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Whelp, I was in the fence a week ago to either build a M5 in 6.5 creed ir buy a bergara b14 hmr and all these black friady deals lead me down the righteous path. Heres what I've ordered so far, what do you think, and I missing anything?
stripped m5 lower Aero lpk Larue MBT 2S Larue Apeg grip Aero carbine buffer tube kit BCM SOPMOD mod 0 (or larue RAT as i order both one will go on a ar15) Aero assembed upper Aero BCG Aero CH Aero Atlas S-One 15"(ordered ar15 verson on accident so I still need this luckly it was on backorder anyway) Faxon 18" heavy match flutted 6.5 creedmore barrel Griffen Armament mini brake 7.62 eventually ill get the optimus suppressor have yet to figure out glass |
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I'm doing a 16" m5 everything battle rifle type build and the only thing I haven't bought yet is the barrel, I'm looking at:
-Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 Tactical Government Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Modern Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-gov-mid-cmv-modern-barrel.html -Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 BA Hanson Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Premium Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-hanson-mid-ss-premium-barrel.html The Hanson seems advantageous due to its weight profile and slightly better accuracy, but I'm concerned about it being stainless steel when I'm planning on using this as a battle rifle rather than a bench rifle and my understanding is that stainless steel loses accuracy when it heats up from rapid fire. Any thoughts would be appreciated! |
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I'm doing a 16" m5 everything battle rifle type build and the only thing I haven't bought yet is the barrel, I'm looking at: -Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 Tactical Government Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Modern Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-gov-mid-cmv-modern-barrel.html -Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 BA Hanson Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Premium Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-hanson-mid-ss-premium-barrel.html The Hanson seems advantageous due to its weight profile and slightly better accuracy, but I'm concerned about it being stainless steel when I'm planning on using this as a battle rifle rather than a bench rifle and my understanding is that stainless steel loses accuracy when it heats up from rapid fire. Any thoughts would be appreciated! View Quote |
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I'm doing a 16" m5 everything battle rifle type build and the only thing I haven't bought yet is the barrel, I'm looking at: -Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 Tactical Government Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Modern Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-gov-mid-cmv-modern-barrel.html -Ballistic Advantage 16" .308 BA Hanson Midlength AR 308 Barrel, Premium Series https://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-308-hanson-mid-ss-premium-barrel.html The Hanson seems advantageous due to its weight profile and slightly better accuracy, but I'm concerned about it being stainless steel when I'm planning on using this as a battle rifle rather than a bench rifle and my understanding is that stainless steel loses accuracy when it heats up from rapid fire. Any thoughts would be appreciated! View Quote I have a Rainier match on my .308, 16" mid-length, and while it's not a lightweight profile, it's still pretty decent full up with SWFA 10X and a 20-round mag. Definitely not a lightweight, but also not something I would suffer too much having slung on my back for long periods of time. |
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Whelp, I was in the fence a week ago to either build a M5 in 6.5 creed ir buy a bergara b14 hmr and all these black friady deals lead me down the righteous path. Heres what I've ordered so far, what do you think, and I missing anything? stripped m5 lower Aero lpk Larue MBT 2S Larue Apeg grip Aero carbine buffer tube kit BCM SOPMOD mod 0 (or larue RAT as i order both one will go on a ar15) Aero assembed upper Aero BCG Aero CH Aero Atlas S-One 15"(ordered ar15 verson on accident so I still need this luckly it was on backorder anyway) Faxon 18" heavy match flutted 6.5 creedmore barrel Griffen Armament mini brake 7.62 eventually ill get the optimus suppressor have yet to figure out glass View Quote |
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I just hot a aero lower . I'm getting the rest of the parts I need tomorrow. If this goes well I mite just have to get rid of my Australian L1A1 franken fal .
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Has anyone had any luck with Aero's customer service?
I'm trying to order one of their 16" complete uppers but would rather have them ship it with a 12" handguard (or potentially even a 9") vs the 15" that comes with the upper. I sent them an email and the response was "we are not filling any custom orders at this time". It's not really all that "custom", as it's just a handful of torx screws holding the handguard on. I'm hopeful if I talk to the right person this can be handled pretty easily. |
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If its not a standard option its a custom order. And doing changes like that tends to mess with inventory numbers. Easier on them to avoid it all together. Why not get a no-handguard upper?
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That would be an option but I’m interested in buying a complete barreled upper, as I don’t want to mess with assembling it myself (that and it works out to be cheaper if I buy it complete).
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Just put this together. Complete 18” upper from Schuyler Arms and complete M5 lower. Burris XTR 2-10 in Badger one piece mount. I have a LaRue MBT on the way. I haven’t taken it out yet. But I have a feeling it’s going to be awesome.
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So thanks to some of you..
