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Posted: 9/5/2018 9:43:20 AM EDT
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 Not sure we're on the same page? I'm saying finish your own 80% lower and forget dealing with your local FFL's and the entire game of registration that isn't registration but it is.I've done 80s, and i have a couple other 80s to do. I've also done a fair share of cerakoting (blasted and freshly parked steel, blasted bare aluminum for 80% lowers, and anodized lowers/uppers/handguards). Yes, I did it 100% to the letter on the directions, with the one exception of taking 2 full days to degrease heating, acetone, brake cleaner, and repeating to the point of "holy shit just get to it already". I gotta say....if you don't need the color pallette, I honestly am NOT a fan of cerakote. Every gun i've done (and other friends who had professional finishing done) have all manner of dings, mars in the finish, right down to shiny aluminum showing through. Maybe I just bang my guns around and use them more than the average bear, IDK. But I've done tons of 80s, and it just isn't worth the hassle. I can build the upper and put it on my existing 308 lower to shoot for the time being, and once I pull handles and eject (retire from .mil) and head to Texas, it won't be an issue anymore. 
Like I said, not in a rush....plenty of other stuff to occupy my time till then. 
ETA: I'm not aware of any 80% lowers that fit aesthetically with the M5 upper, but if you do and it's already anodized I'd be willing to give it a look, as I'm planning on refinishing a couple other guns with Norrell's molyresin (which has held up unspeakably better than cerakote on guns that get FAR more use/abuse) so I'd be willing to give that a go on an AR. |
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Posted: 9/5/2018 1:43:46 PM EDT
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Posting a follow-up to my own question, the M5 will work with Larue mags. This will allow you to seat out to 2.874 (I got this number by hitting my new mag with a caliper).
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Posted: 9/6/2018 4:52:01 PM EDT
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just need to swap out the mbus for a set of pro's
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Posted: 9/6/2018 10:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryExactly what I'm doing. Excellent taste you have Sir!
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Posted: 9/7/2018 6:54:25 AM EDT
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Exactly what I'm doing. Excellent taste you have Sir! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/7/2018 9:09:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks great! What barrel and handguard did you use?
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Posted: 9/7/2018 10:07:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks great! What barrel and handguard did you use? |
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Posted: 9/7/2018 12:21:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks great! What barrel and handguard did you use? |
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Posted: 9/9/2018 8:32:29 PM EDT
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Ordered the rest of my parts
Lower Lower Aero stripped lower $150 LPK M5 LPK -FCG/-Grip $46 Trigger Geiselle SSA $- (had on hand) Grip Hogue overmold $20 Buffer spring JPSCS2-10H2 $157 Extension Carbine buffer extension kit $30 Stock VLTOR EMOD $- (had on hand) Upper Upper Aero M5E1-Enhanced $100 BCG Brownells Nickel Boron BCG $145 Barrel Faxon 20" match fluted barrel $302 Handguard 15" Aero Enhanced M-Lok $200 Muzzle 5/8x24 KeyMo muzzle brake $- Gas system Melonite gas tube $15 Charging handle TDI AR10 ambi charging $30 Gas Block SLR .750 adj gas block $110 Can Suppressor Dead Air Sandman-S $830 Optics Redfield 4-12x $- (had on hand) Prices do include coupons. I think I did pretty well. Dunno. We'll see how she shoots when everything arrives. Glass and the stock will probably be getting an upgrade fairly quick. |
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Posted: 9/15/2018 9:24:50 PM EDT
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M5 in FDE. Aero NiB BCG, Slash buffer spring, KAK LR-308 5.3oz buffer, Faxon 20" barrel, Armalite rifle gas tube (15.5"), SLR-7 adj GB, Badger Ordnance ambi CH, SSA-E, PA M4-72 brake, Vortex CFII 6-24X on AD Recon-S mount.
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Posted: 9/16/2018 11:41:38 PM EDT
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M5 in FDE. Aero NiB BCG, Slash buffer spring, KAK LR-308 5.3oz buffer, Faxon 20" barrel, Armalite rifle gas tube (15.5"), SLR-7 adj GB, Badger Ordnance ambi CH, SSA-E, PA M4-72 brake, Vortex CFII 6-24X on AD Recon-S mount. |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:22:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Accuracy of the Faxon barrel? |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 9:39:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Accuracy of the Faxon barrel? |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 2:15:40 PM EDT
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Faxon in general make really nice kit. |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 2:29:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2018 2:45:16 PM EDT
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I think, JIMHO, they had a bad batch of the now-discontinued 308 "heavy fluted" barrels, 18" and 20". It appears that barrel has been superceded by the 308 heavy fluted "match" barrel, it also costs a little bit more, has NiB barrel extension. JHR1986 asks a good question because there hasn't been a lot said about the newer version. I have quite a few other Faxon barrels that shoot very well, no complaints.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 2:54:10 AM EDT
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I like the ergonomics of the Badger Ordnance ambi charging handle, but it's not a direct fit, some discrete mods were needed. here's what my modified Badger Ordnance CH looks like, modified to fit the Aero M5. After the mods, I had it cerakoted Magpul FDE, to match. basically, I had to widen the "gap" so that it cleared the top edges of the lower receiver buffer tube upright.
