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Posted: 2/7/2006 7:45:12 PM EDT
[#1]
That's hot.
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Posted: 2/7/2006 9:31:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Any ideas on the cost of barrel versions as of yet? This is simply awesome looking and appears to be a great option for those that want to use their own barrels or have a barrel maker preference. |
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Posted: 2/7/2006 9:37:54 PM EDT
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Price on the rifle length versions, and availability timeframe?
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Posted: 2/7/2006 9:44:01 PM EDT
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And to think that I almost went this year. But I'm too busy this week. |
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Posted: 2/7/2006 9:47:46 PM EDT
[#5]
will it come in 2 versions ? : for barrels with and without M4 feed ramps ? Thanks and again great product !! |
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Posted: 2/7/2006 11:10:58 PM EDT
[#6]
The price looks great. I had even been thinking of getting an MRP, but looks like waiting was the right thing to do. 
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Posted: 2/8/2006 1:26:48 AM EDT
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The more I look at it, the more interested I get...
I wish I had more money...  - BG |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 3:15:17 AM EDT
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Most people don't use a forward assist on a pistol caliber carbine. I can think of a lot of applications where forcing a round into a chamber where it doesn't want to go might not be a good idea. In those applications, no real point in having it on the rifle. Pretty neat, bigbore. 
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Posted: 2/8/2006 4:06:56 AM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 2/8/2006 4:22:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Very nice indeed. I wonder if you can get a piston under that rail
 Either way I would be in for one. Nice Job guys! T  |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 5:49:56 AM EDT
[#11]
It looks as though the gas tube doesn't thread through the barrel nut. If so, is there a "quick change barrel" feature there by just having different barrels with the proprietary barrel nut already installed?
Stephen |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 6:11:35 AM EDT
[#12]
I noticed this too and I was also wondering if the VIS barrel nut would come loose easier than other barrel nuts since the gas tube doesn't act as stop to keep the barrel nut from turning. |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 6:28:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Thats not a concern. I can assure you a gas tube does nothing to keep a properly installed barrel nut tight. |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 6:56:39 AM EDT
[#14]
 Me likey! 
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Posted: 2/8/2006 7:55:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Sorry to create another thread hijack but where did you get a 9mm suppressor with a Gemtech HALO mount? That is sweet!
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Posted: 2/8/2006 7:56:39 AM EDT
[#16]
Shizzle my fazizle
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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:04:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Nice catch. That is a one of a kind customized LID mount. |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:21:01 AM EDT
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This may be a dumb question, but will you need to check headspace every time you attach a barrel to this system?
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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:28:55 AM EDT
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Not on a system where the bolt locks right into the barrel extension, like any other AR. |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:30:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Forgive my ignorance, but does this system offer any benefit over other free float or MRP systems?
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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:32:56 AM EDT
[#21]
It uses standard barrels and not propriety barrels at a premium price.  Hey Steve, what is the ID of the rail? I'm wondering if I can fit my Trident inside that baby It looks great and I was going to do a 9mm build with a 5in TROS barrel and if I do it on one of these, I won't have just dedicated short 9mm upper (since the suppressor will have to be on the barrel to use in the 9mm setup since the 5inch barrel will be well hidden inside the rail), but I can swap the 9mm setup out and do any other barrel I want all at the range. 
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Posted: 2/8/2006 9:59:31 AM EDT
[#22]
Interesting. Thanks, C_J. I thought it was necessary to check headspacing on an AR periodically? |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 12:18:12 PM EDT
[#23]
Factoring barrel costs, the VIS upper is what--2/3 the price of an MRP?
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Posted: 2/8/2006 12:56:15 PM EDT
[#24]
that is a nice setup. I think that upper would match my Sun Devil lower perfectly. With the cost of barrels i think a completed upper would come close to a $1000. still less than an MRP
That's still a lot for me. But very nice though! |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 12:57:53 PM EDT
[#25]
I don't think you can compare the VIS to the MRP as the VIS lacks the quick change barrel ability. Nonetheless, it is a very neat monolithic platform and I'm looking forward to seeing what else is offered (piston?). |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 1:16:07 PM EDT
[#26]
If you already have an upper with a good barrel, you can use your current barrel. I have a SBR project I want to be my first VIS build. When I get one to play with, I'll just use my current barrel. |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 1:39:40 PM EDT
[#27]
+1
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Posted: 2/8/2006 2:20:22 PM EDT
[#28]
left handed version???