The first of many parts arrived.... I pulled the 12.5" barrel out of the box and my wife just looked at me, rolled her eyes, and walked away. This is going to be a fun build M5E1 FDE Freedom Edition FDE Enhanced upper with 12" Gen 2 rail 12.5" Ballistic Advantage CPQ Modern Series KX-3 Flash Can SBA3 FDE Stock Superlative Gas Block Holosun 510C-GR MOE Grip, Aero M5 LPK ACT FCG |
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So thanks to some of you.. The first of many parts arrived.... I pulled the 12.5" barrel out of the box and my wife just looked at me, rolled her eyes, and walked away. This is going to be a fun build M5E1 FDE Freedom Edition FDE Enhanced upper with 12" Gen 2 rail 12.5" Ballistic Advantage CPQ Modern Series KX-3 Flash Can SBA3 FDE Stock Superlative Gas Block Holosun 510C-GR MOE Grip, Aero M5 LPK ACT FCG View Quote |
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Quoted: Any pics of the upper assembled with the 12" rail. Mine is supposed to be in by Saturday but USPS is busy trying to give me a heart attack and wont update and im ready to rage if I took a day off work to get this stuff and assemble it and it doesn't come. View Quote |
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If you order from aero it took me 1 week to get my material pulled and 1 week to get it shipped so I would add another 3-5 days with black Friday rush. I ordered from a company called granite ridge outfitters who had good deals on aero m5 parts and they shipped the next business day but taking a week to get here with black Friday/cyber Monday shipping speeds from USPS.
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If you order from aero it took me 1 week to get my material pulled and 1 week to get it shipped so I would add another 3-5 days with black Friday rush. I ordered from a company called granite ridge outfitters who had good deals on aero m5 parts and they shipped the next business day but taking a week to get here with black Friday/cyber Monday shipping speeds from USPS. View Quote Also have an M4E1 300 BLK upper from Aero that hasn't shipped, so that's good to know when to expect that lol... This barrel came from Granite Ridge as well. They had the best deal I could find on the 12.5" that was still in stock. Shipped out Monday and took until Thursday to get it. EDIT:: Got my Aero order today unexpectedly and my armorally order finally shipped. Woot |
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What upper vice block is everyone using with the best luck for torquing the barrel? I should have all parts for my build ready to go minus a scope but I'd rather barrel the upper myself vs. letting the local hack gun shops do it.
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What upper vice block is everyone using with the best luck for torquing the barrel? I should have all parts for my build ready to go minus a scope but I'd rather barrel the upper myself vs. letting the local hack gun shops do it. View Quote |
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What upper vice block is everyone using with the best luck for torquing the barrel? I should have all parts for my build ready to go minus a scope but I'd rather barrel the upper myself vs. letting the local hack gun shops do it. View Quote there's a few arfcom folks that will chime in and adamantly swear up and down that using a reaction rod is absolutely the worst thing to use that and that you're guaranteed to shear the barrel nut indexing pin. Just thought I'd say that up front. But, it works absolutely great for my dozen or so 308 uppers that I've done. |
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good to know. I have the magpul reaction rod deal for ar15 building and I can't see why anyone would think that would put more stress on the alignment pin than a reciever clamp. If anything I would think it would be less stress on it. Thanks for the options.
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Done building my lower. I am trying to figure out how to duct tape my SMG to the rail.
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Well got it all put together, it drops the mag out every shot so I now have a KAK mag release on order. View Quote a 9mm AR mag catch would provide that, RRA and Spikes Tactical make that part for Colt-style 9mm AR's, usually available from the places that sell 9mm AR parts, about $10. The 9mm AR mag catch has more of an engagement tooth because in addition to the thickness of the lower's magwell side, it also has to reach through the 9mm mag well adapter to engage the slot in the mag to lock the mag in. or, open a trouble ticket with Aero and go through that rigamarole. |
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The M5 barrel nut requires a standard AR barrel wrench, correct? Torque spec on an M5 upper?
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seems there's been a few threads lately in this forum about Aero mag release issues. not sure if a mag release with a longer threaded stud (e.g. KAK) will solve your problem. I presume you already got the Aero-specific tall mag release button? I think you need a mag release with more mag notch engagement tooth height: the engagement tooth on the mag release needs to be a bit taller for better engagement with the notch in the mag. a 9mm AR mag catch would provide that, RRA and Spikes Tactical make that part for Colt-style 9mm AR's, usually available from the places that sell 9mm AR parts, about $10. The 9mm AR mag catch has more of an engagement tooth because in addition to the thickness of the lower's magwell side, it also has to reach through the 9mm mag well adapter to engage the slot in the mag to lock the mag in. or, open a trouble ticket with Aero and go through that rigamarole. View Quote |
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If anyone was curious what a Ballistic Advantage 12.5" 308 barrel and a Noveske KX-3 looked like on an M5E1 Enhanced upper with 12" Gen II handguard. It fits perfectly. I haven't fully torqued it yet so it's still 1/2 rotation from correct position.
