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Posted: 3/24/2006 10:28:18 AM EDT
Do these really attach w/o any washers or threadlocker?
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:35:31 AM EDT
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:02:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By whoanelly:
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.



Correct. They self tighten as you shoot.

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:05:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZBM2:

Originally Posted By whoanelly:
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.



Correct. They self tighten as you shoot.




Has research proven this?
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:37:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 11:48:54 AM EDT by Victor]
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:54:25 AM EDT
Vic: Does this apply to the 308 AR-10 Vortex as well (or all Vortex's for that matter)?

Mark: I believe torquing it to 87 in-lb would work. I can't believe you missed an opportunity to use 87 legitimately!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:00:27 PM EDT
I like the ring they make when you shoot them.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:01:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:02:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
I like the ring they make when you shoot them.



Especially when you combine it with the SPROING!!!! of the buffer spring.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 1:54:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By ZBM2:

Originally Posted By whoanelly:
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.



Correct. They self tighten as you shoot.




Has research proven this?



Yes.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:43:37 PM EDT
They're pretty when the bloom too!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:48:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
They're pretty when the bloom too!



It took you awhile, but I knew it was coming...
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:05:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:15:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 6:16:40 PM EDT by theshootersden]

Originally Posted By new-arguy:
Mark, should they be banned? If so, the 5.56 version or the .308 version. Let me guess... BOTH!?





He got you there Mark...
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:19:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By new-arguy:
Mark, should they be banned? If so, the 5.56 version or the .308 version. Let me guess... BOTH!?



I'm sure that Mark was under the impression that BOTH WERE ALREADY BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE otherwise he would have addressed that issue.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:21:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:29:04 PM EDT
I belive it was a previous version of the vortex that had the 'bossoming' problem. The current ones are the best FH on the market, and are made out of MUCH tougher steel than a phantom
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:42:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:51:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By ZBM2:

Originally Posted By whoanelly:
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.



Correct. They self tighten as you shoot.




Has research proven this?





Yep.

None of mine have fallen off.

...Yet.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:56:02 PM EDT
I broke 4 or 5 different drill bits when perm attaching mine...
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:59:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 7:00:08 PM EDT by mongo001]

Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
I broke 4 or 5 different drill bits when perm attaching mine...



That's because they are hardened. I've found it much easier to mill the hole.........................only need one 1/8" end mill.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:12:25 PM EDT
unfortunately I only have a drill press...
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:15:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 7:19:00 PM EDT by mongo001]

Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
unfortunately I only have a drill press...



A carbide end mill in a drill press would work. Chuck it up and go to town.

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 8:22:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By ZBM2:

Originally Posted By whoanelly:
Yep. I just hand-tightened mine.



Correct. They self tighten as you shoot.




Has research proven this?


Yes. I intalled it with only hand pressure and a couple thousand rounds later I decided to get rid of the tuning fork. It required more effort to remove the vortex than I used to properly index the phantom with the crush washer.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:02:08 AM EDT
They should BAN drill presses and MILLS FROM CIVILIAN USE!!

It's clearly intent!
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:20:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
They should BAN drill presses and MILLS FROM CIVILIAN USE!!

It's clearly intent!


Bah! Who needs that stuff when you've got a Dremel?
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 1:18:29 PM EDT
markm- So,,,, tell us what else you want banned. Im dieing to here this! Since i own both a press and mill. And i have NEVER even thought of screwing with a rifle.

How about just inforcing the LAW. Not making new, that make NO SENCE??
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 2:58:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-Doctor:
markm- So,,,, tell us what else you want banned. Im dieing to here this! Since i own both a press and mill. And i have NEVER even thought of screwing with a rifle.

How about just inforcing the LAW. Not making new, that make NO SENCE??



silly newbie.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 4:05:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-Doctor:
markm- So,,,, tell us what else you want banned. Im dieing to here this! Since i own both a press and mill. And i have NEVER even thought of screwing with a rifle.

How about just inforcing the LAW. Not making new, that make NO SENCE??





Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:18:31 PM EDT
How many threads are required for a proper/safe attachment (threads that actually contact the flash suppressor threads)?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 2:08:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
How many threads are required for a proper/safe attachment (threads that actually contact the flash suppressor threads)?



At least 87.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 3:56:31 PM EDT
The Vortex doesn't have 87 full threads
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 4:45:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
The Vortex doesn't have 87 full threads

Yep, it only has 1.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 4:28:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 4:28:41 AM EDT by markm]

Originally Posted By metroplex:
The Vortex doesn't have 87 full threads



That's why it blooms like a shotgun in a Tom & Jerry cartoon!
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