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Posted: 9/21/2018 4:33:24 PM EDT
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She's ready to shoot.
Lower:Aero M5 stripped lower Aero M5 LPK -grip/FCG Geiselle SSA trigger JP Enterprise JPSCS-10H2 buffer/spring Brownells carbine extension tube VLTOR EMOD stock Magpul PMAG10 Upper: Aero Enhanced Upper/handguard (MLOK/15") Brownells nickel boron BCG Faxon 20" Match fluted barrel 308W Brownells gas tube TDI AR10 ambi charging handle SLR adjustable gas block Atlas bipod Magpul MLOK bipod swivel Nikon 20MOA mount Dead air Keymo muzzle brake Vortex Viper PST2 5-25x50 Dead Air Sandman-S suppressor |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:13:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks good, I’d be very interested to see some groups out of that Faxon match barrel.
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Posted: 9/23/2018 9:26:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2018 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Awesome 2 tone build. Specs? On the grip and stock did you have to buy 2 of each to get the different colors?
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Posted: 9/23/2018 4:28:29 PM EDT
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Awesome 2 tone build. Specs? On the grip and stock did you have to buy 2 of each to get the different colors? I did buy 2 of each, my 6.5 CM is the inverse of this one as far as 2 tone goes
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Posted: 9/23/2018 5:43:25 PM EDT
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Thank you, 18" .308. BA Hanson barrel. Great shooter. I did buy 2 of each, my 6.5 CM is the inverse of this one as far as 2 tone goes
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Posted: 9/23/2018 6:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you BTOMF? Think I saw some of your vids this weekend while bored at drill. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 6:34:15 PM EDT
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 Attached FileAero M5 receivers Faxon 16" Gunner SMOS 13" GFY handguard SLR Sentry .750 adj block. Pinned. Spikes melonite gas tube Larue MBT Raptor CH BAD-ASS 90* Toolcraft nitride bcg with MPI bolt Guntec 3.8oz buffer/Guntec spring LMT receiver ext SMOS QR endplate Forward Controls castle nut Forward Controls competition mag release button B5 enhanced sopmod MOE grip FLIR PTS233 It is shot suppressed 99% of the time and I'm 4 clicks out on the SLR. Functions flawlessly. |
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Posted: 9/23/2018 6:54:34 PM EDT
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Haha hell yes man, that would be me.
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Posted: 9/24/2018 7:17:24 AM EDT
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Well you helped pass the time magnificently so thank ya Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haha hell yes man, that would be me. |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 1:16:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2018 8:26:29 AM EDT
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Welp, my profile is all jacked on the computers at work, I'm likely doing a half day today, and completely mission-ineffective until comm figures their shit out, so at the risk of starting a civil war....
Ballistic Advantage 22" non-fluted vs Criterion 22" hybrid via brownells. I have a pretty good idea which I'm going with, but share your thoughts and try to convince me otherwise. Only problem is, I'm not saying which I favor or why.
Honestly just looking for thoughts one way or the other; both are priced closely enough it's really a wash in that arena. I'm also sorta considering the 24" criterion at fulton, but keeping it to at least equal lengths and price (plus or minus 5 bucks) for the time being. If you want to compare the 24" BA vs the 24" fulton/criterion, with the 70-ish dollar price difference not a factor (and no fluting for either), I'll entertain that as well. 
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Posted: 9/25/2018 11:05:19 AM EDT
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I was going to go BA when I built mine last year, but I ended up splurging on a Proof CF job. I've seen a few too many reviews where the BA barrels didn't meet the sub MOA claim. I think I'd try my luck with Criterion if I were in your shoes.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 1:53:47 PM EDT
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For the same money I would definitely choose the criterion over the ballistic advantage.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 2:48:31 PM EDT
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You guys are thinking along the same lines I am it appears.
I am curious though, I've seen a few references to dwell time on the creed *POSSIBLY* being an issue (on some folks' builds, not so much on others), so is there a massive advantage to 24" over 22"? Or conversely, are there more issues with dwell time experienced with the 24" over the 22"? |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 11:07:35 PM EDT
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What buffer/spring setup is working for everyone? I have an SLR adjustable, and with it all the way open, I cannot get it to load the next round. It will eject the spent case. I am running the buffer/spring combo that came with the complete M5 lower. I will run suppressed once my can is approved.