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I'm working on building a 6.5 Creedmoor off the Aero M5 builders kit. Do y'all find the 6.5 needs an adjustable gas block? I know 308 tends to be fussy without one to really get the gas dialed in and I wasn't sure if 6.5 Creedmoor fell into that same category. I just bought a Ballistic Advantage 22in premium barrel and I'm looking into gas blocks and tubes.
obviously having one is better than not but I wasn't sure if it was quite as mandatory as it is with 308 |
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@JoeMal
neither really *NEEDS* it, but as you said it can make it easier to live with if you can fine tune. Creed tends to favor the +2" gas system, or rather it's far less brutal on brass with it, regardless of adjustable gas. If you're going to shoot suppressed, that adds a WHOOOOLE other side to things and then yeah, you'll want the adjustable gas block so you can dial it back when the can is on. |
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The barrel is rifle gas with a .936" journal.
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The barrel is rifle gas with a .936" journal. I need to research what you're referring to 2" gas View Quote It's not a huge deal, I was just stating that if you're not suppressing, a standard gas block won't kill anything, that if there's any gas-related issues on a creed, system length will have a lot more to do with it than adjustability. |
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I do reload so I'll wait and see what happens. I typically buy factory ammo to break in the barrel and get a stash of brass accumulated.
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Well optics are ordered for both uppers 12.5" 308 is getting the new strike eagle 1-8 and the 18" 6.5 CM is getting the diamond back tactical 5-25 ffp. I didn't want to send a ton on glass since I only get out to real distance 1-2 times a year and only plan to have 100 rounds of 6.5cm in the safe at most.
Both optics combined only cost 424 so perks of having access to the online edu system at the last gun store I worked at still |
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I have a question about M5E1 uppers.
Does the rail slide straight on and then you put the screws in, or does it spin on and then secure with the screws? The slots/teeth on the m5e1 nut make me think it clocks on then screws. ... |
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I have a question about M5E1 uppers. Does the rail slide straight on and then you put the screws in, or does it spin on and then secure with the screws? The slots/teeth on the m5e1 nut make me think it clocks on then screws. ... View Quote |
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The barrel nut is torqued and indexed (with shims, if necessary), and then the handguard is screwed on to the nut. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have a question about M5E1 uppers. Does the rail slide straight on and then you put the screws in, or does it spin on and then secure with the screws? The slots/teeth on the m5e1 nut make me think it clocks on then screws. ... |
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I am looking at the 15" m5e1 builder sets, and want to notch it at 12" for a switchblock. But if the handguard has to spin during install, it won't work. But if it simply slides straight onto the receiver i am good to go.
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I am looking at the 15" m5e1 builder sets, and want to notch it at 12" for a switchblock. But if the handguard has to spin during install, it won't work. But if it simply slides straight onto the receiver i am good to go. View Quote |
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Just got my MBT today so the 18" 6.5 creedmoor is all slapped together minus optics. It's sitting at 7.9lbs and I haven't decided if i want the Vortex Viper genII pst or to try out the new Primary Arms 6.5 creedmoor 3x18 ffp scope at half the cost. Ill basically be using this thing for deer, and hopefully some coyote hunting along with messing around at the range. =http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/halfchrome/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20181211_195222_zpstdbiqzsm.jpg.html]http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h399/halfchrome/Mobile%20Uploads/20181211_195222_zpstdbiqzsm.jpg[/URL] View Quote |
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I believe you are thinking of a standard M5 upper. The M5E1 barrel nut requires no shims, does not have to be timed and is has nothing to do with the handguard attachment. After torquing the barrel nut, you slide the handguard straight onto the the receiver (the handguard interface is forged onto the upper receiver), then add some thread locker and attach the handguard attachment screws. It's simple, always aligned and solid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have a question about M5E1 uppers. Does the rail slide straight on and then you put the screws in, or does it spin on and then secure with the screws? The slots/teeth on the m5e1 nut make me think it clocks on then screws. ... |
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Quoted: I'm in the same boat sort of, I ordered a ffp biamond back 25x but they said its 3-4 mounts out, I like that the reticle of the PA is set for 6.5 already. I probably wont get to take it out to 500+ more then twice a year so thats why i went diamond back.... that 25x would go good on my 10/22 though. View Quote just be aware that the PA will be significantly worse at low-light hours, so if you're hunting with them, I'd just stick with the Vortex. If its intended use is daylight range trips, the PA will work fine. |
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