I appreciate it. With a standard buffer tube, what is the minimum barrel length to use a vertical grip? Just a general number, of course I’ll measure it to be certain. - OS |
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Posted: 10/6/2017 10:29:32 PM EDT
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My 10.5 with KAC VFG. |
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Posted: 10/15/2017 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Guntoter, nice !
I bought that upper Friday, the brace is ordered. picked up a spikes lower, lpk today and have left over carry handle. KISS. Great looking little rig man. |
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Posted: 10/21/2017 9:10:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2017 7:34:34 PM EDT
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Pretty recently completed. It's had about 350 rounds so far, without a single hiccup, other than round #4, which did not chamber properly.
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Posted: 10/21/2017 8:38:33 PM EDT
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Pretty recently completed. It's had about 350 rounds so far, without a single hiccup, other than round #4, which did not chamber properly. http://i.imgur.com/cOae7nz.jpg FWIW, I just built the lower out for my pistol build yesterday (Shockwave brace as well). I'm leaning towards a KISS upper as well and looking for ideas. |
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Posted: 10/21/2017 10:36:17 PM EDT
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12.7" with GHW tailhook mod 1
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Posted: 10/22/2017 5:00:20 AM EDT
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What optic and mount is that? FWIW, I just built the lower out for my pistol build yesterday (Shockwave brace as well). I'm leaning towards a KISS upper as well and looking for ideas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty recently completed. It's had about 350 rounds so far, without a single hiccup, other than round #4, which did not chamber properly. http://i.imgur.com/cOae7nz.jpg FWIW, I just built the lower out for my pistol build yesterday (Shockwave brace as well). I'm leaning towards a KISS upper as well and looking for ideas. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 3:51:29 PM EDT
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It's a Vortex Strikefire 2 with whatever mount came with it from PSA |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 8:13:23 PM EDT
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Colt 11.5 cutdown with Surefire 3 prong and KAK Blade I had this setup with a DDM4 9.5" and saw no perceivable gains to being free floated. Now that I've switched back to a RAS and FSB its become my favorite sub 150 yard gun and with more use will probably take over the home defense role. Now that its been downgraded I use it more, don't care about beating on it and have more assurance in its performance. |
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