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Posted: 2/8/2006 2:46:10 PM EDT
[#29]
I may have heard mention of a LH version... |
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Posted: 2/8/2006 10:32:38 PM EDT
[#30]
Plus the MRP is made out of a forging while the VIS is made out of an extrusion. |
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Posted: 2/9/2006 6:20:58 AM EDT
[#31]
Now I have to say this look promising.
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Posted: 2/9/2006 9:35:11 AM EDT
[#32]
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Posted: 2/9/2006 10:43:09 AM EDT
[#33]
Will we have weights anytime soon? Want it to be less than the MRP.
Thanks.....Chad |
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Posted: 2/9/2006 10:54:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/9/2006 5:35:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Questions about dimensions and weights and all of that.
There will be some small changes made to the VIS from what the pre-production units are now; there has already been one small improvement made. Vltor does not really want to post any figures that may just end up changing in the next week or so... this is about integrity and making sure the information out there is solid and accurate -- now one wants to have the old "I was told this, but read something else somewhere" thing going on. With that in mind, hang in there... the system will be made final and in full production in very short order! |
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Posted: 2/9/2006 6:29:09 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not, but will it work w/ barrels that don't have M4 feed ramps? I currently have a RRA 9mm upper, and would be interested in using this system but only if it'll work w/ my current bbl.
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Posted: 2/9/2006 6:54:20 PM EDT
[#37]
If you install a barrel without an M4 barrel extension, in an upper with m4 feed ramps - it will work just fine for most folks, but it is not the ideal configuration...... I beleieve the decision to, or not to have the M4 feed ramps will be more of a marketing decision. There are many who really think they need the ramps, so the demand drives the supply. |
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Posted: 2/9/2006 7:10:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Thanks for the quick reply. It sounds like this might be a good option to update my RRA 9mm. |
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Posted: 2/9/2006 7:43:20 PM EDT
[#39]
I dont recommend/encourage the M4 upper w/rifle extension, but with a 9MM, I can promise you it will not matter.
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Posted: 2/9/2006 9:17:09 PM EDT
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If you take a look at an upper that has seen use with some well worn mags and look at all the little dings in the aluminum upper below the extension, it seems to suggest M4 ramps should be std.
I think it makes sense, and if the info on the M4 arctic testing is true; it has proven itself to be sound if rarely needed. |
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Posted: 2/10/2006 3:56:26 AM EDT
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Any plans for T-markings?
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Posted: 2/10/2006 4:06:13 AM EDT
[#42]
Absolutely correct. On the 2 way range, with a dirty firearm, and old magazines in the arctic I would want the M4 extension/ramps. Tommy, who shoots his clean rifle, with new magazines at paper plates once a month will "probably" never have a bullet tip contact anything but the barrel extension. The more I think about it, the more I would like to see the VIS offered with and without the M4 ramps. With the benefit of being able to use your existing barrels, I would think it would make sense to offer a version for 99% of the barrels being produced today, and those which are already in use in who knows how many RRAs, Bushmasters, Armalites, etc.. |
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Posted: 2/10/2006 4:35:50 AM EDT
[#43]
Tag
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Posted: 2/10/2006 5:21:55 AM EDT
[#44]
M4 Feed Ramps...
The current thought is that the VIS will be offered both with and without ramps... as Vltor works with the dealers that will be handling the VIS, this will most likely be and option that is left up to the dealer when he or she makes an order. Demand will no doubt determine which becomes the standard, but for the immediate future plan on being able to find the VIS both with and without M4 ramps. |
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Posted: 2/10/2006 5:38:47 AM EDT
[#45]
Will the FSB need to be removed to install the proprietary barrel nut?
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Posted: 2/10/2006 3:36:28 PM EDT
[#46]
yes... you will have to remove the FSB/GB to change out the nut. |
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Posted: 2/10/2006 4:18:55 PM EDT
[#47]
So how quick could you change the barrels? Is this gonna be an option in the monolithic field or just another option for uppers/rails?
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Posted: 2/10/2006 5:11:51 PM EDT
[#48]
What are the length of the rails for the three different versions?
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Posted: 2/10/2006 6:26:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Oh great another thing I just have to have.... sheesh I could already spend 500K and not be caught up.
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Posted: 2/10/2006 7:51:25 PM EDT
[#50]
I LIKE IT!
Good work Vltor.
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