ETA: the CH is pretty hard to rack. Much harder than any of my AR-15’s |
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Posted: 10/1/2018 11:44:05 PM EDT
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I was going to go BA when I built mine last year, but I ended up splurging on a Proof CF job. I've seen a few too many reviews where the BA barrels didn't meet the sub MOA claim. I think I'd try my luck with Criterion if I were in your shoes. |
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Posted: 10/2/2018 12:05:45 AM EDT
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What buffer/spring setup is working for everyone? I have an SLR adjustable, and with it all the way open, I cannot get it to load the next round. It will eject the spent case. I am running the buffer/spring combo that came with the complete M5 lower. I will run suppressed once my can is approved. ETA: the CH is pretty hard to rack. Much harder than any of my AR-15’s You sure the gas block is set in the sweet spot? I have an SLR block as well and I can either fling the brass into next week or turn it into a single shot. Does it seem to change much at all after adjusting the gas block? Are you saying the charging handle is hard to pull back after a shot? Or when you go to chamber the first round? |
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Posted: 10/2/2018 8:54:28 AM EDT
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I have a JPSCS2-10H2 GEN 2 Silent Captured Spring in mine. Haven't run it suppressed yet. You sure the gas block is set in the sweet spot? I have an SLR block as well and I can either fling the brass into next week or turn it into a single shot. Does it seem to change much at all after adjusting the gas block? Are you saying the charging handle is hard to pull back after a shot? Or when you go to chamber the first round? |
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Posted: 10/2/2018 9:06:57 AM EDT
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I have the JP SCS spring. Mine is running an SLR adjustable gas block, and with AE ammo it runs nicely.
If the charging handle is that hard to pull you might be dragging somewhere. Look inside the receiver for drag marks, see if there is something binding, etc. Also make sure the tube and gas block are located correctly. |
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Posted: 10/2/2018 9:30:48 AM EDT
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I have the JP SCS spring. Mine is running an SLR adjustable gas block, and with AE ammo it runs nicely. If the charging handle is that hard to pull you might be dragging somewhere. Look inside the receiver for drag marks, see if there is something binding, etc. Also make sure the tube and gas block are located correctly. |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 7:06:35 AM EDT
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Finally finished my M5 lower out:
Going out for a test fire in a few weeks then off to Cerakote in H265 FDE. Lots of KAC DNA in this gun, CMMG upper and barrel. The only Aero parts in it are the lower and the pins. |
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Posted: 10/5/2018 10:57:15 AM EDT
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anyone running a mega or a zev wedge lock handguard on their M5? thinking of switching over rails again, cutting the barrel to 14.0" & pinning a dead air hider on mine. want to see if it works/what it looks like before I put up my centurion
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Posted: 10/14/2018 10:38:39 PM EDT
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Finally finished my M5 lower out: https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43120247_10105477632352906_1460298501366743040_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&oh=b0a739b02d8a246fc95f1e970cfc36a6&oe=5C204765 https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43155456_10105477632298016_7869971324410527744_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&oh=5af1081228d58fd45627d8fca5545f8c&oe=5C49ED99 Going out for a test fire in a few weeks then off to Cerakote in H265 FDE. Lots of KAC DNA in this gun, CMMG upper and barrel. The only Aero parts in it are the lower and the pins. |
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Posted: 10/15/2018 12:45:31 PM EDT
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Finally finished my M5 lower out: https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43120247_10105477632352906_1460298501366743040_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&oh=b0a739b02d8a246fc95f1e970cfc36a6&oe=5C204765 https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43155456_10105477632298016_7869971324410527744_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&oh=5af1081228d58fd45627d8fca5545f8c&oe=5C49ED99 Going out for a test fire in a few weeks then off to Cerakote in H265 FDE. Lots of KAC DNA in this gun, CMMG upper and barrel. The only Aero parts in it are the lower and the pins. |
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Posted: 10/15/2018 1:54:50 PM EDT
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Finally finished my M5 lower out: https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43120247_10105477632352906_1460298501366743040_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&oh=b0a739b02d8a246fc95f1e970cfc36a6&oe=5C204765 https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43155456_10105477632298016_7869971324410527744_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&oh=5af1081228d58fd45627d8fca5545f8c&oe=5C49ED99 Going out for a test fire in a few weeks then off to Cerakote in H265 FDE. Lots of KAC DNA in this gun, CMMG upper and barrel. The only Aero parts in it are the lower and the pins. |
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Posted: 10/15/2018 6:16:35 PM EDT
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Thanks guys - it's 9lbs, 2oz unloaded.
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Posted: 10/15/2018 8:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes me want to build a 16", nice clean build man. |
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Posted: 10/18/2018 2:08:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:52:25 PM EDT
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We really need a way to "like" pictures/posts on here like you can on other forums.
Aero stuff is on sale at brownells again. Code there for 10 bucks off 75 with free shipping too. Got a M5 lower headed my way for 90 bucks. Not thrilled about MD's horseshit 50-dollar transfer fees but whatever. Hopefully the BHO functions better on the Aero than it has on my MATEN. It would barely catch the bolt at all, and that was only after I'd DRASTICALLY filed down the bottom tab on it so it would go in far enough to allow the holding portion to swing up high enough to catch it. And even then simple pressure from the bolt or the slightest movement of the rifle would cause it to drop and allow the bolt to sail into battery. That setup has been one disappointment after another. Rainier barrel is accurate AF though.
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Posted: 10/26/2018 12:02:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2018 5:33:48 AM EDT
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I like where you going with this !!
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Posted: 10/26/2018 5:26:06 PM EDT
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Noticed these the other day. Aero Precision has released the M5 ATLAS S-ONE M-LOK Handguard and the M5 ATLAS S-ONE KeyMod Handguard. Both are listed in 12” and 15” lengths.
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