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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:38:01 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say it's over kill. I have a fixed 5X on my 12.5" and really like it. I also have 45° iron sights on there too.
Weight could be a problem. I have a QD PEPR mount on one of mine and it's heavy. I also found myself never adjusting it so I went with a fixed one. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:46:48 PM EDT
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I like the Vortex Prism AR 1x.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:44:08 PM EDT
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I currently have an MRO on my 11.5, the other day I'm shooting out to 400 with no issues. Ton of fun doing it by the way. I may pop a scope on it to see what kind of accuracy I can squeeze from it. The thought crossed my mind about using it as a mini SPR or possibly building one from a Rainier Ultra Match
I don't see why a 1-4 or 1-6 wouldn't be a bad choice. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:58:39 PM EDT
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I love my 1-4× on rifles, but all my pistols have dots. Aimpoint PRO, Strikefire II, and a PA advanced micro dot.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:45:44 PM EDT
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I have a 7.5 pistol with folding LAW adapter for a compact firearm...a Vortex Spitfire for scope as the reticle is etched on the prism, and is visible even if the battery is dead...relatively inexpensive
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:09:53 PM EDT
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I have an Aimpoint Pro on my 10.5" and I am about to finish another and putting a Vortex SparcAR on it. I like red dots, but don't think you could go wrong with a scope. I wouldn't go crazy on one though, hah I'd try to keep it fairly reasonably priced.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:53:22 AM EDT
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I put red dots on my pistols, but with my astigmatism I see 3 dots in a cluster. I replaced a red dot with a Weaver Classic 1x3 from a carbine and liked it enough to change out a second red dot with the same scope.
The scope is only 8.5 oz and the glass is very clear. One draw back is it isn't illuminated. I was thinking of a 1-4X Vortex Crossfire II or Primary Arms scope, but they weigh a lot more. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 7:58:29 AM EDT
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The short LOP on a pistol paired up with a scope kinda sucks IMO. Dots are a better fit for the ergonomics of a pistol.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:55:26 PM EDT
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Red dot.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 8:49:50 PM EDT
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I just got a 10.5 inch pistol with sb pdw brace and am now looking at optics. I was originally set on an Aimpoint micro, but really like what I've been hearing about the Steiner p4xi 1x4 scope. My question is a 1x4 scope overkill on a 10.5 pistol? Does anyone run a variable powered optic on a gun this short benefits? Draw backs (weight) While this is the Pistol sub-forum, you might want to take a look at the "Official MINI REECE Photo" thread for an idea about how different optics look on short barreled ARs. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Official-MINI-RECCE-Photo-and-Discussion-Thread/118-659371/?page=1 |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 2:30:39 AM EDT
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I'd go RDS
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Posted: 9/25/2017 11:44:14 PM EDT
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I like a micro red dot on there.
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Posted: 9/26/2017 7:22:06 AM EDT
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Just my .02 but I tried a 1-6X scope on my 8" 300BLK mainly to test accuracy potential and it really affected how maneuverable it felt. Also in my opinion a variable power scope at 1X doesn't seem as fast as a red dot. That said I'm saving up for either a MRO or RMR, had a PRO but got rid of it like a dummy
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Posted: 9/27/2017 12:56:58 PM EDT
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I put red dots on my pistols, but with my astigmatism I see 3 dots in a cluster. I replaced a red dot with a Weaver Classic 1x3 from a carbine and liked it enough to change out a second red dot with the same scope. The scope is only 8.5 oz and the glass is very clear. One draw back is it isn't illuminated. I was thinking of a 1-4X Vortex Crossfire II or Primary Arms scope, but they weigh a lot more. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:38:26 PM EDT
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My astigmatism also makes some red dots look like a fuzzy star. It's less noticeable when I wear contacts, but I wear glasses probably 75% of the time. I just swapped my 1-4X SWFA onto my 11.5" pistol, but I haven't shot it yet. Depending on how my range trip goes, I'll post some feedback here. Red dot for me. It felt wonky in the eye relief department |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 2:10:16 PM EDT
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I just put that scope on a 10.5" .223 today to see how it was. Shockwave blade. Red dot for me. It felt wonky in the eye relief department |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 9:24:25 AM EDT
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Red dot.
