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Posted: 1/28/2006 8:36:27 AM EDT
I am going to buy an M4 upper within the next week and have found one I like at BravoCompanyUSA.com. But as I look at their website, at the M4's, I notice that three of the four different brands are unavaliable. This leaves me wondering if the company is not doing so well or if they are just a high volume business. Does anyone have any history with the company? I just dont want to risk my $600 with someone I dont know much about.
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I don't believe Bravo Company is in any financial trouble. He has just begun producing his own AS/M4 line....
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Paul is doing better than ever. They have come out with their own upper line that kicks the crap out all others. This is most likely why he has scaled back other upper lines (as they are not as good IMHO). As a BCM dealer, I will also be stocking less LMT & Stag uppers as these are better for less coin! C4 www.GRTactical.com |
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I have done business with Bravo Co. many times for about almost a year now and they are great and on the top of my list.
They have been here a long time and have excellent feedback from members here. You could check the Equipment Exchange feedback section for yourself if you want to. Waiting for their upper/ barrel is not so bad because you also have to wait for other companies like for example RRA. Since I just bought an action block and other tools from Bravo, I'm just going to wait for their barrels and make my own upper. |
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The 16" middy uppers are not far off (think they are getting chromed now). C4 |
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16" and 14.5" M4's are next in line after these middy uppers. C4 |
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I have two Bravo Company 14.5 and 3 Bravo Company 16" in stock. $399 but you need to call me to order. I have not added them to the website yet.
I will also be down sizing inventory of other uppers as Paul's are made from the best components available. Denny 816 809 9452 |
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Yes I am. Shoot me an e-mail if you want a 16" middy. [email protected] C4 |
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"Does anyone have any history with the company?"
Yeah I've called them 3 times. They are in my same 262 area code so apparently they are within spitting distance of my house. Never a returned call and never a person to answer the phone in business hours. Apparently the company is like a big vending machine that dumps parts into a box and affixes a UPS label for shipping. Just my take. It would be nice to have someone local for fast shipping and esspecially if I could go pick something up. |
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Paul is a one man show and basically runs two companies at once. Have you tried E-mail or IM? I have no problems getting Paul. C4 |
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I have bought from Paul 2-3 three times and Paul will go out of his way to help you out. I would a no problem buying from him again.
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"Paul is a one man show and basically runs two companies at once. Have you tried E-mail or IM? I have no problems getting Paul."
No my thought was when you list a phone number and your answering machine answers Bravo Company and promises a returned call for messages with numbers dropped off that you would get a call. |
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What great news! |
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Great ..I know what that means.....! |
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Well as they say "shit happens" and am sure Paul didn't do it on purpose. C4 |
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The reason he's out of stock is because he sells high quality uppers for a fair price. Hence they move very quickly...quicker than he can have them manufactured. With the demand so high Paul could easily charge more but he's an AR guy just like us and he knows what it's like to buy and build so he wants to offer the highest quality parts at the most affordable prices! His BCM uppers reflect this; very high quality at an affordable price! Sounds like a place I want to do business with! |
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My experience with BC was very good. Callbacks haven't been a problem. Paul is good peeps, place the order.
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From a guy that dont know who I am, Paul has gone out of his way to help me out when I needed things. Bravo Co for life!
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We show 4 different M4 uppers on our website. LMT - which is in stock CMT/Stag - we ran out last week and should have more this week MOS - a M4 test concept we spearheaded about 18 months ago (has been replaced by BCM - a couple more features, complete control over quality, same pricing). We really should delete that page on the next website update. BCM - Made by BCo. MFG - Demand simply exceeds supply. We have 16" Mids and 16" M4s at chrome right now. We hope to get them to us in early Feb. Then we will proof (HPT), mag particle (MPI), phosphate, install gas ports, install FSB, assemble, and test fire. It is our plan to be again shipping to distributers in late Feb or early March. Thanks, Paul BCo. |
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Sorry about that Green0. We only have one incoming phone line, and if it is busy you will end up in the voice mail service. And our phone line is busy most of the day. It is almost glued to my ear . As a note: our voice mail does not promise a return phone call. It simply states that we are sorry not to be able to take the call and we can also be contacted through our website or via email. I think our voice mail service is set up on "announce" (or at least it should be). We are a small shop (trying to do big things), but we do only have one phone line. Most phone orders/questions involve technical questions. It is for that reason, I am apprehensive about letting others answer the phone. I answer all the technical questions personally. So when calling, I would rather you received no answer than the wrong answer. |
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I bought an LMT M4 upper, a lower parts kit, and some tools from Paul. Lots of email communication, and very quick responses. He even responded to my emails at 9 in the evening, and I'm in Souther California! I've had excellent service from Bravo Company and would not hesitate to buy from him again.
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See I bought a barrel from grant which was packaged in a Bravo Company box. The barrel says MOS on it, and I thought "what a bunch of bullshit, I didnt want a Model One Sales barrel." But they were your own barrels? Should I be worried that you say the new line you have complete control over quality? This was a 16 inch 1/7 twist M4 profile MP tested barrel. Sorry for all the questions, but will you or Grant be selling just the barrels again? |
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We created and spearheaded the MOS program to our specs. You should not be worried at all. It is a really good barrel.
We brought the entire project in house for BCM so we could add 100% HPT and 100% MPI, get the certs on 11595 steel, M4 ramps on all profiles, parked under FSB, F-FSB, Milspec Taper Pins for FSB, Tubular rivets for sling swivels, etc. At some point BCM will offer barrels alone, but the first priority is to get complete uppers ready to ship. If we have them then Grant (G&R Tactical) will also have them. Also currently; Denny (Dennys Guns) and MI (Midwest Industries) |
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I'm really excited for the middys to be done! From all the opinion I've read here about Bravo Co. and the man at the helm I think I'm in for a real treat with that upper.
Go Middys! |
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This is rare in today's world... Thanks! |
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I am sure that many on here will profess as to my rather strong disdain towards some vendors and dealers that are little more than plumbers... they screw together whatever assorted parts they can get at a bargain, pose the rifle with some ubber tactical HSLD gear they borrowed and snap picture after picture... but they have little to no knowledge of what they are really doing, how the rifle works, advanced firearm concepts or real gunsmithing -- I shall hold my tongue as to names however.
That said, I can assure you that there are a few names on here that stand out and are wrangled by guys that really do know what they are doing... guys that are real shooters and Bravo Company is one of the name at the top of this list. |
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I've only talked to Paul once but it was a pleasure to deal with him. I will have one of his uppers on my list hopefully soon.
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Paul- I feel your pain. I'm in almost the same situation except that I have not quit my day job yet. My AR barrels business is ramping up heavily as are the call volumes. I'm getting nasty stares from my boss everytime my cell phone rings. I could not trust someone else to answer tech questions either. Note to self: change message on voicemail to make customers send me emails and NOT to expect a return call! |
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