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Posted: 3/23/2006 2:56:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/23/2006 2:57:46 AM EDT by Geohans]
Anyone? Thanks.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 2:58:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/23/2006 2:58:40 AM EDT by Lumpy196]
Gas blocks and barrels can get really freakin' hot, which sucks when they come in contact with you.

Some people favor their verticle grip forward and need the room to effectively mount and manipulate a light with a pressure cap.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 3:42:52 AM EDT
Lumpy thanks, I edited my post while you were replying. I am weighing the advantages vs disadvantages of the extra metal out toward the muzzle-- extra protection vs weight/handling. Love to see a pic of an 18in barrel with a 9 inch forend; I am planning to remove the 13.2 on my 18in Noveske and replace it with a 9in, saving about 4 ounces out near the muzzle. My current setup works great from a static setup, but feels muzzle heavy when handling. Talk me out of it!
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 4:31:50 AM EDT
I'm supposed to be getting my 18" 6.8 barrel and 9" DD rail either today or tomorrow. If you haven't gotten pics by the then I'll try and get some pics up this weekend.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 5:45:29 AM EDT
Please post a pic of that interesting sounding setup in any case! Barrel make?
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 7:07:21 AM EDT
I'm going with a White oak 18" stainless 6.8 barrel (going to coat OD green) the DD forend, MSTN QC Brake, and a PRI flip front site on a flattop upper. ARMS 40L backups sight, Larue SPR scope mount w/ a temporary scope for now.

Link Posted: 3/23/2006 10:39:47 AM EDT
98, barrel contour? Still hoping for pics, anyone with 18in barrel and 9in forend?
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:36:48 AM EDT
It is the top one in this Pic
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:15:17 PM EDT
Thanks 98. Anyone with apic of an 18in barrel w/ 9in forend?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:19:39 PM EDT
Finally got the forend today.

Here is a link to my post http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=275324
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:54:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 12:59:15 PM EDT by Onslaught]

Originally Posted By Geohans:
Lumpy thanks, I edited my post while you were replying. I am weighing the advantages vs disadvantages of the extra metal out toward the muzzle-- extra protection vs weight/handling. Love to see a pic of an 18in barrel with a 9 inch forend; I am planning to remove the 13.2 on my 18in Noveske and replace it with a 9in, saving about 4 ounces out near the muzzle. My current setup works great from a static setup, but feels muzzle heavy when handling. Talk me out of it!



Replace the 13.2 with a DD 12.0 instead... You'll still shave of 4.6 ounces and protect yourself from the heat at the same time.

I don't mean insult on anyones very nice looking build, but I don't like the look of a 9" forend and 9" of barrel sticking out. It looks "wrong" in the same way that a 16" barrel with carbine gas system looks "wrong".

I also don't think the "weight savings" arguement holds water in these situations. If you go with medium-heavy barrels, longer barrels, etc. then all of a sudden think "light weight" for one item, you're not really doing yourself justice with the build, and probably didn't quite work out the best configuration for your needs.

Also, if your issue is balance rather than overall weight (as you mentioned it was) then you could replace your current stock with a MagPul PRS. More weight in the rear would compensate for the weight in the front. You didn't say what stock you currently run, so I just chose the heaviest one.

Probably the most common thing I have seen ARFCOM members do to lighten up their 18" stainless build was to switch it out with a 16" stainless match barrel
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:13:35 AM EDT
Thanks Onslaught, excellent info/advice.

Indeed, there is a balance issue. I have a complete Noveske rifle which shoots like a dream, but is muzzle heavy in comparison to 1911builder's execellent Shillen 18in with a similar barrel profile. Looks are secondary, of course. I am still on the fence. The rifle is not intended for clearing rooms, but having a little snappier handling would be comforting.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:47:29 AM EDT
While not EXACTLY what you're looking for, this might be close:



It is a 16" Pac-Nor / ADCO barrel, with a mid-length gas system and a KAC mid-length FF RAS - the RAS is closer to 10 inches in length, rather than the 9 inches most (LaRue, Daniel Defense, etc) offer as a mid-length system.

Perhaps it will give you a visual baseline, if nothing else.

Take care,
Clint
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 8:06:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By havoc:
While not EXACTLY what you're looking for, this might be close:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/clintl/SPR.jpg

It is a 16" Pac-Nor / ADCO barrel, with a mid-length gas system and a KAC mid-length FF RAS - the RAS is closer to 10 inches in length, rather than the 9 inches most (LaRue, Daniel Defense, etc) offer as a mid-length system.

Perhaps it will give you a visual baseline, if nothing else.

Take care,
Clint


It's a DARN shame Daniel Defense doesn't make the 10.0 anymore!
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 8:31:21 AM EDT
Havoc, yes 10 inches would be perfect. If it only were available! (funny, my wife once said something similar.)

Can one get ahold of a 10 in FF RAS?? It covers the gas block, but nothing extraneous.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 4:45:11 PM EDT
Troy makes a 10" ff rail.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:02:32 PM EDT
Chop down a LaRue 12.0
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