Even though I plan to hunt with it (if PA ever allows it for deer), shots would be 150 yards or less. Most under 100. A 2MOA dot is fine with my eyes at that distance. The eye relief factor is huge for me on a pistol setup. Scopes on short LOP just don't do it for me. I could, I suppose, add a magnifier if the spirit moves me. |
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Posted: 9/29/2017 9:38:06 PM EDT
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I am a 1-x fan. Pistols with half decent ammo can still expand good soft point out to 200-300 yards, and make accurate hits much further. The 1-4/6 scopes just provide a much easier distance shot and the ability to ID targets. With a bit of practice I think you'll find the gap between RDS and LPV speed narrows significantly.
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Posted: 9/30/2017 8:44:11 AM EDT
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I am a 1-x fan. Pistols with half decent ammo can still expand good soft point out to 200-300 yards, and make accurate hits much further. The 1-4/6 scopes just provide a much easier distance shot and the ability to ID targets. With a bit of practice I think you'll find the gap between RDS and LPV speed narrows significantly. 100 would be pushing it. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 3:37:30 PM EDT
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2-300 yards is well outside the range of what I would use a pistol for. 100 would be pushing it. I don't place ridiculously low limits on my skills or that of my firearms. My AR Pistols can be accurate out to 300 + yards with the correct setup, & if I do my part. So a scope with a little magnification isn't a bad thing. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 8:52:46 PM EDT
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2-300 yards is well outside the range of what I would use a pistol for. 100 would be pushing it. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 9:03:01 AM EDT
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Speak for yourself. I don't place ridiculously low limits on my skills or that of my firearms. My AR Pistols can be accurate out to 300 + yards with the correct setup, & if I do my part. So a scope with a little magnification isn't a bad thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2-300 yards is well outside the range of what I would use a pistol for. 100 would be pushing it. I don't place ridiculously low limits on my skills or that of my firearms. My AR Pistols can be accurate out to 300 + yards with the correct setup, & if I do my part. So a scope with a little magnification isn't a bad thing. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 9:38:15 AM EDT
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I love my 1-4× on rifles, but all my pistols have dots. Aimpoint PRO, Strikefire II, and a PA advanced micro dot. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 4:39:55 PM EDT
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Speak for yourself. I don't place ridiculously low limits on my skills or that of my firearms. My AR Pistols can be accurate out to 300 + yards with the correct setup, & if I do my part. So a scope with a little magnification isn't a bad thing. I have rifles set up for longer range that are still OK up close with a low-power variable, and I have pistols that are set up for close range with red dots. They are still OK out past 200. For my AR pistol applications, I neither need nor want a compromise optic solution that is less than ideal for the weapon's intended use, but makes it better at things that are not it's intended use. A red dot is awesome up close. A low power variable is not. As for the "skills" comment, well, you did make me laugh. 
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Posted: 10/1/2017 8:43:21 PM EDT
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Parallax.
Eye placement - consistent eye placement, behind the optic is important for keeping the shots in the same spot. Parallax is more of an issue with a scope than a small red dot - like and RMR or DP Pro. I have a DP Pro on one of my AR15 pistols and a Lucid red dot on the other one. Don't care for the Lucids as I've found out the batteries just go dead, even when the unit is turned off, after 3 or 4 months in the storage/carry cases. Got them off both carbines already, just have that one pistol left. |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 1:36:58 PM EDT
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Just my .02 but I tried a 1-6X scope on my 8" 300BLK mainly to test accuracy potential and it really affected how maneuverable it felt. Also in my opinion a variable power scope at 1X doesn't seem as fast as a red dot. |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 4:20:45 PM EDT
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How about a compromise?
I'll just leave these here: 
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Posted: 10/12/2017 7:04:34 PM EDT
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A fixed 4X on a pistol doesn't make any sense to me. Now your trying to make it a rifle and lose its short range effectiveness.
Needs to have 1X capability for a pistol IMHO. |
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Posted: 10/15/2017 8:29:21 PM EDT
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Thinking of putting a Bushnell Incinerate red dot on my 7.5 inch barrel build
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Posted: 10/19/2017 3:18:43 PM EDT
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I just ordered a sig Romeo 5 XDR for my 10 inch 300 BO. Like the auto off feature and reticle like a eotech. Get it Friday in time for the range this weekend. Have had fastfire 3, and vortex red dots in the past. Will post back how it goes.
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